[benj851]

yeah right... like i would tell lol.

This product has an incredible ingredient lineup. some of the ingredients I knew off hand, and what they could do. others, I had to research, and search, and browse, and read; then I read some more. how come we don't see these ingredients in every product. they are remarkable!

The bottle is a simple non eye popping product. kinda reminds me of a chapparal ph bottle. which is nice because when my wife saw it she didn't freak out and thought I dropped another 100 bucks on stuff, just thought it was something from a store. (very nice because it could trick the wife)

the pills are a very different color and have a noticeable stylistic marking that will undoubtedly be distinguished amongst a handful of pills. they are also smaller than other pills made by usp, so small that my wife said she would like to try it. she thinks that even the size of powerfull, and ap are too big for her to swallow ( yet she can take more ) which was nice, because she has consistently mentioned how much she wants to lose a little weight.

the dosing protocal is three caps a day, two in the morning before food, and one several hours later, but several hours before bed. then the standard warning follows afterwards that you should start at one pill pre breakfast, and one pill hours later. normally I just go into a full dose of stims because I feel like I am rather stim tolerant. but again after reading up on the ingredients that I didn't know of I'm going to go ahead and start out at this lower dose. at this lower dose the bottle would last a full 30 days.

the studies I read mean seem to indicate that this is a serious thermogetic.

so here we go.....

just swallowed my little pill.

Updates to come!

Benjamin.




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[AZMIDLYF]

Awaiting the feedback!

[benj851]

well its been about 4 hours since I downed my first pill. I haven't really felt anything yet. the only note I feel is a little bit warmer, notas much so like when I am on ephedra. the only thing I noticed is like my brain is shaking a little bit, if you can imagine that type of thing...I know it sounds strange.

I'll try one more dose tomorrow at 2 caps and see how that goes. I'll let you all know.

Ben.

[strategicmove]

Following with interest.

[benj851]

the brain shakes turned into a headache, then went away... I will report back tomorrow with the second max strength dose.

[AMTorres]

the brain shakes turned into a headache, then went away... I will report back tomorrow with the second max strength dose.

I just got my bottle today too! Excited to start it tomorrow morning!

[strategicmove]

the brain shakes turned into a headache, then went away... I will report back tomorrow with the second max strength dose.

Be sure to stay hydrated!

[benj851]

just downed a full strength dose. will let you guys know how it goes.

strat- the headache could have been completely related to so many different things, and unrelated to oep, just letting the world know in case it was. I always stay hydrated tho.

have a great day people.

[benj851]

almost two hours later... I dosed it today (full recommended morning dose), and waited an hour and a half before eating to make sure it was absorbed. but I still am not feeling it...like at all, no offense, I'm not trying to bash usp I love your products. but I woke up exhausted, and feel as though I could go back to sleep. Its 70 in my house right now, I have on jeans and a shirt, and I'm covered up on the couch in a blanket.

am I doing something wrong, or is there a different way I should be taking the product?

I also know that not every supp in the world works for everyone, and perhaps I am not the biggest responder to this one...

does this product perhaps have a cumulative effect? does it need to build up in my system?

strat, boro, mullet, or usplabs, how can I get this to work on me? I did the research on the ingredients, I've exchanged studies with some other people who received the product as well. I know that the ingredients work, and know what to expect from my research, and I know that this is definitely a ground breaking blend.

but damnit; I just want this to work on me, I'm f'ing fat!

[strategicmove]

almost two hours later... I dosed it today (full recommended morning dose), and waited an hour and a half before eating to make sure it was absorbed. but I still am not feeling it...like at all, no offense, I'm not trying to bash usp I love your products. but I woke up exhausted, and feel as though I could go back to sleep. Its 70 in my house right now, I have on jeans and a shirt, and I'm covered up on the couch in a blanket.

am I doing something wrong, or is there a different way I should be taking the product?

I also know that not every supp in the world works for everyone, and perhaps I am not the biggest responder to this one...

does this product perhaps have a cumulative effect? does it need to build up in my system?

strat, boro, mullet, or usplabs, how can I get this to work on me? I did the research on the ingredients, I've exchanged studies with some other people who received the product as well. I know that the ingredients work, and know what to expect from my research, and I know that this is definitely a ground breaking blend.

but damnit; I just want this to work on me, I'm f'ing fat!

This is your second day. Far too early to reach any type of meaningful conclusions. Overall effects should be more noticeable with time. See what you notice after one week, two weeks, and so on. So, relax, and enjoy the product.

[Guest]

almost two hours later... I dosed it today (full recommended morning dose), and waited an hour and a half before eating to make sure it was absorbed. but I still am not feeling it...like at all, no offense, I'm not trying to bash usp I love your products. but I woke up exhausted, and feel as though I could go back to sleep. Its 70 in my house right now, I have on jeans and a shirt, and I'm covered up on the couch in a blanket.

am I doing something wrong, or is there a different way I should be taking the product?

I also know that not every supp in the world works for everyone, and perhaps I am not the biggest responder to this one...

does this product perhaps have a cumulative effect? does it need to build up in my system?

strat, boro, mullet, or usplabs, how can I get this to work on me? I did the research on the ingredients, I've exchanged studies with some other people who received the product as well. I know that the ingredients work, and know what to expect from my research, and I know that this is definitely a ground breaking blend.

but damnit; I just want this to work on me, I'm f'ing fat!

it does have a cumulative effect, stick with it..

Are you coming off the use of any high caffeine based stimulants?

[benj851]

not really for the last month the only product with caff I have taken was no shotgun once a day pre w/o. I believe it has 167mg of caff in it. no soda, no anything else.

I just thought this product kinda had an instant kick to it. I was only going to take a few for a review, but I think because of the cumulative effect I'll run the whole bottle now, that way I know for sure that I should stock up when it goes on sale.

I think I am going to run it 2 in the morning, 2 recreate in the afternoon, and maybe an anti-cort. not sure though.

what do you think is better, the above layout. or running at 2 in the morning, 1 in the afternoon, and no recreate?

[Guest]

not really for the last month the only product with caff I have taken was no shotgun once a day pre w/o. I believe it has 167mg of caff in it. no soda, no anything else.

I just thought this product kinda had an instant kick to it. I was only going to take a few for a review, but I think because of the cumulative effect I'll run the whole bottle now, that way I know for sure that I should stock up when it goes on sale.

I think I am going to run it 2 in the morning, 2 recreate in the afternoon, and maybe an anti-cort. not sure though.

what do you think is better, the above layout. or running at 2 in the morning, 1 in the afternoon, and no recreate?

It does have an instant kick but we are all different..

had a friend that is "stim" tolerant or so he claims and he used 2 caps of OEP twice a day and after 5 days he had to reduce the serving to 2 caps once a day....

[Guest]

not really for the last month the only product with caff I have taken was no shotgun once a day pre w/o. I believe it has 167mg of caff in it. no soda, no anything else.

I just thought this product kinda had an instant kick to it. I was only going to take a few for a review, but I think because of the cumulative effect I'll run the whole bottle now, that way I know for sure that I should stock up when it goes on sale.

I think I am going to run it 2 in the morning, 2 recreate in the afternoon, and maybe an anti-cort. not sure though.

what do you think is better, the above layout. or running at 2 in the morning, 1 in the afternoon, and no recreate?

Try 2 in the morning empty stomach for a couple days and 2 recreate later in the day is perfectly fine...I actually prefer this dosing...I cannot use the other cap of OEP later in the day if i want to fall asleep.

[benj851]

day three, two go down the hatch...

[benj851]

Day four. I was thinking of upping to the morning dose to three caps. maybe because i'm a big guy, I need a bigger dose.

Any objections?

[borobulker]

Day four. I was thinking of upping to the morning dose to three caps. maybe because i'm a big guy, I need a bigger dose.

Any objections?

I don't think it has to do with your weight bud, I am hovering around 280-290 and 1 cap is wild, 2 caps is literally out of control.

I'll wait for Jacob to post on this, but I do not think 3 caps would be necessary.

[benj851]

Thanks for the input casey.

[benj851]

so I weighed in today with a loss over 14 lbs. ummmmm thats kinda really really really odd. strength is the same, starting to see more shoulder definition which is very nice

keeping it at 2 in the morning, 2 recreate in the afternoon, and an anti corti 2ce daily.

also I'm sure my almost perfect diet had done quite a bite as well.

However, I still absolutely haven't felt this stuff working at all.

But I guess something is doing something...

[borobulker]

so I weighed in today with a loss over 14 lbs. ummmmm thats kinda really really really odd. strength is the same, starting to see more shoulder definition which is very nice

keeping it at 2 in the morning, 2 recreate in the afternoon, and an anti corti 2ce daily.

also I'm sure my almost perfect diet had done quite a bite as well.

However, I still absolutely haven't felt this stuff working at all.

But I guess something is doing something...

Wow... Exceptional results thus far buddy! Great to hear your strength hasn't dropped!
I too am having some increased shoulder definition. Pretty cool.
Keep doing what your doing!

[Guest]

so I weighed in today with a loss over 14 lbs. ummmmm thats kinda really really really odd. strength is the same, starting to see more shoulder definition which is very nice

keeping it at 2 in the morning, 2 recreate in the afternoon, and an anti corti 2ce daily.

also I'm sure my almost perfect diet had done quite a bite as well.

However, I still absolutely haven't felt this stuff working at all.

But I guess something is doing something...

The stimulant aspect is secondary to the fat burning aspect. You feel it working by the scale.

Your 30 days results should be impressive and We reccomend an almost perfect diet.

How is your appetite?

[benj851]

Appetite, is low the only time I am hungry now is when I first wake up... Other than that I am forcing myself to eat.

I should note that I am on a lowish carb (for me) so some of that loss could be a little bit glycogen reduction.

I do like this product... so far. It will be very interesting to see where I am on the scale next week. (Can't F"ing wait!)

I think this product definitely is helping with the weight. just am not the happiest knowing I'm the only one not burning up (with thermo) from this product. Thats what I meant when I said I didn't feel this product working... but I know that everyone is different. and as long as the weight keeps dropping, I'm going to be even happier not hot, and thinner? can't touch it!

[benj851]

this product can be run for 60 days straight correct?

[jakellpet]

loss over 14 lbs - what period of time?

[AZMIDLYF]

You are not alone BenJ...no thermo for me either but the euphoria and appetite suppression are deffinitely there. Took 2 this morn for the first time so I will see if thermo presents itself.

[benj851]

6 days. jakpellet. thats the weirdness. because I still have my strength. my lifts are still the same.

[vikinginc]

Hmm . . 14 lbs weight loss in 6 days ?! .. Had you been on a high sodium diet prior to starting this product? One can't even hand accredit a water-pill for that amount of weight loss, so there's gotta be another factor involved in it being so drastic, for example an acute change in diet from pre-OEP to on OEP.

[benj851]

not so much, I have been on a cut of some kind or another since feb.

no to the high sodium either. however, I am considering cutting another 500 kcals from my diet starting monday. which would put me in a deficit of 1250 kcals. I'm just not that hungry on this stuff.

not really losing water I think either. because when I was on winabol I got really dried out, and this is no where near that dehydrated.

I know it sounds weird. It really REALLY does, I just can't explain the weight loss away.

oep, recreate, and anti-cort. someone else has to try this to see what happens to them!

[borobulker]

this product can be run for 60 days straight correct?

Yes.

[borobulker]

You are not alone BenJ...no thermo for me either but the euphoria and appetite suppression are deffinitely there. Took 2 this morn for the first time so I will see if thermo presents itself.

See if it increases with time. Mine certainly has.