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    Log's looking good mate!

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    Day 24 PCT

    Weight 188lbs


    After shower- 4 pumps of Sustain Alpha


    Meal 1
    Oatmeal
    Protein shake

    2 caps of Need2slin
    2 caps of Omega 3'6'9

    Cals: 500, Fat: 2.5g, Carbs: 55g, Pro: 60g



    Pre-workout- 2 scoops of N2KTS, 6 caps of Hemovol, 1 scoop of Purple Wraath, 2 scoops of Xtend, 2 tbsp's of EVO, 5 caps of HCGenerate, 2 caps of Stoked



    Weights/conditioning
    Incline DB press (25'sx30), (40'sx8), (60'sx6), (70'sx3), (80'sx6)
    Overhead DB press (25'sx10), (40'sx8), (60'sx3), (70'sx5)
    Alternatining DB curls (20'sx10), (40'sx4), (50'sx4), (65'sx4)
    Overhead DB tricep extension (60x10), (80x10), (100x12)
    Cable Rows (120x10), (150x5), (180x5), (220x5), (240x5), (250x6maxed machine)

    Circuit
    Tire flips 20 reps
    Ball slams 50 reps
    Ball throws 30 reps
    Ball slams 40 reps
    Ball throws 30 reps
    Sledge hammer (12lbsx10), (8lbsx20), (12lbsx10), (8lbsx20), (12lbsx10), (8lbsx20),


    Post workout- 4 scoops of Xtend


    Meal 2
    Chicken breast on multigrain buns

    Cals: 370 Fat: 4.5g Carbs: 35g Protein: 20g


    Meal 3
    Oatmeal
    1 cap of Need2slin
    2 caps of Omega 3'6'9

    Cals: 170 fat: 2.5g Carbs: 30g Protein: 4g


    Pre-workout- 1 scoop of N2KTS, 2 caps of Hemovol, 1 scoop of Purple Wraath, 2 scoops of Xtend, 3 caps of HCGenerate, 2 caps of Stoked

    Grappling
    Stretch
    8x6min rounds of Grappling
    Stretch
    Went home then
    P90X Ab workout

    Post workout- 2 scoops of Xtend


    Meal 4
    4 multgrain buns with cheese and chicken

    1 cap of HCGenerate
    2 caps of Omega 3'6'9

    Cals: 680 fat: 22g Carbs: 64g Protein: 50g


    Meal 5
    Protein with water

    Cals: 85 fat: 0.25g Carbs: 0.5g Protein: 20g


    Total = Cals: 1705
    Fat: 31.75g
    Carbs: 184.5g
    Protein: 154g but with all the purple wraath and xtend I'm prob around 200ish



    Day 24 PCT Supplement Thoughts

    Sustain Alpha
    Day 24, Feeling really good, awesome day.


    HCGenertate
    Day 35, Wow havn't done much weights during pct, went from 208 to 188lbs and still lifting almost the same.


    Need2slin
    Day 24, Really heping me get some extra carbs without gaining the weight.


    N2KTS
    Only 2 scoops left, Gonna save it for the tourny.


    Notes
    Felt great, did really good grappling today, gonna do cardio for Tuesday and get 2 really hard grappling workouts in Wednesday.
    So far so great, feeling really good
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    Nice work judgement!!! Not sure why you don't have more ppl follow mang!! haha your LOGS ARE TOP NOTCH MANG!!! DAM!!!. . your intent is to lose weight correct? If so Nice work!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaelael View Post
    Nice work judgement!!! Not sure why you don't have more ppl follow mang!! haha your LOGS ARE TOP NOTCH MANG!!! DAM!!!. . your intent is to lose weight correct? If so Nice work!!!
    Thanks! aha it's all good, as long as I have a good group like yourself, Dr.D, Kristofer68SS, UKstrength,Andrew732 and Carpee watching then thats enough motivation to keep my logs up to date and not slack Plus I'm logging this on need2buildmuscle, so I get some extra motivation there too

    Yup I bulked up to 208lbs on Dermacrine, now cutting down to 185lbs, only took me like 3-4 weeks to lose 23lbs 3 more days untill my grappling tourny!!!
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    Day 25 PCT

    Weight 187lbs


    After shower- 2 pumps of Sustain Alpha


    Meal 1
    Oatmeal
    Protein shake

    2 caps of Need2slin
    2 caps of Omega 3'6'9
    1 cap of HCGenerate
    1 caps of Stoked

    Cals: 500, Fat: 2.5g, Carbs: 55g, Pro: 60g


    Meal 2
    Protein shake
    1 cap of Need2slin
    2 caps of Omega 3'6'9

    Cals: 330 fat: 0.5g Carbs: 25g Protein: 56g


    Pre-workout-
    2 scoops of Maximize, 5 caps of Hemovol, 1 scoop of Purple Wraath, 3 scoops of Xtend, 6 caps of HCGenerate, 2 caps of Stoked


    Cardio
    Run 5 min
    Sprint intervals 5 min
    Skipping 5 min
    Kickboxing on heavy bag 3x5min rounds
    Bike 10 min
    Abs 100 reps

    I put on a garbage bag, just put it around the waist tho and put on a sweater and a couple jogging pants.

    Post workout- 4 scoops of Xtend


    Meal 3
    Chicken breast on multigrain buns with cheese

    Cals: 480 Fat: 9g Carbs: 35g Protein: 24g


    Meal 4
    Yogurt
    1 cap of HCGenerate
    1 cap of Stoked
    2 caps of Omega 3'6'9

    Cals: 200 fat: 2g Carbs: 14g Protein: 6g


    Meal 5
    Protein with water

    Cals: 170 fat: 0.5g Carbs: 1g Protein: 20g


    Total = Cals: 1680
    Fat: 14.5g
    Carbs: 130g
    Protein: 166g + Xtend and Purple wraath around 200ish



    Day 25 PCT Supplement Thoughts

    Sustain Alpha
    Day 25, down to 2 pumps a day

    HCGenertate
    Day 36, :O almost out


    Need2slin
    Day 25, Wish I had another bottle.

    N2KTS
    Took maximize today, was good, but I like N2KTS more.


    Notes
    Feeling great!!!
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    Day 26 PCT(wednesday)

    Weight 185.5lbs


    After shower- 2 pumps of Sustain Alpha


    Meal 1
    Oatmeal
    Protein shake

    2 caps of Need2slin
    2 caps of Omega 3'6'9
    1 cap of HCGenerate

    Cals: 500, Fat: 2.5g, Carbs: 55g, Pro: 60g


    Pre-workout- 1 scoop of Maximize, 1 scoop of N2KTS, 5 caps of Hemovol, 1 scoop of Purple Wraath, 2 scoops of Xtend, 5 caps of HCGenerate, 2 caps of Stoked

    Grappling
    Stretch
    10x5min rounds of grappling
    Stretch


    Post workout- 4 scoops of Xtend, protein bar

    Cals-410, fat- 14, carbs- 44g, pro- 30g


    Meal 2
    Chicken breast on multigrain bread with cheese
    1 cap of Need2slin
    2 caps of Omega 3'6'9

    Cals: 560 Fat: 18g Carbs: 36g Protein: 30g


    Meal 3
    Chicken breast

    1 cap of Stoked
    2 caps of HCGenerate
    2 caps of Omega 3'6'9

    Cals: 120 Fat: 1.5g Carbs: 0g Protein: 24g

    Meal 4
    4 pieces of hadock Fish

    1 cap of Stoked
    2 caps of Omega 3'6'9

    Cals: 180 fat: 1g Carbs: 0g Protein: 44g


    2 scoops of Xtend


    Total = Cals: 1870
    Fat: 37g
    Carbs: 135g
    Protein: 188g



    Day 26 PCT Supplement Thoughts


    Sustain Alpha
    Day 26, 2 pumps a day

    HCGenertate

    Day 37, It's been a good run


    Need2slin
    Day 26, almost done as well!

    N2KTS
    Love N2KTS, still hasn't matched up to any other pre-workouts.


    Notes
    Hardest 10x5min rounds of my life, wow, last 5 rounds I got the best grappler at the gym fresh, wow did he ever put a beating on me for 5 rounds, very frustrating at times.
    Also like to note, diet isn't fun now. so close to the tourny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaelael View Post
    OOOOOO YEEEEAAAAHHHH!!!! LIBIDO TIME!!! NEW LOG MUHAHAH!!

    I save this picture for only a select few hahaha!!

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    Thats a nice stack right there. I mite say one of the best product stacks I have ever seen lol... So tell me how do you run this stack bro.. 3 taps ed spread eagle or is there a better way of running her ah I mean it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by needtogetaas View Post
    Thats a nice stack right there. I mite say one of the best product stacks I have ever seen lol... So tell me how do you run this stack bro.. 3 taps ed spread eagle or is there a better way of running her ah I mean it?
    ahaha Best stack I've ever used!
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    Damn I was gonna post up todays log too, but takes forever to highlight **** when your half asleep and I need a good nights sleep lol, so I'll do it when I wake up lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    Day 33

    Weight 201.5lbs

    Supplements- 2 caps of Omega 3'6'9, 1 packet of Glucosamine, Chondroitine sulfate, MSM, Hyaluronic acid.

    After shower Supplements-
    5 Pumps of Dermacrine, 2 Pumps of Formestane, 2 caps of HGH UP

    Meal 1
    Fruit smoothie
    Wheytobuildmuscle 1 scoop mixed with 375ml of skim milk

    what flavor you running bro.


    Cals: 647 Fat: 9.5g Carbs: 85g Protein: 47.5g



    Meal 2
    Spaghetti

    Cals: 670 Fat: 28g Carbs: 53g Protein: 48.5g


    Meal 3
    Protein juice with Orange juice
    Cals: 300 Fat: 1g Carbs: 28g Protein: 22g



    30min Pre-Workout- 2 scoops of N2KTS, 5g of Taurine, bcaa's & 2 scoops of Protocol, 1.5 scoop of Kwick Karb, 3g of Di-creatine Malate, Water, 10 caps of Hemovol


    Arm workout
    Barbell curls- 5 sets (45x15), (80x6), (115x3), (135x10) PR , (155lbs 1 rep) PR

    Incline curls- 3 sets (35'sx15), (35'sx15), (35'sx12)
    Super Set
    Pushdowns Super set to Reverse push downs- 3 sets (70+30 reps), (40 reps), (30 reps)

    Dumbbell preacher curls- 3 sets (35'sx12), (35x10), (35x10)
    Super Set
    DB kick backs- 3 sets (30x15), (30x12), (30x8)

    Pump Circuit
    Hammer curl (35lbs db 10 reps, 10 reps, 8 reps)
    bent over arnold curl (35lbs db 10 reps, 8 reps, 6 reps)
    Wide grip push downs (10 reps, 10 reps, 10 reps)
    Close grip reverse push downs ( 10 reps, 10 reps, 10 reps)
    Wrist curl (20 reps, 20 reps, 20 reps)
    Reverse wrist curl (12 reps, 12 reps, 12 reps)
    behind back wrist curl (15 reps, 15 reps, 15 reps)
    side wrist curls with sledge hammer ( 10 reps, 8 reps, 6 reps)
    Repeat circuit 3 times
    Bike for 5 min
    Boxing on heavy bag 10 min


    Meal 4
    Protein shake
    Muscle Replenisher 2 scoops
    Kwick Karb 1.5 scoop
    500ml of Skim milk

    Cals: 390 Fat: 0g Carbs: 46g Protein: 51g
    hell ya perfect post work out... You know almost everything you are running pre work out is in the muscle replesher my man. You could just run this before and after and it would save you some money.

    Meal 5
    1 Extra lean hamburger on Multi-grain buns

    Cals: 412 Fat: 9g Carbs: 38g Protein: 30g


    Meal 6
    2 scoops of Wheytobuild with 500ml of Skim milk

    Cals: 382 Fat: 4g Carbs: 16g Protein: 60g


    Pre-bed- 3 caps of HGH UP

    4 caps gear,1 need2slin,1 serving n2matrix, and one serving powerbuter. The perfect night time muscle mix my man. Look into it.
    Total = Cals: 2801
    Fat: 51.5g
    Carbs: 266g
    Protein: 259g



    Day 33 Supplement Thoughts

    Dermacrine
    Day 33, Still going up in strength


    Formestane
    Day 33, I love formestane, love the aggression!
    look into forma-stanzol bro do a search on it. Its formastane on steroids for real!!!!

    HGH UP
    Day 33, Sleep still awesome!


    Protocol
    Day 33, 2 scoops is perfect for the extra ting ting before the workout


    N2KTS
    Day 33, Arms!!! I do arms and I sweat non stop LOL, I LOVE IT!!!! I love how it just makes me not wanna take breaks and just keep pumping it!


    Whey2Protein
    Day 33, I used the blender this time, like it's good stuff, but the batch I got is all gritty, the cake batter isn't gritty at all, I don't care tho, it's hell of a good protein and tastes way better then most of the other **** they got out there!

    ok I take it you are drinking the vanilla then. There was a batch that came out like this. If you want a refund let me know and I will give you one no problems at all my friend.

    Muscle Replenisher
    Took it down like nothing, so damn hot out and so damn thirsty!!!!


    Hemovol
    Well I felt good pumps and vascularity, and a bit of a boost, but I would still say Citrucvol Ultra and Cre-02 gives me better pumps and endurance! but for the price I got it for and the ingredents in there can't beat the price!


    Notes
    Good day!, so happy I curled 135lbs 10 reps, when I was injured 7 months ago and started back I thought I would never beat my PR of 7 reps again, I got pretty damn thin from not being able to do weights for a 10 months.
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    WheyToBuild is delicious!!!!!!!!!!!!
    doing my own thang!
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    I'm super busy, need to sleep real soon, got to get up in 6 hours for the tounry, I know I'm behind a couple days but I'll be sure to post everything when I come back from the tounry
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    Thusday I put lots of rounds of grappling in, it was a crazy session, ate very low cal, low carb.

    Friday rested up, only had a couple protein shakes with water and 4 peices of fish, it sucked lol

    SATURDAY!!!- tourny day!!! I'll be honest, my muscles and joints were hurting bad, but my mind and determination wanted it more then anything, I went against some pretty good guys, but I'm relentless and took 1st home

    Here is some pics my wifey took


    The 1 guy almost got me in a guillotine, when I mean almost, It was super tight, I would never tap, but I was hoping for his arm to gas out before I pass out cause he was squeezing hard and his arm gassed
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    That a BOY, I know you could bring home the W, good shizzz!!!!
    doing my own thang!
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    That a BOY, I know you could bring home the W, good shizzz!!!!
    Thanks Bro!!!

    I'm super Pumped, I wanna focus on a lot of stand up and conditioning for a bit now, maybe 6 weeks, still adding in grappling tho, but after about 6 weeks I'm gonna look for another grappling tourny or amateur mma fight.

    I'll see how everything goes with training, but if I do another grappling tourny after that one I will focus on competing in mma fights.
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    Nice bro, keep training hard and focusing on what is in front of you!
    doing my own thang!
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    Nice bro, keep training hard and focusing on what is in front of you!
    Thanks bro! I will, I'm gonna give it all I got!!!
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    My NeedToBuildMuscle Final Review!!!

    The MMA Stack!!!

    HCGenertate
    5 cap serving
    Fadogia Agrestis.................1000
    Fenugreek PE (50% testofen).....1000
    3,4 Divanillyltetrahydrofuran....5 00
    Bulgarian Tribulus Terrestre: 500mg
    Vitamin E.......................200
    LJ:100........................ ..100
    Zinc.......................... ..7mg

    10 out of 10- I give HCGenerate a perfect 10, I perfer 10 caps, love taking 5 caps pre-workout, best natty T-booster IMO, amazing ingredent profile, the best of the best ingredents!
    It really helped me maintain strength while cutting lots of weight and also gave me sick workouts!!! Plus Libido was NUTS!!!


    Need2slin
    2 cap serving size
    450mg gymnema sylvestre, a whopping 75 percent gymnemic acids!!
    250mg Acetyl L-carnatine
    200mg NaR-ALA
    200mg L-norvaline
    90mg Coleus forskholi, 20 percent forskolin.
    30mg synephrine HCI
    18mg Banaba leaf.

    10 out of 10- I feel Need2slin is the best for recomping and getting extra carbs while cutting, gave some really good pumps as well, not as good as P-slin pumps, but didn't bloat like P-slin and cuts much better, also worked better then Glycobol for me.

    And an extra note it didn't bother my stomach what so ever, I know Glycobol did and Anabolic Pumps went right through me.


    N2KTS
    Mixed Berry flavor
    Serving size 1 level scoop
    Synergistic complex blend 3653.33mg
    (caffeine,theophylline from guarana) dimethylamylamine,dibenzo(A,c) cycloocten-6-oi,5,6,7,8-, tetrahydro-1-2-3,10,11,12-hexamethoxy-6-7-dimethyl, stereoisomer (schizandrol A), Arginine alhpa-ketoglutarate (AAKG), Creatine Monohydrate, Beta Alanine

    10 out of 10- I've tried many pre-workout supplements, and N2KTS wins hands down. Nuff said.


    GEAR
    Each capsule contains:

    Super plasma protein: 250mg
    Hydrolized Caseinate aminos: 100mg
    Whey Fraction complex: 100mg
    BCAA's: 525mg
    Aminogen and Bromalain: 50mg

    7 out of 10- I felt like it was working good, but I do perfer having RPG, Xtend or Purple Wraath through out the day. But still a solid product, I will give it another shot in the future.


    Wheytobuildmuscle
    (1 scoop = 28g)
    calories- 111
    fat- 2g
    carbs- 2g
    protein- 22g

    10 out of 10- Best tasting Protein IMO and also love the low fat and low carbs.

    Sustain Alpha
    Trans-Resveratrol (99% pure - emodin free)
    162 mg
    7,8-Benzoflavone (99%)
    108 mg
    Aromatic oil blend
    21 mg

    10 out of 10- I really feel it also boosted Libido up real high with the HCGenerate and also feel it helped along with recomp and performance.



    Thoughts
    On this stack I really had some amazing training, I went up to 198lbs-208lbs on Dermacrine when Bulking and then with the NeedToBuildMuscle stack I went from 208lbs-184lbs for my tounry, I feel like the **** stack and Sustain Alpha worked better for me then the Dermacrine did, I was able to cut cals by A LOT and drop lots of fat and by the end I was lifting pretty much the same weight I was lifting at 208lbs.

    I'm very happy with NeedToBuildMuscle and Primordial performance, I feel like they are the 2 best supplement companies out there.
    I'm will be using both companies supplements in the future.

    I plan on doing a fat burning stack next with in a few weeks, which I won't be logging, but after that 6 week stack, I will log the stack after that.

    Which will be Dermacrine LV, AndroHard, GPLC, N2KTS etc

    But untill then Imma train my ass off get more hours in at work and enter another tourny, get Gold again Then I will log that stack which will be my pre amatuer mma fight stack

    Thanks for everyone that followed along!
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    Quote Originally Posted by needtogetmuscle View Post
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    Love it bro
    I'll have to give that night time stack a shot sometime!

    Naa I don't want a refund you sent it on the house so weather it was a diff texture or not I still enjoyed the free protein Thanks bro!
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    Thanks for the review bro!
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    Great review!!! Very Informative!! ALWAYS TOP NOTCH BRUTHA!!! WOOO!!
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    Now thats how you kill that sh*t my man. **** stile!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by needtogetmuscle View Post
    Now thats how you kill that sh*t my man. **** stile!!!!
    O ya best supplement stack I've ever used, NeedToBuildMuscle fan for life now!
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    Update- Looks to me that I have got a little bit of gyno coming up on the left nipple the last few days, never had it before.

    I'm guessing it may be from the Dermacrine, maybe it was too soon for me to be taking Dermacrine or HCG(double doesed and sustain alpha) stacks at the age of 21, I'm not really sure.

    All I know is it's a bit freaky, I started taking Topical Formestane, 2 pumps in the morning and 2 pumps at night on my chest, I also ordered Erase, hopefully these AI's work...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    Update- Looks to me that I have got a little bit of gyno coming up on the left nipple the last few days, never had it before.

    I'm guessing it may be from the Dermacrine, maybe it was too soon for me to be taking Dermacrine or HCG(double doesed and sustain alpha) stacks at the age of 21, I'm not really sure.

    All I know is it's a bit freaky, I started taking Topical Formestane, 2 pumps in the morning and 2 pumps at night on my chest, I also ordered Erase, hopefully these AI's work...
    Its from the Derma bro, just keep using the form, and def go 4 caps of Erase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    Its from the Derma bro, just keep using the form, and def go 4 caps of Erase.
    damn 4 caps, gamer said it made his joints really dry, should I try stacking Erase and Formestane? like 2 caps of Erase and 1 pump of Formestane on the chest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    damn 4 caps, gamer said it made his joints really dry, should I try stacking Erase and Formestane? like 2 caps of Erase and 1 pump of Formestane on the chest?
    2 pumps on chest and 2 caps erase. gamer is using a higher dosed erase.


    btw-i remember some of the stacks you have been using-i think i remember warning you that you were over doing it, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    2 pumps on chest and 2 caps erase. gamer is using a higher dosed erase.


    btw-i remember some of the stacks you have been using-i think i remember warning you that you were over doing it, lol.
    I will stick to that protocol when I get Erase thank!

    I do remember you telling me that, I was just thinking to the other day **** I should have listened to ya, but I guess ya got to be young and stupid to be old and wise lol

    I'm in the stupid stage of course lol, but now I have learned, my future stacks won't be so crazy, what I have learn't from this is theres no rush for test boosting supps at 21 years old lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    I will stick to that protocol when I get Erase thank!

    I do remember you telling me that, I was just thinking to the other day **** I should have listened to ya, but I guess ya got to be young and stupid to be old and wise lol

    I'm in the stupid stage of course lol, but now I have learned, my future stacks won't be so crazy, what I have learn't from this is theres no rush for test boosting supps at 21 years old lol
    if overdoing it on test boosters is the worst thing you do at that age, you have me beat by a longshot, lol. you will be ok, you just got a little overeager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    if overdoing it on test boosters is the worst thing you do at that age, you have me beat by a longshot, lol. you will be ok, you just got a little overeager.
    lol, true true!

    I got to say, I did a little workout today and ya gotta love the aggression from Formestane, I'm interested to see how Erase will compare to Formestane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    lol, true true!

    I got to say, I did a little workout today and ya gotta love the aggression from Formestane, I'm interested to see how Erase will compare to Formestane.
    me too, my friend...me too.
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    Update- looks like the Formestane has helped, no more pain in the nipple and it's not as swollen, but still a bit swollen I find.

    ugh still waiting for my order, I ordered from nutra thursday, they didn't send it out untill yesterday, I asked for 1-3 days shipping which I paid for...and they ended up sending it out through USPS which is now gonna take like 2 weeks cause there so damn slow!

    Now I guess I just wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    Update- looks like the Formestane has helped, no more pain in the nipple and it's not as swollen, but still a bit swollen I find.

    ugh still waiting for my order, I ordered from nutra thursday, they didn't send it out untill yesterday, I asked for 1-3 days shipping which I paid for...and they ended up sending it out through USPS which is now gonna take like 2 weeks cause there so damn slow!

    Now I guess I just wait.
    Glad to hear forma worked well for you. Hopefully your stuff comes in soon.
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