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    I refused to send the ones of me he requested back btw.
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    hahahahahaha, oh man. i think im in love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlawedGrunt View Post
    EasyEJL's statement is a little misleading... I asked to see a picture from his birthday... while he didnt send me a birthday picture... he did send me this with the following caption

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlawedGrunt View Post
    EasyEJL's statement is a little misleading... I asked to see a picture from his birthday... while he didnt send me a birthday picture... he did send me this with the following caption

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    I have always wanted to live Hedonism Bot's life....

    Hahaha thats fricken awesome. Is that from Futarama? I used to love that show, havent watched it in forever
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    Day 4 - Thursday 03/24/2011

    Workout:

    Nat and I were gonna do the 30 day shred again for some cardio but didnt have time after we got home from grocery shopping and dealing with the muts... sooo no go on a workout

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    Food:

    Bfast
    1 Large Yam
    3 Servings Breakfast Sausage
    Green and Red Peppers
    6 Eggs
    1 Tbsp Olive Oil

    (Dont worry this was cut in to 3 servings... frozen for the next two days haha... the whole thing was like 1600 cals)


    Lunch
    2 pieces of whole wheat bread
    10 slices turkey
    Lettuce
    1/4 Cup shredded cheese

    Toasted!

    Snack
    1 String Cheese
    1 Serving Almonds
    1 Beef Stick

    Dinner
    1.5 Serving Whole Wheat Spaghetti Noodles
    Spaghetti and ground beef sauce
    Salad w/ ranch

    Food Overview:
    Felt like I ate less today but I think I was actually a little over my calories because the Whole Wheat and spaghetti packed a punch with calories... kind of hard to measure though...

    The good news.... we love pasta in this house.... and if we are shopping for whole wheat noodles thats a progressive step to changing the way we eat!

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    Overview:

    Nothing much to talk about on overview today. Same old energy feelings... still cold... only thing to note is that Natalie is now up to 3 AT2 a day and I dosing same as before except with a SHIFT in the middle of the night


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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Yeah, they started a new season this last year, it was pretty good
    Im gonna have to check it out, one of my fave episodes still is from season 1, the one withe Slurm factory
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    Day 4 - Thursday 02/24/2011

    Changed up the dosing a little bit today. I took 2 AT2 and a caffeine in the morning, 1 AT2 and a caffeine in the afternoon, and a shift at night. Yeaaaaaaaaa buddy!!!!!

    Food:

    Bfast
    Whole wheat toast with natual peanut butter
    1 glass of OJ

    Lunch
    Whole wheat chicken salad sandwich
    Ice water

    Snack
    Low fat yogurt

    Dinner
    1.5 serving whole wheat spaghetti noodles
    Spaghetti & ground beef sauce
    Romaine & cucumber salad w/ french
    1 glass of 1% milk

    Overview:
    I felt great again with the extra dose of AT2. I HATE getting up in the morning...Troy can confirm this. He says it's like waking the dead... But every morning after taking the AT2 and caffeine I feel awesome and wide awake. Again, I was alert and focused at work and felt really good all day.

    Last night, I slept GREAT!! I don't think I woke up at all. No weird dreams...that I can remember. haha

    I feel a little guilty for not working out last night, but this weekend all I have is time!
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    Day 5 - Friday 03/25/2011

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    Food:

    Bfast
    1 Large Yam
    3 Servings Breakfast Sausage
    Green and Red Peppers
    6 Eggs
    1 Tbsp Olive Oil

    (Dont worry this was cut in to 3 servings... frozen for the next two days haha... the whole thing was like 1600 cals)


    Lunch
    Whole Wheat Sandwich Pocket
    Cucumber
    Pepper Turkey
    Pepperjack Cheese
    Lettuce
    Small Side Salad with Dressing

    Snack
    1 String Cheese
    1 Serving Almonds

    Dinner
    10oz Marinated Top Sirloin
    Grilled Green Pepper Stuffed with Brown Rice
    Roasted Aparagus



    Food Overview:
    Oh my... Dinner.... was.... fricken... TASTY! And its something Natalie just threw together.

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    Overview:

    Same ol Same ol! Nothings to talk about new!


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    Day 6 - Saturday 03/26/2011

    Workout:

    WARM UP
    -arm crosses (30 seconds)
    -windmills (30 seconds)
    -jumping jacks (30 seconds)
    -waist circles (30 seconds)
    -knee circles (30 seconds)
    -jumping jacks (30 seconds)

    CIRCUIT 1


    Strength = 3 minutes
    -pushups (30 seconds)
    -squat and press (1.5 minutes)
    -pushups (30 seconds)
    -squat and press (1.5 minutes)

    Cardio = 2 minutes
    -jumping jacks (30 seconds)
    -jump rope (30 seconds)
    -jumping jacks (30 seconds)
    -jump rope (30 seconds)

    Abs = 1 minutes
    -crunches (30 seconds)
    -reverse crunches (30 seconds)

    CIRCUIT 2


    Strength = 3 minutes
    -dumbell row (pull – 30 seconds)
    -static lunge w/ bicep curl (left – 1.5 minutes)
    -dumbell row (pull – 30 seconds)
    -static lunge w/ bicep curl (right – 1 .5 minutes)

    Cardio = 2 minutes
    -butt kicks (30 seconds)
    -punches (30 seconds)
    -butt kicks (30 seconds)
    -punches (30 seconds)

    Abs = 1 minute
    -crunches twist (1 minutes)

    CIRCUIT 3

    Strength = 3 minutes
    -chest flys (30 seconds)
    -anterior hand raises and side lunges (1.5 minutes)
    -chest flys (30 seconds)
    -anterior hand raises and side lunges (1.5 minutes)

    Cardio = 2 minutes
    -jumping jacks (30 seconds)
    -butt kicks (30 seconds)
    -punches (30 seconds)
    -jump rope (30 seconds

    Abs = 1 minutes
    -bicycle crunches (1 minute)

    STRETCHES


    Post Workout
    Took the dogs for a 35 minute walk

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    Food:

    Bfast
    1/2 Banana
    1 Serving Malt-O-Meal

    Lunch
    Turkey Sandwich

    Snack
    1 String Cheese
    1 Beef Stick

    Nat had Strawberries instead of cheese and beef stick

    Dinner
    1.5 Serving Whole Wheat Spaghetti Noodles
    Spaghetti and ground beef sauce
    Salad w/ ranch

    Late Night Snack
    Flawed - Cottage cheese mixed with a half scoop of protein
    Nat - 1 Servings Walnuts

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    Overview:

    Same old stuff to report for both of us on Saturday! Only thing that was a noticeable increase in tempetature after the 2nd dose. After our walk Natalie was pretty chilled and couldn't get warm but about 20 minutes after we took our 2nd dose of AT2 she was completely warmed up

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlawedGrunt View Post
    PS - Lets get all my AM homies in on this! Nat and I need all the encouragement we can get! Lookin forward to see in you guys!
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    Day 7 - Sunday 03/27/2011

    Workout:

    WARM UP
    Did the warm up routine from the Insanity Workout

    Running
    Ran 1.2 miles again but a little quicker than last time.

    Down from an 8min 15sec mile to a 7min 45sec mile...Ill take it for my second run!

    STRETCHES


    Post Dinner
    Nat and I did the AB RIPPER X from p90x



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    Food:

    Bfast
    2 Eggs With Cheese
    3.5 Pieces of Bacon
    1 Whole Wheat English Muffin
    .5 Bananna

    Snack
    1 Serving Almonds

    Dinner
    7-8oz Garlic Lemon Chicken
    1 Servings Broccoli Casserole
    1 Side Salad With Dressing

    Late Night Snack
    Cottage cheese mixed with a half scoop of protein


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    Overview:

    Still going strong on the energy and the thermogenic part of the supplement. Posting Week 1 Numbers soon and looking forward to pushing in to week two of this log! Gonna have to start stepping up my cardio game soon to keep these numbers coming off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NatalieRose View Post
    I did have a few questions about my diet... I started off at about 1200 calories and averaged about 170 grams of carbs a day. The 1200 was fine at first, but today I was starving all day. I read around and calculated my calorie needs with the P90x nutrition guide. I found out I should be getting about 1500. I also read I should be getting about 180 grams of carbs a day, but I'm not sure if that is too much. I understand the simple and complex carbs, but how much of each is desirable and healthy? And is 1500 calories a good limit for a female my size?? (5'4", 123 lbs) I want to be getting enough but definitely not too much. ANY help is much appreciated! Thanks!!!
    Did anyone have any input on this by chance?
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    Sure. I'd say simple carbs that come directly from fruits are as good as complex carbs. But avoid simple carbs that are processed, or even juices. 25g of fructose from a whole apple is great, 25g of fructose from apple juice isn't so great. 1500 calories seems reasonable. If you aren't feeling as full, add raw spinach or salad greens to meals for fill factor. And so far as i'm concerned, once you've reached minimal thresholds for protein and fats (at your size i'd say 100g+ protein and 45g healthy fats) where the rest of the calories come from isn't so critical assuming its not all from sugar and white bread.
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    Week 1 Update!


    Starting Measurements: 03/21/2011 - 03/28/2011 (Week 1) - Difference

    FlawedGrunt:
    Age: 26
    Height: 6′
    Weight: 218.2 lbs - 213 - (-5.2 lbs)
    Stomach (Widest Point): 40.25″ - 39.5 - (-.75")
    Chest: 46″ - 44" - (-2")
    Circumference at Widest Point of Glutes (Hip): 44″ - 42.75" - (-1.25")
    Arms: L- 15.5″ - 15.25" - (-.25")
    R- 15.75″ - 15.5" - (-.25")
    Thighs: L- 23.75″ - 24" - (+.25")
    R- 24.5″ - 23.25" - (-1.25")
    Calves: L- 16″ - 15.75" - (-.25")
    R- 15.75″ - 15.75" - (No Change)

    NatRose:
    Age: 24
    Height: 54″
    Weight: 123.6 lbs - 123 lbs - (-.6 lbs)
    Stomach (Widest Point): 34.5″ - 34" - (-.5")
    Chest: 35.5″ - 35.5" - (No Change)
    Circumference at Widest Point of Glutes (Hip): 36.5″ - 35.5" - (-1")
    Arms: L- 10.5″ - 10.5" - (No Change)
    R- 10.5″ - 10.75" - (+.25")
    Thighs: L- 18.75″ - 18.25" - (-.5")
    R- 19″ - 18.5" - (-.5")
    Calves: L- 12.25″ - 12" - (-.25")
    R- 12.25″ - 12" - (-.25")



    Overview:

    Overall I think its a great first week. We both have had steady declines in measurements. The only major difference is that I lost more on the scale but I think that has more to do with me taking Erase and being pretty dry.

    However I do wonder if some of our first measurements were off. Definitely no way I lost 2 inches off my chest

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Sure. I'd say simple carbs that come directly from fruits are as good as complex carbs. But avoid simple carbs that are processed, or even juices. 25g of fructose from a whole apple is great, 25g of fructose from apple juice isn't so great. 1500 calories seems reasonable. If you aren't feeling as full, add raw spinach or salad greens to meals for fill factor. And so far as i'm concerned, once you've reached minimal thresholds for protein and fats (at your size i'd say 100g+ protein and 45g healthy fats) where the rest of the calories come from isn't so critical assuming its not all from sugar and white bread.
    Thanks for responding! Im sure she will see this at work....so if she is to avoid juices... does that mean she should be avoiding Orange Juice? She loves that shxt haha... and what about milk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NatalieRose
    I did have a few questions about my diet... I started off at about 1200 calories and averaged about 170 grams of carbs a day. The 1200 was fine at first, but today I was starving all day. I read around and calculated my calorie needs with the P90x nutrition guide. I found out I should be getting about 1500. I also read I should be getting about 180 grams of carbs a day, but I'm not sure if that is too much. I understand the simple and complex carbs, but how much of each is desirable and healthy? And is 1500 calories a good limit for a female my size?? (5'4", 123 lbs) I want to be getting enough but definitely not too much. ANY help is much appreciated! Thanks!!!
    No one can tell you what a "good" caloric intake is based on your size, since there are so many factors to take into consideration - for example, I am about the same weight as you right now, but only 5'1.8" and my Maintenance is close to 4,000 calories daily. 1,200 is too low, IMO, and even 1,500 for an active female resistance training is still low. You need to find out what your Maintenance calories are - there are many equations and calculations out there that do this, but you have to remember that they are just ESTIMATES and should not be taken at face value (I know what my Maintenance calories are from an extensive daily and weekly record of EVERYTHING and calculating from that), but used to establish a starting point. You should be adjusting your caloric intake, etc. weekly based on your progress from the week just been.

    As far as carbohydrate intake, it's nice to see you actually eating them and not being stupid and trying to eat less than 25-50g or eliminating them. How many carbohydrates you have is entirely up to you, as is how much of simple and complex you have. You just have to experiment to see what you feel best after - for example, I do best with complex carbohydrates, although I love fruit and will have that too, but find that even the sugar in fruit either increases my appetite something fierce or makes me sleepy.

    As you get to know your body, you'll find what feels best for it and works for you.


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    However I do wonder if some of our first measurements were off. Definitely no way I lost 2 inches off my chest
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlawedGrunt View Post
    Thanks for responding! Im sure she will see this at work....so if she is to avoid juices... does that mean she should be avoiding Orange Juice? She loves that shxt haha... and what about milk?
    milk is fine, and if you want to try and clip out some milk calories, there is the Hood Calorie Countdown milk, which is available in 2% + skim, and is lactose reduced so less carbs.

    the orange juice isn't as bad if she's drinking it with a meal, but i'd still try and avoid it. As a drink between meals its a fairly heavy insulin surge so not a great idea while trying to lose fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    milk is fine, and if you want to try and clip out some milk calories, there is the Hood Calorie Countdown milk, which is available in 2% + skim, and is lactose reduced so less carbs.

    the orange juice isn't as bad if she's drinking it with a meal, but i'd still try and avoid it. As a drink between meals its a fairly heavy insulin surge so not a great idea while trying to lose fat.
    Thanks for the responses guys! I was more worried about the sugar carbs in milk for her... Is milk to general ok or only in moderation. For example would say 4 servings of milk a day be a bad thing or ok with meals?
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    even with skim milk, the sugar is offset by the protein somewhat in terms of quite how fast it digests and hits system. So more about the overall caloric plan than whether milk particularly is good or bad. 2 glasses of skim at a meal is about the same impact as eating 3-4 egg whites plus a banana. So again though, with feeling full being at least a partial issue, it would be better to have the 3-4 egg whites and a banana than the milk
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Maybe Erase is Erasing your man boobies!

    aaaahahhahaahahha!!!!!

    THANKS for all the advice everyone!!! im definitely a carb lover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlawedGrunt View Post
    Did anyone have any input on this by chance?
    have her get blood sugar tested, i found out i have low blood sugar and need more carbs or i feel like crap. low carb diets aren't for everyone, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    have her get blood sugar tested, i found out i have low blood sugar and need more carbs or i feel like crap. low carb diets aren't for everyone, imo.
    Actually since you said that... Natalie and I kind of suspect she may be hypoglycemic... she pointed it out once before but I never really realized what it completely meant

    Like when she gets super hungry she gets irritable and even shaky sometimes...

    Which could explain why her and I have such different needs. I can be totally fine on 100g or less of carbs and my last blood test had me teetering right below pre-diabetic so my blood sugar being higher might explain my cravings

    Howver I do crave candy and sweets non stop ha
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlawedGrunt View Post
    Actually since you said that... Natalie and I kind of suspect she may be hypoglycemic... she pointed it out once before but I never really realized what it completely meant

    Like when she gets super hungry she gets irritable and even shaky sometimes...

    Which could explain why her and I have such different needs. I can be totally fine on 100g or less of carbs and my last blood test had me teetering right below pre-diabetic so my blood sugar being higher might explain my cravings

    Howver I do crave candy and sweets non stop ha
    everyone is different......i can't function on low carbs. the good thing is i burn them at a high rate. one suggestion i might make is the timing of carbs-before and after workout, 1st thing in morning, and never close to bed.
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    Hey guys! Don't worry we haven't fell off the wagon! I didnt update or do any kind of a workout monday or tuesday because I started having some pretty horrible toothache pain on a tooth that I definitely need a root canal for. Well anyways I went to the doc yesterday and go some meds so its feeling better... but it gets kind of gross.. this morning.. on my gums above the tooth was what looked like a massive pimple with a whitehead... lol... being my normal self... I popped it hahaha. It hurt like a bitch till I fell back asleep but has felt MUCH better ever since.
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    Ouch lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Ouch lol

    Looking forward to some more updates this week!
    Hey Natty! Did you by chance see the week 1 updates?
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    Day 10 - Wednesday 03/30/2011

    Workout:

    I did the Chest, Back, Tri workout from P90x which went like this:

    Round 1:

    Standard Front Push Ups 35 (+5 from last week)
    Wide Front Pull Ups 5 and 5 assisted (3 and 7 last week)
    Military Push Ups 21
    Reverse Grip Chin Ups 5 and 5 assisted
    Wide Fly Push Ups 25 (20 last week)
    Close Grip Overhand Pull Ups 4 and 6 assisted
    Decline Push Ups 22
    Heavy Pants 45lbs x 10
    Diamond Push Ups 14 (12 last week)
    Lawnmowers 45lbs x 10
    Diver Bomber Push Ups 12
    Back Flies 45lbs x 10

    Round 2:

    Standard Front Push Ups 26 (20 last week)
    Wide Front Pull Ups 4 and 6 assisted (2 and 8 last week)
    Military Push Ups 20
    Reverse Grip Chin Ups 4 and 6 assisted
    Wide Fly Push Ups 25
    Close Grip Overhand Pull Ups 3 and 7 assisted
    Decline Push Ups 16
    Heavy Pants 45lbs x 10
    Diamond Push Ups 19 (12 last week)
    Lawnmowers 45lbs x 10
    Diver Bomber Push Ups 10 (7 last week)
    Back Flies 45lbs x 10

    Post Workout
    Took the dogs for a 40 minute walk

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    Food:

    Bfast
    Cheated and had me some Frosted Flakes!

    Lunch
    Turkey Sandwich

    Snack
    1 String Cheese
    1 Beef Stick
    1 Serving Almonds

    Late Night Snack
    Cottage cheese mixed with a half scoop of protein


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    Overview:

    My workout felt pretty good today and it felt good to have an increase in some of my bodyweight numbers where I didnt feel any stronger last week when I did the same workout. I was sweating like crazy during my workout. On our walk I felt the AT2 pretty good... I was warm as hell and practically sweating from a brisk walk.

    Looking forward to week 2 numbers as I feel like I can see myself leaning the mirror a little more!

    And I definitely like that I am starting to see numbers on my wide grip pull ups... my lats are a huge weakness of mine and I hope they start growing!
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    love the updates...especially the measurements! keep up the good work guys!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NatalieRose View Post
    im definitely a carb lover.
    Man... I feel your pain. I am mostly of the WOP breed and love a good rosemary bread dipped in olive oil/Parmesan cheese. I may have to pay a visit to The Hill here in St. Louis soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NatalieRose View Post
    im definitely a carb lover.
    yeah, thats not necessarily a total problem, its more just playing with types of carbs and timing of carbs. The biggest problem I see with carbs is that they tend to make it easier to go over on total calories as with the grain type carbs they tend to come with added fat - ie butter on toast for example. Sticking to fruits for the most part really alleviates that issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NatalieRose View Post
    THANKS for all the advice everyone!!! im definitely a carb lover.
    No worries You and me both, Natalie - Sean will verify that with gusto As long as you learn how to manipulate them to your best advantage (which I have only recently done) you're fine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    KRISPY KREMES!!!!!!
    IDK, I've never gotten into the KK donuts...IMO, nothing beats a dunkin donut! and DD coffee is AMAZING!
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