Dynamic Anabolic Duo - NTBM Need2Slin and GEAR (sponsored)
- 09-13-2010, 10:20 PM
Dynamic Anabolic Duo - NTBM Need2Slin and GEAR (sponsored)
Thanks to NeedToBuildMuscle for sending me a bottle of Need2Slin and GEAR.
These two combined are perfect for nutrient partitioning and protein synthesis, so very glad I get to try this out. These are non-proprietary blends, which is GREAT!!!
I've used many nutrient repartitioners (Recompadrol, Glycobol, Slin Sane, SlinShot, Anabolic Pump, PSlin) so I have a good idea how to dose the different ingredients. I like Need2Slin because it doesn't have Vanadyl Sulfate, so you can continue to use it without worrying about poisoning. The really good ingredients IMO include 200mg Norvaline, 200mg Na-R-ALA, and 450mg Gymnema. Solid formula with some nice extras too.
GEAR is an amino acid supplement that helps increase the effectiveness of protein in your diet, helping increase protein synthesis. Really interesting blend with Super Plasma Serum, digestive enzymes, BCAA and whey fractions. Basically, taking this with food will increase protein synthesis.
Well, if you put increased protein synthesis with increased nutrient shuttling into muscles, you've got a dynamic anabolic duo! It really makes sense, and from now on I plan on getting BCAA pills (or Gear) to take with my nutrient repartitioners. I'm hoping this will help pack on some muscle mass, that will be my measure of success.
Tomorrow I will take measurements and weigh in.
Dosing will be 2 pills Need2Slin and 4 pills GEAR, 30 minutes before meals. I'll take this for breakfast, lunch, and dinner with 50-100g carbs each meal.
2 caps per serving, 60 servings per container
450mg gymnema sylvestre, a whopping 75 percent gymnemic acids!!
250mg Acetyl L-carnatine
90mg Coleus forskholi, 20 percent forskolin
30mg synephrine HCI
18mg Banaba leaf
- 09-13-2010, 10:23 PM
The two products id be most interested in, you seem to be bulking though, i am cutting and will be doin so for a while!
Ill be watching though for sure.E-Pharm Rep... PM me with any questions or concerns
- 09-13-2010, 10:28 PM
I won't be in a caloric deficit, so not a cut for sure, but hope for little fat!!!
09-13-2010, 10:31 PM
09-14-2010, 09:01 AM
Measurements: cold and unflexed
Left Bicep: 15"
Right Bicep: 15"
Left Thigh: 23.5"
Right Thigh: 24"
Left Calf: 15.5"
Right Calf: 16"
bf%: 16% from 3 point skin fold
Okay, bodyfat is way higher than I thought. I was expecting around 12% since I've been bulking, but 16% is high for me!!! Guess I've been indulging in too many carbs... Time to tighten up the diet!
New game plan, looking to "recomp" now, lose fat and turn it into muscle. Target bf % will be 12%, so lose ~8lbs fat (midsection / waist) and gain about equivalent lbm while increasing strength. I'll be using a 5x5 program with extra ancillary days on Tuesday/Thursday. I'll probably throw in some HIIT cardio post workout 2-3 times a week as well.
09-14-2010, 09:09 AM
09-14-2010, 11:15 AM
09-14-2010, 04:57 PM
Took 3 caps N2Slin and 4 caps Gear after morning workout approximately 30 minutes before meal. I had 1.5 cup of oats with 2 scoops whey and some agave nectar.
I felt the Na-R-ALA burn as it does with me when I'm on an empty stomach, but drinking water takes care of that. Definitely felt ready for some carbs!!!
I also took 3 caps N2Slin and 4 caps Gear 40 minutes prior to lunch, which was chicken breast, 1 cup brown rice, green beans and an apple.
Going to head home soon, take a couple more N2Slin and 4 caps Gear for dinner (we'll see what wifey has cooked up).
So far, N2Slin feels like Glycobol when taking on a fasted stomach (the Na-R-ALA). No hypoglycemic feeling, but ready to eat and reduced bloat afterwards. Good stuff!
I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel on GEAR, but I guess results in measurement and bf% will show the impact there.
09-15-2010, 11:58 AM
I had an early meeting downtown DC today, so I had to drink my PWO shake and no solid meal for breakfast :sadpanda: I didn't take anything with the PWO shake, saving doses for lunch and dinner.
I took 3 pills N2Slin with 4 pills GEAR about 20 minutes ago with 20g Xtend. I can feel slight hypo setting in, and I'm greatly anticipating a carb-loaded lunch! Going to PotBelly with some friends.
09-15-2010, 12:10 PM
Dang 3 pills huh? id be goin hypo too!
subbed... kill this sh1t bro!
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09-15-2010, 01:14 PM
09-16-2010, 05:14 PM
Day 4: Went with 3 pills N2Slin and 4 pills GEAR again for breakfast of 1.5 cups oatmeal and 2 scoops protein. I like the way 3 pills makes me feel before and after a big carb meal.
I had 2 pills N2Slin and 4 pills GEAR for lunch which was chicken, brown rice and mixed veggies. Not enough carbs in this, I think it was .25-.5 cup brown rice. I ate a nectarine and a caramel afterwards and it helped top off the carb balance.
I just took 2 more pills N2Slin and 4 pills Gear on my way home for dinner. Maybe I'll pop a 3rd if I can get the wife to go to the $5 Indian buffet!
So far, great nutrient repartitioner and amino combo. I'm going to do some more research on the super plasma serum MOA to see how it might best work.
As a side note, digestion and overal GI comfort is great. On Recompadrol I had to drop a deuce 3-4 times a day, and it was loose and gassy. Glycobol was 1-2 times, and green and runny. Now I'm down to once a day, and it's "normal". Sorry for being graphic, but I think most people don't talk about this aspect and then wonder if it's just something wrong with them or not. No problems on Need2Slin!
09-16-2010, 05:31 PM
09-16-2010, 05:59 PM
09-16-2010, 06:19 PM
09-17-2010, 05:40 AM
Need to do more research, but a very unique supplement. I might consider also adding 5g BCAA 30 minutes pre-meal, but again, gotta read up on some Layne Norton shiz.
09-17-2010, 05:43 AM
Last night on the drive home I was getting the hypo light-headed feeling off 2 pills + 4 gear. For some odd reason, I really like that feeling, lets me know it's working... really well! It's the GIMME CARBS NAOW feeling!!!
09-17-2010, 10:09 AM
Day 5: Well, no $5 Indian buffet last night, kid was sick and wife made ribs and beans.
Today had a decent workout in the AM, 5x5 typical workout and added a little volume work at the end.
Took 2 pills N2Slin and 4 gear ~30 minutes before breakfast. Right now I'm eating my 1 cup oatmeal, 2 scoops whey and agave nectar. Not feeling bloated, which is nice.
Lunch will be combo chicken and veggies from yesterday and ribs from last night with beans. That'll be good with some N2Slin and Gear!
Overall, feeling good food pump, and definitely noticing hypo feeling before eating after 2 pills N2Slin.
09-19-2010, 07:23 PM
Day 6: Changed up the dosing protocol to 2 pills N2Slin and 5 Gear at each meal. I had been doing 4 gear each meal and 3 at night, but after reading other reviews and some studies I think taking more around the same time as meals has more benefit.
That being said, good thing I had N2Slin since my son wanted pancakes this morning and someone had to eat the leftovers. Needless to say, N2Slin helped pack away the carbs.
I had been very hesitant to indulge in carbs, but with N2Slin, I feel much better about it.
A note about Gear, I've been reading up a bit more about Serum Plasma. Seems like there's some more support for taking this around meals to help increase the bioavailability of the rest of the whole food protein. The only thing is the levels were 2.5-5% of the volume. Well, Gear at 5 pills is just 1.25g Serum Plasma. Regardless it'll have a benefit to enhance the protein synthesis and bioavailability. With the additional BCAA, protein fractions and enzymes it certainly is going to benefit meals.
Combined with N2Slin, GEAR certainly is a great combo. Add in 5g BCAA to the mix 30-60 minutes pre-meal for some mTOR activation and it's about as good as it gets.
09-19-2010, 07:26 PM
Day 7: N2Slin 2 caps and GEAR 5 caps with breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Son wanted waffles this morning, so big carb loaded meal with eggs and orange juice. N2Slin to the rescue!
Went to a Fall Festival, and well, it's fair food. Popped a couple N2Slin and had a pulled pork sandwich and some fries.
Finally for dinner, Salmon, brown rice and green beans. N2Slin did the trick there again.
Glad I've got this on hand, looking forward to keeping it around. I'll have to get a bottle for an upcoming cruise in December.
09-22-2010, 12:10 PM
Day 8: N2Slin 2 caps and GEAR 5 caps with breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Traveling day, drove 3 hours in the AM into an all day meeting.
Took my breakfast dose and had a protein shake with milk, and a ham/egg croissanwich from BK.
Lunch was crappy pizza, glad I had the N2Slin and GEAR to make it better.
Dinner was awesome, NY Strip Steak with baked sweet potato and veggies. YUM!
Good pumps, I think the Norvaline is doing the trick when it comes to vasodilation. I wonder what it would be like using this combo for fasted AM training, probably really good for recomp or cutting!
09-22-2010, 12:13 PM
Day 9: N2Slin 2 caps and GEAR 5 caps with breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Breakfast was at the hotel, Marriott executive platinum level, so got some breakfast burritos with lots of eggs, a couple hard boiled eggs, glass of OJ, and a couple glasses of milk.
Lunch was crappy KFC Colonel's Strips (6 of em) with mashed potatoes and gravy, and coleslaw. Stuff cost $10!
Dinner was homemade taco salad. Extra lean beef and nachos on a bed of lettuce. Not bad with a XX beer on the side. Arriba!
09-22-2010, 12:15 PM
Day 10: N2Slin 2 caps and GEAR 5 caps with breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Took dose after AM workout with 1 scoop ModernBCAA (10g of 8:1:1 BCAA). Stuff tastes alright, very light flavor with slight leucine taste, but mixes really easy!
Lunch will be left over taco salad and a sandwich.
Dinner tonight looks like the $5 Indian Buffet!!! YUM!!! 3 caps N2Slin for sure!
Weighed in this morning at 207lbs. Up 2 lbs since start. I have lost some definition, so not all lean, but it's good, solid mass. I can't wait to start Dieselbolan V2.0 for my Mr. Supps log soon!!!
09-23-2010, 04:02 PM
Day 11: N2Slin 2 caps and GEAR 5 caps with breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Breakfast was 1.5 cups oats, 1.5 scoops NitroCore Cinnabun, and some agave nectar.
Lunch was Taco Salad with nacho chips and greek yogurt.
Tonight will be Chili, awesome!
I'm beginning to run low on Gear, but I also seem to have added some muscle mass. We'll see when I take measurements at the end of this run.
09-23-2010, 05:43 PM
09-23-2010, 07:45 PM
I'm already at just about the heaviest I've ever been (208 this morning). Dieselbolan will be awesome! I'm shooting for 220+ so I can add some real muscle mass! I still don't think I'll be able to DL like Tomahawk...
09-23-2010, 09:44 PM
09-24-2010, 08:55 AM
09-27-2010, 08:50 AM
Day 12-15: Dosed 2 caps N2Slin and 5 caps Gear with breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Overall, feeling pumped after meals with little bloat (except yesterday's picnic BBQ, waaaay too much food!). Hypo feeling if I don't get my carbs in within 30 minutes. 2 caps N2Slin was plenty powerful. Great nutrient partitioner. Results posted in a few...
09-27-2010, 08:59 AM
Measurements: cold and unflexed
Chest: 42" ---> 42.25" (+0.25")
Left Bicep: 15" ---> 15/25" (+0.25")
Right Bicep: 15" ---> 15.25" (+0.25")
Forearms: 12" ---> 12.5" (+0.5") been using Fat Gripz...
Waist: 35" ---> 35.5" (+0.5")
Left Thigh: 23.5" ---> 23.5"
Right Thigh: 24" ---> 24"
Left Calf: 15.5" ---> 15.5"
Right Calf: 16" ---> 16"
Weight: 205 ---> 208lbs (+3lbs)
bf%: 16% ---> 13.5% from 3 point skin fold (-2.5%)
So in total a weight gain of 3 lbs, 0.25" gain in biceps and chest (SCORE!), and a little extra in the midsection (meh, nothing albuterol/T3/cardio can't handle). If you followed my diet though, it was not clean by any means. I was going for a bulk, with caloric excess and more carbs than I typically eat.
To get the 2.5 bf% reduction and weight gain of 3 lbs, I'd say the N2Slin and GEAR combo did a great job! N2Slin seemed to work well, and was complemented by the enhanced protein delivery from GEAR. A very good combo whether you're cutting, recomping, or bulking.
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