Promagnon Is Back!!! Introducing CEL PMag
- 05-04-2009, 10:01 AM
- 05-04-2009, 10:41 AM
05-04-2009, 12:41 PM
05-04-2009, 03:29 PM
05-04-2009, 03:30 PM
any reason why you think the irritability has gone down? maybe nattural test is starting to suppress?
05-04-2009, 03:38 PM
Good question. On one hand, I suspect it's a bit psychological. There is an aggression enhancing aspect, especially with the TD form. But I'm so aware of it that I've been choosing to not let it interfere with my personality.
On the other hand, I've been sleeping at night (like 5 out of the last 7 nights which is INCREDIBLE for me). So I think the initial irritability might have been from sleep deprivation.
And as you said, sure it's possible that there's some suppression. But from the studies I've seen haven't shown much in terms of Pmag being suppressive. And I have a reliable source (who does not have a hand in the supp industry for bodybuilding purposes) that helped me to confirm and further explain how mild Pmag is on the Hpta.
Either way, I'm full of BS
05-05-2009, 01:18 AM
05-05-2009, 11:48 AM
According to the studies, yes P-Mag is less suppressive than halo. But from my experience, don't chalk that up as a negative to halo because it's a very "friendly" compound too.
Monday, May 4, 2009
3 Cap P-Mag
1 x 2 CEL Form
I had limited time for a shoulders workout today. Motivation was low and I was feeling a little burned out from a long work day. So, I decided to man up, and slam out a shoulder routine in 40 minutes that took me a good 70 minutes last week. No stims either since it was too late.
Even with the time crunch, I still added 5 pounds each side to hammer shoulder presses. And I went from 3 sets of 10 with 120's for shrugs to 3 sets of 15. After the shoulder routine, I did a 1 hour powerball class which is a fun alternative to running on a wheel like a rat for cardio
Gyno lump has NOT returned. No spontaneous sensations have returned either. But sensitivity if I bump it is there occasionally. All in all, CEL's TD form is holding it's own even when I thought for sure the lump was going to win the battle.
05-05-2009, 12:58 PM
I hope that lump stays away for you even after you drop the Form! I'll be keeping an eye on the log for any changes. I'll be running my own TD-Form mix in a couple weeks. I'll be purchasing some CEL Form when it's available.
05-05-2009, 01:11 PM
I've tried a laundry list of "dopamenergic" supps too. The one that I think helped the most was PowerFull, but only if I dosed it throughout the day. The night time only dosing, doesn't cut it.
IMO B6, tyrosine, and Sam-E may have dopamenergic potential. But in my experience, none had any effect on reducing sensations like PowerFull did.
05-05-2009, 01:17 PM
05-05-2009, 01:21 PM
My logic is this... if you're using the stim free Blue Up, it's not doing anything anyway. IMO it's not a productive product. The stimmed version is real nice though, but there's a bazillion other stims without yohimbe and other test boosters. See my logic?
05-05-2009, 01:27 PM
Things are going well. I have high hopes.
I've actually used Blue Up in the past and really enjoyed it. It did more for me than DTH ever did. - Just how it worked.
And no, I'm not sensitive to everything, just hormones. I've ran plenty of NHA stacks without issues even after I used Epidrol to rid my gyno last year. It stayed away the entire time until I used another hormone a month or so ago...I'm always sure to run AI's in conjunction with T-boosters. It's just always how I've done it.
So far things are going good. I'll keep you updated on it and definitely appreciate your advice on everything.
05-05-2009, 01:37 PM
Good deal Irish! The way it sounds now, the form should finish it off
Do you still deadlift in your "homeade" gym?
05-05-2009, 08:21 PM
05-05-2009, 08:23 PM
05-05-2009, 11:56 PM
05-06-2009, 11:23 AM
weren't u the one who used to have some crazy DL vids in a basement gym? Maybe I have you confused with someone else
I have Torem, but only cause I made big purchase a while back. I don't like Torem and won't ever buy it again. It's a libido killer for me and the proposed positive effects on HDL were not there both times I got my bloodwork done. If I had to choose, I'd run Nolva if addressing gyno was my priority. I'd choose Clomid if addressing HPTA was my priority.
Funny thing happened this morning fellas. My gf saw me putting Taurine in my protein shake and she said "that must be SEXY powder. It's about time you took a supplement that actually worked." She pretty much grinded on my leg the rest of the morning while getting ready for work I tell her when I'm ON, but for whatever reason she doesn't believe me LOL
05-06-2009, 12:51 PM
05-06-2009, 01:56 PM
lol must be nice to have the GF supporting ya
gotta a Q : Celc5
I am torn Between Hdrol and Pmag
your having so much fun with this not sure which to choose
going to be stacking mine with Furazadrol
with how you feel so far which would you say would be a better stack Hdrol and Furazadrol or PMag and Furazadrol? I know both will be lean .
dam sorry bout the jack
05-06-2009, 02:25 PM
05-06-2009, 03:26 PM
if it's a cut, I'd go with Hdrol. If it's a recomp either PMag or HDrol would work. If it's a lean bulk, then I'd choose Pmag.
I tell her I'm on cycle even when I'm not though. She just thinks that I waste too much money on supps and she's probably right. But ya, either way she's funny and keeps me on my toes. I'm never bored
05-06-2009, 07:44 PM
learn, that avi is just wrong man...the devil tempted me to watch it and it was yummy lmao
and celc i bet everyone here waste too much money on supps lol
05-06-2009, 08:03 PM
agreed. That's why we need honest logs so we stop wasting money on unproductive supplements. The boards are riddled with BS hype for supps that have little to no effect.
Wednesday, May 6, 2009
3 Caps PMag
1 pump x 3 CEL Form
Back is getting a bit stronger. I've been adding 5 pounds every week to dumbell rows. Now that sounds great, but it's not as impressive to me as adding 5 pounds to my weekly bench based on my own strengths and weaknesses.
Biceps pump was rediculous. The main Biceps vein was popping out 1/2 way through my first WARM UP set of biceps. It usually doesn't make an appearance at least until the end of my first heavy working set. So yes, vascularity is nicely enhanced.
I've been waking up hungry the past few nights. So I take in an extra 40g pro and 40g carbs at like 2 or 3am for the past few nights. Hopefully, that will continue to have a positive effect on body comp.
And to finish off the gf comment from this morning, she can't stand the smell of TD formestane. Whatev... she can get out if she wants to complain
And first side effect was noted over the past 2-3 days. I have a zit on my forehead and chin. Actually, I'm sort of amused by the zits ince I rarely ever have any on my face. Maybe a bit of bacne, but no zits.
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05-06-2009, 08:51 PM
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05-06-2009, 09:01 PM
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