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    Thanks to nattydisaster and PES for the opportunity.

    I'll be logging the new PES anabolic. Not much known right now, other than it will not lower T, and should be taken with food.

    Took my first 3 periworkout last night, feel super thirsty and a little pumped today... Getting to the meat of my workouts this week, I'm very excited.

    Starting stats (-30lbs off my heaviest, lost quite a bit of strength, was at 4/5/6 status)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheRoadTo View Post
    Thanks to nattydisaster and PES for the opportunity.

    I'll be logging the new PES anabolic. Not much known right now, other than it will not lower T, and should be taken with food.

    Took my first 3 periworkout last night, feel super thirsty and a little pumped today... Getting to the meat of my workouts this week, I'm very excited.

    Starting stats (-30lbs off my heaviest, lost quite a bit of strength, was at 4/5/6 status)

    6.3.5" / 79" wingspan / 254 lbs / ~15% bf

    Bench 315x3 last workout
    Dead 505 cluster of 4 last workout
    Squat 425 for 5 last workout
    Wow I hope I can get my Deads and Squat that high, fantastic job in your progress so far and I I'll be watching.
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    I saw this in the other thread


    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheRoadTo View Post
    Jesus dude, they're not lying about the increased thirst. I popped 3 last night periworkout and ate about 2 pounds of delicious cheeseburgers, and when I woke up my tongue was sticking to the roof of my mouth. It's probably psychosomatic at this point, but I feel slightly pumped in my back/bis. I can already tell this is more potent than any natty supp I've taken as a GDA (glycobol, anabolic pump, berberine stacked with insopro).

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    In for the show. Very interested in what this will wind up being.
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    My first training session will be today, well fed, well rested, and well supped. I have taken the AnaBeta-01 before bed each of the past 2 nights without any issues at all - I took a benadryl as well last night and actually woke up late for work. Typically any psychological effects are very apparent on me, like the head rush from peptides or the euphoria from sulbutiamine, so I am fairly certain that there are no sides on sleep.

    Maybe feeling slightly aggressive today, but could just be pent up energy from not doing my normal Monday workout.
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    Back from training:

    warmed up shoulders

    DB BENCH
    100sx5 (warmup)
    130sx6
    130sx3 (Big negative hold)
    120sx10
    100sx13

    Incline Hammer Strength, Ultra wide

    15 @ 275 (2 sets)

    Thick Bar Military Presses, bounced at bottom

    135x5
    185x5
    235x3
    215x5

    Machine lateral raise

    2 sets to failure @ 100lb (whole stack)


    Hammer strength shrugs
    20 @ 8 plates (warmup)
    12 @ 12 plates
    10 @ 12 plates
    8 @ 12 plates (no straps, for grip work)

    Used the barrel of rice for some grip work

    Abs:

    Decline situp + 75lb DB
    set of 8
    set of 7, dropped db and did a few more

    Roman chair DB leg raise +45lb DB
    Set of 7
    Set of 7, dropped db and did a few more

    Felt real good so I banged out a few pullups, db cleans @85, 1 arm db presses @85, and left. Really hoping the above numbers come up next week, my best DB set was 140x6 on Superdrol.

    Weighed in at 256 (+2lbs, not statistically significant). Really felt like I had a lot of endurance, though I am purposely upping carbs for this long after being on carb cycling with intermittent fasting. Because I fast for 14-16 hours a day NOT A SINGLE MEAL ON THIS LOG WILL BE TAKEN WITHOUT ANABETA...assuming all goes well. I also popped some L-Carnitine-L-Tartrate just in case this has any activities on the androgen receptor.

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    Sounding good OTRT!

    Bring it on!

    Sounds like you also experienced some of the fast acting endurance and performance properties others have reported.

    Whats on the agenda for Thursday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Sounding good OTRT!

    Bring it on!

    Sounds like you also experienced some of the fast acting endurance and performance properties others have reported.

    Whats on the agenda for Thursday?
    Been training instinctively, just going to feel it out. I like to deadlift on Friday and take weekends off, but I'm thinking I hit back hard and heavy tomorrow, and then clean up anything not hit this week on friday

    brb popping my last 2 for the day and eating huge


    Do you think compressing all 4 doses into an 8 hour window will have a negative effect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheRoadTo View Post
    Been training instinctively, just going to feel it out. I like to deadlift on Friday and take weekends off, but I'm thinking I hit back hard and heavy tomorrow, and then clean up anything not hit this week on friday

    brb popping my last 2 for the day and eating huge


    Do you think compressing all 4 doses into an 8 hour window will have a negative effect?
    Personally, no. I am sure you know your body well enough. Since you are on unique eating schedule I think what you have planned will be good to go.

    The main reason I recommended to not take 2 at once is some users are very sensitive to the muscle glycogen loading effects, and get super tired lol.

    I think Andrew felt that the first day, and I know SamBoz was feeling it (he was an original tester) when he would take more than 1.
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    Right now I am just trying to eat continuously for those 8 hours and pop an AnaBeta right before each mini feeding (still at least 500kcal) so that it's a little spread out. As an example:

    pop 1

    doublemeat sub + shake

    pop 1
    cereal + shake + bcaas

    <workout>

    pop 1
    mega shake +ice cream treat

    pop 1
    4 blueberry pancakes + hamsteak + 7 eggs
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    Perfect. How soon is your workout after your second meal?

    Ive noticed when taken an hour preworkout, the pump effects are very apparent, especially in smaller muscle groups and higher rep ranges. Then when I take another with my postworkout meal or shake, the glycogen loading is very targeted to the worked muscles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Perfect. How soon is your workout after your second meal?

    Ive noticed when taken an hour preworkout, the pump effects are very apparent, especially in smaller muscle groups and higher rep ranges. Then when I take another with my postworkout meal or shake, the glycogen loading is very targeted to the worked muscles.
    I generally eat carb heavy 45 minutes to an hour before I go, then protein and bcaa immediately before, with an hour carbless window post workout.

    Protocol based on:


    http://jap.physiology.org/content/88/2/386.short

    http://www.ergo-log.com/wheycreatineglucose.html

    http://www.pbnation.com/out.php?l=ht...utrition_myths
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    This product sounds like an insulin mimicker.
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    Does insulin bring about the thermal aspects spoken of by testers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    This product sounds like an insulin mimicker.
    That's sort of a general statement - IF that's all it is, I can already tell you it seems to be better constructed than anabolic pump, yellow gold, insopro (NA-R-ALA) and glycobol. It might be that it acts on some pathway upstream of GLUT4 translocation in muscle - we don't really know. There are lots of pathways that switch that stuff on :::goes to find the research for Anator P70:::


    Trust me, I'm the biggest skeptic in the world, and I know you are too. I don't feel that any other insulin mimicker has made a big difference in my training. The only supplements I can ever say really outweighed the quality of my diet and training are epistane and superdrol. It's possible I won't respond to this, either. But, I think you'll agree that PES thusfar has an excellent track record for releasing things that work, and eschewing what doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheRoadTo View Post
    I generally eat carb heavy 45 minutes to an hour before I go, then protein and bcaa immediately before, with an hour carbless window post workout.

    Protocol based on:


    http://jap.physiology.org/content/88/2/386.short

    http://www.ergo-log.com/wheycreatineglucose.html

    http://www.pbnation.com/out.php?l=ht...utrition_myths
    Funny...I base my workout and diets/supplementation timing and techniques off of studies too. I call it my overly scientific workout and diet plan


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    Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    This product sounds like an insulin mimicker.
    Some products on the market act directly as insulin mimickers. Other things in the world, like anabolics, have increased muscle glycogen loading as an additional effect to them

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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Funny...I base my workout and diets/supplementation timing and techniques off of studies too. I call it my overly scientific workout and diet plan




    Get in the loop!




    Some products on the market act directly as insulin mimickers. Other things in the world, like anabolics, have increased muscle glycogen loading as an additional effect to them

    More on this shortly...
    Love anabolic compounds that do this!

    Can't wait to hear more on this though.... Also I've read a few times about the synergy behind Anavar and creatine. Do you know if this is from glycogen shuttling effects or something diff?

    Also have you required any of these testers to cease creatine usage? Have any played with some creatine/preworkout nutrition/shake with AnaBeta01? I wouldnt doubt there would be some pretty intense effects from proper timing/dosing pre workout....

    Would love to see if this worked as well as some combos I used with pslin while beta testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    Love anabolic compounds that do this!

    Can't wait to hear more on this though.... Also I've read a few times about the synergy behind Anavar and creatine. Do you know if this is from glycogen shuttling effects or something diff?

    Also have you required any of these testers to cease creatine usage? Have any played with some creatine/preworkout nutrition/shake with AnaBeta01? I wouldnt doubt there would be some pretty intense effects from proper timing/dosing pre workout....

    Would love to see if this worked as well as some combos I used with pslin while beta testing.
    Im pretty sure creatine couples glucose transport. Since an anabolic compounds increases glucose transport, it would make sense there was synergy between creatine and anavar.

    All testers have been asked to stop all products except essentials. Maybe someone has some creatine mono laying around if they want to test your theory!
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    No way I'm stopping creatine bro, I've been taking creatine for 5 years continuously and I suspect most people who would buy this would stay on it as well. This is real world #$&% right here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheRoadTo View Post
    No way I'm stopping creatine bro, I've been taking creatine for 5 years continuously and I suspect most people who would buy this would stay on it as well. This is real world #$&% right here.
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    Id still give this a try....

    Process starts 1-2 hours pre workout to allow digestion of following..

    2-3g creatine mono (5g is the max. Less is necessary if it works as expected)

    Put the creatine in to some warm microwaved water to dissolve it. Take the AnaBeta01 with this water.


    15 min later make up a pre workout shake consisting of:

    40g whey protein
    60g blended whole rolled oats (1 cup)(do it first while dry) yes this is a **** ton but considering the hunger and hypoglycemia some have experienced the body should handle this, no problem
    5g leucine
    1/4 tsp salt
    1-2 cups milk
    1 banana

    And then eat another 40g carbs (one serving) from whole wheat spaghetti (or other sources like malto, cheerios, etc, a long as its totaling 100-120g of carbs)

    1- 1.5hours later hit the gym (depending on digestion)



    Also this can be tried in conjuntion with above...

    Take another pill 15 min before the gym(right before I leave for the gym usually)
    Drink a large gatorade while at the gym, diluting it throughout....

    IF this is acting like a few other insulin mimicers, replacing your pancreas need to release insulin, then there won't be an insulin spike from this and you will still be able to enjoy the wide "anabolic window" of gh release post workout and a constant fuel source throughout the workout to blow the weights away...



    Anyone keen on trying this
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    Looks interesting, might try that w/ the p-slin I have.
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    OK, popped 1 with a 6" doublemeat sub

    waited an hour

    ate a pb sandwich, and experimentally threw the kitchen sink at this workout

    60mg 1,3 dimethylamylamine
    200mg caffeine
    400mg sulbutiamine
    7g glycerol
    1 scoop xtend
    22g whey
    another Anabeta-01
    12.5mg 6-bromo
    and 2.5mg cialis


    I had a workout so good, that my ears are ringing This has never happened before, ever. I have some guesses as to the method of action of this stuff...but damn. I am pretty susceptible to psychosomatic effects, but this is some pretty sick placebo!

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    515x4 (cluster)
    405x12 (kill me)

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    220 warmup
    300x5
    345 (stack with a 45 pinned on) - 9 (pin snapped in half, I bad a bad gym citizen ...will replace that)
    300 x12

    Motorcycle cable row (christian thibaudeau special, great for lat stretch)
    6 @ 90
    12 @ 80
    10 @ 80

    Bentover triceps extension
    200x22
    200x13
    200x9

    (Rest pause-ish...was gunshy about pinning to the stack again!)

    EZ bar curls
    125x8
    155x6 (some cheating, focus on negative)
    125x9

    Spider curls (I like the stretch)
    95x4
    75x 8
    75x6

    Then I went down the rack for standing db curls, 55s -> 45s ->35s, just because I was feeling and looking monstrous and I wanted to catch a pump; mission accomplished

    Weighed in at 255. Most vascular I've ever looked, as an aside.
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    Damn nice w.o. man.

    Tell me... Is vasodialation increased throughout the body with cialis or is it only directed to the penile region?
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    I find it increases pumps. That's an extremely low dose, though. I don't have any issues with performance, but I do enjoy the effects it has on the weekend. I have a naturally long refractive period (I tend to only want to have sex twice a day at the most). Idunno, I grabbed it "just in case" I had any problems on cycle or in PCT from superdrol, and I found some research suggesting it boosts T (also probably psychosomatic).

    /shrug, I'm "pump-resistant" but I find glycerol (hyperhydration) to be effective. Cialis at a low dose counteracts the vasoconstriction of 13dm and caffeine nicely. Way way better than AAKG. I will say that this workout felt WAY better with the anabeta than previous workouts on everything else i listed though.
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    Hmmm nice, something to look into I guess.
  

  
 

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