Enter the Dragon: The Definitive 1-T Tren Log (Sponsored)

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  1. Enter the Dragon: The Definitive 1-T Tren Log (Sponsored)


    What can I say, I'm a creature of habit and a definitive type of guy. My aplogies to the PP guys for the late start to this log. I planned on getting the prelim stuff up over the weekend, but long story short it didn't get done. So here we are, I'll get the prelims up now and I'm already on Day 2. I'll catch up quickly though, so no worries.

    OVERALL GOAL


    RECOMP

    This will be my first-ever shot at a recomp. Normally I don't really buy into the recomp theory, but if 1-T Tren performs like trenbolone then it is possible. I am a little skeptical (is it closer to nandrolone then trenbolone?), but that's what giving it a shot is all about. So within the overall goal of a recomp, I also hope to:

    A) To break my PRs in bench, deadlift, and push press, and dramatically increase my squat (finally mostly healthy after lingering hip issue).
    B) Visibly decrease bodyfat while improving strength.
    C Possibly add some size and LBM (this will be a bonus).


    Background and Stats: Experienced lifter, relatively inexperienced hormone user. I ran 1-AD solo many moons ago, then 1-AD stacked with 4-AD (also many moons ago). Finally, I ran PPs 1-T solo and ended that cycle in January of this year. It was a very good run for me, you can check out the old log here if you are interested (it was unsponsored): The Definitive 1-T Solo Log

    Stats (as 1-rep maxes), all numbers are 100% raw save a belt on squat and push press:

    Lift---------PR---------Current
    Bench-----415--------*405
    Squat-----570(est, 515x3)--*495
    Deadlift-----615--------*600
    Push press--335(est, 295x4)--------*315 (295x2)

    *estimated

    The 1-T run gave me a 5-lb bench PR, a 10-lb deadlift PR, and a huge push press PR (about 30 lbs or so). Can 1-T Tren give me similar results, while at the same time trimming some fat? We shall see.

    Starting weight: 264 lbs.

    Quite frankly, I'm a bit dissappointed in the condition I'm coming in at here. I eased into a cut as I started my 1-T PCT, and by the middle of March I was a carb-depleted 251, my low point in the cut. I was definitely leaner as well. However, being that I'm an accountant, as March gave way to April my already crazy hours got even crazier, and for the last 3+ weeks of tax season, I got to the gym twice a week for an hour, if I was lucky. There was also a lot more eating out, grabbing quick bites here and there, etc. As tax season ended my strength was down enough that I held off on trying to cut anymore so I could come in to this run with a decent strength level. Last Friday I had a great WO, so while it's still a bit off from post- 1-T levels, it's holding close. Anyway, proably half that 12 lbs is glycogen, maybe another lb is LBM re-gained, but the last 5 or so lbs is likely bad weight, from the combination of the not-so-great diet and virtually zero physical activity. So hopefully, the 1-T Tren can really kick off some fatburning.

    Starting measurements:

    Will take these this week and update accordingly.

    Neck
    R arm
    L arm
    L Quad
    R Quad
    Chest
    Waist

    Measurement variables

    Everyone always seems to measure a PF/DSs effectiveness by how much weight they gain. IMO, this can be misleading, especially in a recomp. I will measure success by

    - strength increases
    - the mirror (i.e. noticeable leaning out in before/after pics)
    - controllable sides

    These 3 factors will be the biggest in my overall grade of 1-T Tren at the end of the run.

    Supps


    Staples

    Protein (including PWO shake)
    Fish oil
    Multi (Life Force Men's)
    L-leucine & BCAAs (until I run out)

    *Note: No creatine until PCT. I came off creatine starting in April as I'd been on for a while and I think periodic breaks are a good idea. I will not be using creatine on cycle; I'm hoping it will help with some of the back pump issues I had on 1-T.

    Added for cycle

    Glycobol
    CLA (to help with fat loss)
    Reversitol (1/day at night to start to keep E in check)
    Curcumin (also to aid fat loss)

    Cycle-specific support supps

    L-Dopa
    P-5-P
    1-Carboxy (at night only)
    Vitex
    AI's Cycle Support
    Celery Seed extract
    CoQ10

    I've done quite a bit of research on these Tren compounds, and I think the above should help me keep the 2 biggest side affect issues at bay: elevated BP and prolactin (or E rebound, depending on who you believe) gyno. If anyone has any questions about how or why WRT these supps, don't hesitate to ask.

    PCT


    SERM all the way, as my understanding is shutdown on the Trens is fairly severe. I will again use Torem for PCT, as well as tapering an AI (up then back down). Also, creatine will be added back in, as well as Beta Alanine and a natty test booster.

    Workout regimen


    I will start with my usual 3 on, 2 off routine, but I will be taking all Sundays off. So if a WO is scheduled for a Sunday, everything will be bumped back. I will also try a cardio schedule as follows:

    M-W-F: 20-25 minute run directly after WO (2 days)
    T-Th: light fasted morning cardio (20-30 minute walk)
    M-W-F: HIIT (on the other day that I don't do steady-state cardio. This will be determined by when leg day falls during the week)

    I am considering moving to a M-T-Th-F push/pull routine if my shoulders feel fatigued. Push press/military is the area where I've lost the most strength, strangely enough, as it was the area with the biggest PR from before (or maybe not so strangely). If I am stalling 3 weeks in or so, I may switch things up, but this remains to be seen.

    Diet


    Any cut/recomp attempt needs some dietary discipline, and in my original application, I envisioned keeping carbs very low on non-WO days. Well, I've since changed my mind. Since I will be using Glycobol, in conjunction with the 1-T Tren, 2 straight days of very low carb could be detrimental to progress elsewhere when using these 2 products. So I will keep carbs at slightly below normal levels on non-WO days, and trust in the products I am using to partition the carbs. Therefore, I will be relying strongly on cardio and the products' inherent fat loss capabilities to make up the bulk of the fat loss part of the recomp, although calories will still be below maintenance on non-WO days (approx. maintenance -1k) and above on WO days (approx. maintenance +500).

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    I think that about covers everything. I have a few "before" pics taken yesterday, and either tonight or tomorrow I'll get the rest (mostly back shots, have to get the wife involved or figure out the cameras timer). These will all be up probably Thursday (off night from the gym).
    I'm excited and a bit nervous about this run. I'm hoping for great things, and really hoping I can keep sides at bay. I'll get Day 1 updated soon.

    - Dragon

  2. Reserved for "before" pics


    I went to the gym after-hours on Saturday (05-09). I had a lot more room there and a full length mirror to work with, although lighting was not the best. The 2nd and 3rd pics are from the gym, pics were taken after warming up so a little pump was on. The first pic is the original I already posted, and the 4th is another shot from Monday, 05-04-09 that I managed to get with the cell camera. Until I can figure out how to get actual digital cam pics up, these will hve to do.

    Pics, in order:

    1) Front relaxed, 05-04-09
    2) Bicep 05-09-09
    3) Back relaxed 05-04-09
    4) 1/2 Most Muscular (lol), 05-09-09
    5) "Wheel" 05-09-09
    Last edited by Dragon13; 07-16-2009 at 12:36 PM. Reason: Don't like leaving my pics up on interwebz forever. Anyone reading this log late that wants before/afters, PM me.
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  3. Reserved for "after" pics


    Ok, 3 "after" pics here, all done at home. I did not remember to take similar pics at the gym as I had in my befores, but as I didn't get any bigger, I think these pics do a good enough job of illustrating the decent recomp effect.

    The back pic is kind of crappy, but again, the recomp effect is what we're showing here. If anyone absolutely needs to see the similar flexed after pics from the gym, I'll take them tonight (mid-week 2 of PCT, however).

    1st pic taken day 1 of PCT, second and third taken day 3 of PCT.
    Last edited by Dragon13; 07-16-2009 at 12:37 PM. Reason: See above.
  4. Reserved for Final Review


    1-TT: Final Review

    Better late than never. (Funny, I used the exact same line to open my 1-T review wrap-up). I am into week 2 of PCT, everything is going well. I will review 1-TT with all the same criteria I did with 1-T, as well as update changes in weight, measurements, etc.

    First, my goals heading into the cycle:

    A) To break my PRs in bench, deadlift, and push press, and dramatically increase my squat (finally mostly healthy after lingering hip issue). HALF-CHECK. Bench went nowhere, and I didn't ever test push press, so that part is my fault. Deadlift was a big PR, and I am happy to say that at the end of week 1 of PCT, I worked up to 455x6 squatting. So despite me not testing it, I have to say that my legs did indeed get stronger.
    B) Visibly decrease bodyfat while improving strength. I have to say, despite an imperfect diet the first 3.5 weeks or so, I did appear to lose some fat, and I increased strength in the deadlift for sure, and likely squat as well. So, CHECK.
    C Possibly add some size and LBM (this will be a bonus). NO DICE. See final weight below.

    Lift---------PR---------Current-----New
    Bench-----415--------*405----------405
    Squat-----570(est, 515x3)--*495-----530 (455x6)
    Deadlift-----615--------*600-----635!
    Push press--335(est, 295x4)--------*315 (295x2)----Not Tested

    *estimated


    Starting weight: 264
    Ending weight: 265 (+1 lbs)

    In the view of this being a recomp, I suppose that a mere 1 lb gain for 6 weeks worth of an anabolic is irrelevant as long as fat mass was lost. I think it was, and the weight gain the first few weeks (when I was eating) kind of proves the fact that weight and LBM increases are all still dependent on a surplus of raw materials - food.

    Final Measurements:

    Neck, 20.5" - 20 (-0.5)
    R arm, 19.75" - same
    L arm, 19.25 - same
    L Quad, 29.5" - same
    R Quad, just about 29" - same
    Chest, 52.5 - 51.5 (-1.0)
    Waist, 40.25 - 39.5 (-0.75)

    Interesting. No measurements went up, and the three that went down were all areas where fat loss would be most evident. The chest was particularly surprising, and probably also due to the AI I ran throughout (I store fat in my chest which is an indicator oh high levels of E2).

    All in all, the data supports the theory that it was a successful recomp. And yet...

    1-TT product review. Quick note of explanation: I'll be using 6 categories and rate 1-TT on a scale of 1-10, 10 being best. The standard will be all legal OTC products based upon what I know/have heard about them. For example, Superdrol is generally regarded as the best OTC product for absolute strength, so that would be a 10. H-drol is considered very effective at reducing bodyfat, so they would be highly rated in that category, and so on.

    Strength: 5 Quite frankly, this was the area I was most disappointed in. The word on the street was that the tren compounds were supposed to give large, noticeable strength increases. I noticed some increases, but here's the thing: 1-TT was no better for me in this regard than 1-T. I expected much better gains here from 1-TT.

    Muscular Endurance: 6 Very solid gym endurance, but again, not any better than 1-T. Also, adding the extra day of rest in my split didn't make me feel as if I was doing too little.

    Muscle Growth (new LBM): Incomplete When you only add 1 lb, it's tough to say what the cause is. It may be a big breakfast and constipation. The Inc grade is because I was not eating to grow on this run, and that was by design. However, based on my early weight gains when the kcals were higher, I think it very well could be a decent muscle-builder if calorie intake is there.

    Fat Loss: 9 I have to say, even when I was eating a surplus, I didn't get any fatter, and once I dialed in the diet, the weight came off pretty quick. The noticeable sweating/thermic effect also contributed to this grade. From what I understand, the only other product that might compare is H-drol, but I can say that 1-TT does ramp up the metabolism and would probably be an outstanding cutter, if one were inclined to use AAS like that.

    Side Effects: 3 And here's the kicker: the only reason it wasn't a "1" is because I'm assuming liver toxicity is minimal due to TD delivery. By far the worst sides I've yet experienced in my 4 hormonal runs (although to be fair, the first 3 were all based on the same compound). Lethargy and back pumps I can deal with. Androgenic sides and shutdown are fine too, as long as the gains are equally potent. But add all those to high BP (and, I assume, a wrecked lipid profile), and there isn't much you won't have to combat. I took the precaution of a very strong anti-gyno supplement arsenal, as well as general health support supps, and I think in the end it is paying dividends. But when you basically run the gamut of sides, with a huge spike in BP, and the cycle leaves you feeling like it was "only OK", that's where I have an issue.

    Cost Effectiveness: 1 Because of all the sides one has to combat, I am writing this as if one would prepare as I did, with a long and varied support supplement procedure. If you add all this up, + a SERM because shutdown is severe, + an AI to run alongside (possibly optional for some), and factor in what the 1-TT retails for ($80/bottle, so $160 for the 2 bottles), and you'd be looking at a $350+ cycle, easily. If one wanted to gamble with their health, certainly it could be done far cheaper, but to cover all the bases, at reatil, this is not a cost-effective choice for the gains.

    OVERALL: 5, or Incomplete I was very torn on what grade to give this product, given the gains I got (or didn't get) were mostly a product of my own goals and mis-steps, so I have to tread carefully on what impact the product had in that regard. In the end, it came down to this: given the results (and potential results as a muscle-builder if kcals were in surplus), was this product worth the sides? I kind of don't think so, but maybe had my diet been spot on all 6 weeks I might weigh 252 right now with the same strength levels. THEN it would be a fantastic product. Or maybe I ate to grow all 6 weeks and ended up 275 with little to no fat gain. Great results! But I think I got a little stronger, a little bit more lean, and no bigger. A compromise. The middle ground. Jack of all trades, master of none. This is why I've always been anti-recomp, and after running what I thought might be the best OTC recomp agent out there, I have to say I am once again solidly in that camp. 1-TT is not trenbolone. I'm sure there are people out there who will have great results. But for my goal of a recomp, while in the end the product worked more or less fairly well in this regard, the sides were a little too much for "decent" results.

    If I Could Do It All Over Again...

    ...what would I do differently?

    1) Either bulk or cut, grow or shred - not try both at once. Self-explanatory.

    2) Run max dose of Cycle Support (or similar) throughout, and a 2-week pre-load. Damn expensive, but probably the only way Id run this compound again.

    3) Dial in the diet. No matter what your goals, diet is so much the key it's not even funny. I am learning this more and more with each passing day, and in my years under the bar has probably been the biggest detriment to my progress.

    And that, as they say, is that. Right now I plan on running natty for a good long while, as the total PH cycles done in the last 6-7 months doubled my total for all time. I would welcome any suggestions for some good test boosters (I hear MassFX and Diesel Test) and other "natural" muscle builders (Prime anyone?) from anybody that has used them. Hope the log was informative and enjoyable for all.

    PS - I will post the "after pics" by tomorrow afternoon, latest. I don't have them here (work) at the moment.

    *** FINAL GRADE REVISED AT END OF LOG ***

  5. I am subbing for this.
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  6. THE definitive tren log, eh? Subbed. Lets do this thingy!

    We have almost the same support supps. I'm going to vit. shoppe vitex at 2 caps a day and 100mg p-5-p starting tomorrow. I like your ai strategy also sir.
  7. A few more things...


    A few more things to cover before the Days 1 & 2 updates.

    SUPPS:

    Going to do this a bit different than the last log. I'll actually type out what I take and when, because, well... the list is extensive. I've heard from several knowledgeable people (here and on other boards) who feel the sides with the designer "Trens" can get bad, so support supps are a must. Hopefully by breaking everything down, if people have questions about dosage/timing etc, I can help and also maybe get some pointers from you guys.

    AM

    -Life Force Multivitamin + Biotest Superfood
    -Biotest's Flameout + generic brand fish oil - approx. 5 grams (total)
    -Primordial Performance's CLA - 2 caps
    -Biotest Receptormax (finishing this off before I start Glycobol, as I had some left over and they are designed to do pretty much the same thing): 1 cap
    -NOW Vitex: 1 cap (300 mgs)
    -Vitamin Shoppe CoQ10: 1 cap (100 mg)
    -Vitamin Shoppe Celery Seed Extract: 2 caps (3 g)
    -Vitamin Shoppe P-5-P: 2 pills (100 mg)
    -Nutra bulk L-Dopa: 1600 mg

    Lunch

    -Biotest Receptormax: 1 cap
    -Vitamin Shoppe CoQ10: 1 cap (100 mg)
    -Vitamin Shoppe Celery Seed Extract: 2 caps (3 g)
    -Fish oil (generic): approx. 2.4 g total
    -NOW Curcumin (variety of benefits): 1 cap

    PM (4:00)

    -Vitamin Shoppe P-5-P: 2 pills (100 mg)
    -Nutra bulk L-Dopa: 1200 mg
    -NOW Vitex: 1 cap (300 mgs)

    Dinner

    -Biotest Receptormax: 1 cap (plus another 3 pre-WO)
    -Life Force Multivitamin
    -Biotest's Flameout + generic brand fish oil - approx. 4 grams (total)
    -Primordial Performance's CLA - 2 caps

    Post-WO/Pre-bed

    -Vitamin Shoppe P-5-P: 2 pills (100 mg)
    -Nutra bulk 1-carboxy: 400 mg
    -IForce Reversitol: 1 cap
    -NOW Vitex: 1 cap (300 mgs)
    -NOW Curcumin: 1 cap

    Ridiculous. I feel like I need Ronnie's tackle box to keep track of all this ****. Anyway, I will add in the Cycle Support at the 1-week mark or so, and I'm also adding hawthorne berry. Further changes will be updated in the log as they occur.

    MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:

    Weight will be done on a weekly basis on Mondays, like last time. I've decided to simply do before and after measurements. The befores will be up soon.

    SIDES:

    2) BP - This will be measured weekly as well, although I forgot to get a starting BP. I do know roughly where I am though, so I'll have a general idea if it starts to creep up. If it does, I will measure bi-weekly.

    Think that's it, on to the Day 1 update.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Silver3CSRT8 View Post
    I am subbing for this.
    Big Silver! Good to have ya here. How are things? I checked it periodically on your MMV2 log, glad to hear it treated you well.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Gtarzan81 View Post
    THE definitive tren log, eh? Subbed. Lets do this thingy!

    We have almost the same support supps. I'm going to vit. shoppe vitex at 2 caps a day and 100mg p-5-p starting tomorrow. I like your ai strategy also sir.
    Just being consistent with my PP logs.
  10. 05/04/09


    Day 1


    6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.

    The Good


    SUPPS:

    Supps are the same as listed. Nothing new yet.

    MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:

    Starting measuremernts will be updated soon.
    Starting weight: 264 lbs

    STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:

    N/a, Day 1.

    The Bad

    SIDES:

    N/a, Day 1.

    1) LIBIDO - Fine.
    2) BP - Will get opening value soon.
    3) AGGRESSION - Fine.
    4) HAIR LOSS - None.
    5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - None.
    6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - None.
    7) MISC. - None.

    MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:

    Mood is fine, no lethargy, no other sides to report.

    The Workout


    Chest and upper back.

    10-15 minute warm-up.

    Bench: 225x6 245x6 275x6 295x6 315x6

    Bent over rows: 185x6 205x6 225x6 245x6 265x5

    Floor press: 275x6 275x6 275x6 SS w/ -
    Wide-grip pull-ups: BWx6 BWx6 BWx6 (2-1-2 tempo)

    DB incline: 100x10 100x10 100x9 SS w/ -
    Close-grip Lat pulls (to hit the upper back): 150x10 160x10
    - Face pulls: 160x10

    CARDIO


    22 minutes on treadmill at 3.0 incline, 5.0 speed.

    THOUGHTS:

    This was an OK WO. Nothing special. The last 2 reps on bench were shaky, and all in all my pressing was only so-so. Back work was pretty good, actually got a 6th rep on the last set of rows but I deemed the form to be too poor to count it.

    Anyway, a good frame of reference for where I'm starting.
    Last edited by Dragon13; 05-06-2009 at 04:04 PM. Reason: Code typo

  11. Nice! Good luck dragon! Let me know if you have any questions along the way.

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  12. Quote Originally Posted by Dragon13 View Post
    Big Silver! Good to have ya here. How are things? I checked it periodically on your MMV2 log, glad to hear it treated you well.

    Yeah, the MMV3/2 combo went amazing for the recomp goals I set out to accomplish. The 1-T Trem sounds really sweet and I know I loved the gains/recomp I had on Tren myself.

    I am interested to see how your BP goes on this run. I know mine was elevated, but you have some excellent support supps in place to combat it. Kick some a$$ my man and I will be following along. You posting pics?

  13. Subscribed.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Silver3CSRT8 View Post
    I am interested to see how your BP goes on this run. I know mine was elevated, but you have some excellent support supps in place to combat it. Kick some a$$ my man and I will be following along. You posting pics?
    I will stay on top of it, I hope I've done enough to keep it in check.

    Yes, I will be doing pics. I have a few already (self-shot), but the quality is poor. I was waiting to get some back shots done, but after I played around with the camera last night, I found out it doesn't have a timer. So I asked the wife if she could take a few for me and she called me "gay". Huh.

    Anyway, next 2 nights are off nights from the gym, so I'll get her to snap a few and get them up by the end of the week, my "gayness" notwithstanding.

  15. Subbed! Will try and read this when I have a chance, lots of detail already and I've only got internet at work for the next week
  16. 05/05/09


    Day 2


    6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.

    The Good


    SUPPS:

    Supps are the same as listed. Nothing new yet.

    MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:

    Starting measurements will be updated soon. (TONIGHT I SWEAR)
    Starting weight: 264 lbs

    STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:

    Just Day 2.

    The Bad

    SIDES:

    Just Day 2.

    1) LIBIDO - Fine.
    2) BP - Will get opening value soon. (THIS WEEKEND)
    3) AGGRESSION - Fine.
    4) HAIR LOSS - None.
    5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - None.
    6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - None.
    7) MISC. - None.

    MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:

    Mood is fine, no lethargy, no other sides to report.

    The Workout


    Lower back/legs (deadlift day)

    10-15 minute warm-up.

    Deadlift: 6x4 315x4 365x4 405x4 455x4 495x4 525x4

    Smith front squat: 225x10 225x10 245x10

    Leg extension (1-leg, alternating): 100x10 110x9
    Leg curl (1-leg, alternating): 60x10 70x9 70x9

    CARDIO


    22 minutes on treadmill at 3.0 incline, 4.5 speed (legs were tired).

    THOUGHTS:

    Very happy with the deads. First time over 500 lbs since before tax season. The front squats were brutal too, all in all an excellent session.
  17. 05/06/09


    Day 3


    6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.

    The Good


    SUPPS:

    Supps are the same as listed. Nothing new yet.

    MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:

    Starting measurements will be updated soon. (TONIGHT I SWEAR)
    Starting weight: 264 lbs

    STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:

    Just Day 3.

    The Bad

    SIDES:

    Just Day 3.

    1) LIBIDO - Fine, maybe even up a bit.
    2) BP - Will get opening value soon. (THIS WEEKEND)
    3) AGGRESSION - Fine.
    4) HAIR LOSS - None.
    5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - None.
    6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - None.
    7) MISC. - None.

    MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:

    Mood is fine, no lethargy, no other sides to report.

    The Workout


    Shoulders and arms.

    10-15 minute warm-up.

    Push press: 185x5 205x5 225x5 245x5 275x3x0; 135x10 (standing military back-off set)

    Neutral grip DB tricep press (2-1-2 tempo): 110x6 110x6 110x6(alternating arms last set) SS w/ -
    Barbell preacher curls: 95x10 95x10 95x10

    Neutral grip DB military (3-2-3 tempo, damn it burned) 65x10 65x9x1

    Cybex close grip bench (2-1-2) 200x6 200x6 SS w/ -
    DB hammer curls: 60x8 60x8

    Various rear rotator work...

    Scott press (3-2-3): 160x10 160x10
    DB concentration curls (2-1-2): 40x8x2 40x7x3 - just spent

    CARDIO


    None.

    THOUGHTS:

    I'm not sure why I ended up doing so many slow tempo exercises. I actually surprised myself as I sat here typing it out. All my tricep work was slow tempo? I don't know why I did that. Anyway, a pretty good WO here. My arms were burnt by the end, and I left with a real nice bicep pump. Relatively pleased with the push press, about what I expected.

    I now have an opening gauage on where I'm at in most areas for the start of this cycle(except for squats, which are scheduled for Monday, 1 week in). I'll also get CGB next shoulder/arm day, as well as standing military. That should cover the biggies.

    Next update will be tomorrow, as I'm all caught up. With it I will get the pics and opening measurements up as well.
  18. 05/07/09


    Day 4


    6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.

    The Good


    SUPPS:

    Supps are the same, with one change: I used up the last of my Receptormax and will start up the Glycobol on 05/08/09 (today).

    MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:

    Starting measurements will be updated soon. (TONIGHT I SWEAR)
    Starting weight: 264 lbs

    STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:

    N/a.

    The Bad

    SIDES:

    Just Day 4.

    1) LIBIDO - Fine, maybe even up a bit.
    2) BP - Will get opening value soon. (THIS WEEKEND)
    3) AGGRESSION - Fine.
    4) HAIR LOSS - None.
    5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - None.
    6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - None.
    7) MISC. - None.

    MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:

    Mood is fine, no lethargy. I have noticed that I've been sweating more, I believe this is due to the 1-TT thermogenic effect. Cool.

    The Workout


    None - off day.

    CARDIO


    None. Weather up here has been terrible for a while and it was still raining yesterday morning, so no fasted cardio. I also worked late and by the time I got back, no go on getting anything done at that point. It was a total recovery day, and I think I'll try and get in my first HIIT session tonight.

    THOUGHTS:

    The wife was watching Grey's Anatomy so she wouldn't take pics last night. I WILL have them up tonight however.
  19. Pics


    1st pic: front relaxed, 05/04/09, taken myself.

    I am having some trouble with the other pics. The wife took them on the digital camera, but I keep getting a file size too big error when I try to upload them. I'm tech illiterate when it comes to pictures. How do you get high res digital camera pics uploaded? Any ideas are welcome.
    Last edited by Dragon13; 07-16-2009 at 12:37 PM. Reason: See above.

  20. I upload mine to photobucket, then html it when i do a new post. You can choose the size you want to shrink it to, when you upload it.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Gtarzan81 View Post
    I upload mine to photobucket, then html it when i do a new post. You can choose the size you want to shrink it to, when you upload it.
    I will give this a try. Thanks.
  22. 05/08/09


    Day 5


    6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.

    The Good


    SUPPS:

    One more change: In addition to starting up the Glycobol, I added in stand-alone hawthorne berry, starting at 900 mgs per day, divided into 3 doses.

    MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:

    Starting measurements will be updated soon.
    Starting weight: 264 lbs

    STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:

    N/a.

    The Bad

    SIDES:

    Just Day 5.

    1) LIBIDO - Fine.
    2) BP - Will get opening value soon. (THIS WEEKEND)
    3) AGGRESSION - Fine.
    4) HAIR LOSS - None.
    5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - None.
    6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - None.
    7) MISC. - Back pumps started up towards the end of HIIT. Wasn't too bad though, see below.

    MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:

    Mood is fine, no lethargy. I have noticed that I've been sweating more (1-TT thermogenic effect).

    The Workout


    None - off day.

    CARDIO


    HIIT - 4 100m, 2 150m, 2 220m sprints. Intervals were either walking or jogging (switched every other one). Back pumps creeped in toward the end, but only on half my back? Weird.

    THOUGHTS:

    Relatively uneventful first 5 days. I'm looking for the product to relly kick in by the end of week 2. We'll see.
  23. 05/09/08


    Day 6


    6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.

    The Good


    SUPPS:

    No other changes from last time.

    MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:

    Starting measurements will be updated soon.
    Starting weight: 264 lbs

    STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:

    N/a.

    The Bad

    SIDES:

    1) LIBIDO - Fine.
    2) BP - Opening value soon will be posted on day it was obtained (Sunday 05/10)
    3) AGGRESSION - Fine.
    4) HAIR LOSS - I noticed some shedding this weekend starting Saturday. It was consistent with past a former pretty androgenic cycle (1-AD stacked with 4-AD). However, I did not shed at all on 1-T. So clearly the dienolone either is more active at the AR, or converts better than the 1-Andro. Does anyone have Vida numbers for dienolone?
    5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - None.
    6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - None.
    7) MISC. - Back pumps during HIIT, otherwise fine.

    MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:

    Mood is fine, no lethargy. I have noticed that I've been sweating more (1-TT thermogenic effect).

    The Workout


    Chest/back.

    Rack lockouts (9-slot, low, about 2-3 inches off chest): 315x3 335x3 365x3 385x1x0

    DB row (3-1-3): 110x5 120x4 120x4 120x4 120x4

    DB bench: 120x6 120x8 120x8 120x8 120x7

    Seated row: 220x5 240x4 260x4 280x4 300x3x1

    HS decline: 270x12 270x12 270x12 SS w/ -
    Pull-ups: BWx8(wide grip) BWx7x1(neutral grip) BWx5x2(chins)

    CARDIO


    None. Too pissed off after terrible WO.

    THOUGHTS:

    Awful WO. Rack lockouts were a disaster, was supposed to work up to 405x1-2, but could only get 1 rep at 385. I was just exceptionally weak for whatever reason, proably from lack of sleep. As anyone who followed my old log knows, this is the #1 issue I have in my training. It's hard to get 8-9+ hours every night when you lift late at night and you have little kids too. Anyway, putting this one behind me and hoping the 1-TT kicks in in another week.

    And, just to repeat my question from above: does anyone know the Vida numbers on dienolone?

  24. Subbed..GL bro. Looking forward to your feedback on this since I will be running my cycle in July.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by tyler4 View Post
    Subbed..GL bro. Looking forward to your feedback on this since I will be running my cycle in July.
    Thanks man.

    Also, found this thread on dienolone, very interesting, and in fact I had run across it before: Dienolone & Boldione Testing info

  26. How is the application process? Does the carrier leave any residue on your skin?

  27. Quote Originally Posted by futurepilot View Post
    How is the application process? Does the carrier leave any residue on your skin?
    A bit of a pain in the rear, but worth it to avoid the first-pass liver metabolism IMO. Plus I'm used to it, although I strongly recommend a back scrubber to apply to those areas of the back you can't reach.

    Residue - yeah a little. Best comparison is kind of like a greasy hand lotion where it's not entirely absorbed by your skin after you apply it. But it's not too bad.

  28. Pics look solid man. I also understand the lack of sleep. Between work stress, family stress, home stress, TV, sports and lifting it is hard for me to sleep. I am lucky to get 3-4 hours before waking up the first time for some reason or another. I miss the days before kids and responsibilities where I slept like the dead for 10-12 hours straight.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Silver3CSRT8 View Post
    I miss the days before kids and responsibilities where I slept like the dead for 10-12 hours straight.
    QFFT!!!! (the extra F for emphasis - guess what it stands for)

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Dragon13 View Post
    QFFT!!!! (the extra F for emphasis - guess what it stands for)
    What did I ever do before google and urban dictionary? LMAO.
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