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    Cut/Recomp Exravaganza of Dream's


    Well it's that time... I don't ever like to go to extreme these days bulking/cutting, lets call it different shades of recomp. I do recomp to retain mass and lose fat without losing weight, to gain muscle and weight and lose fat. This time I will try and lose weight and retain muscle hence fat loss only...

    With modern supplementation this is all become possible, yep the rules have changed and for endo's like me recomp is the way to go. Speaking of supplmentation get a load of this lineup.

    Beverly's 7-Keto Musclean 3 caps am
    Beverly's Lean Out 3 caps 1 with 3 largest meals
    Meltdown 1-2 caps am and 1-2 caps late afternoon
    Pslin on high carbs days yah it's going to involve a carb cycle.
    AP on lower carb days and before fasted cardio
    Refresh 3 am and 4 b4 workouts
    DominATP 3 scoops 5 times before workouts
    2 scoops of Jacked mostly on just leg days
    Weeks 1-4 TNT stack Weeks 5-8 Prime 6 ed ramped up to 6/9 dosing
    PGH Staple
    EForm pulsed staple
    Fish oil staple
    Powerfull recommended dosing
    Napalm 2 weeks then Lipoderm 2 weeks then repeat...

    As you can see my supplementation is mainly aimed at fat burn but I also try and make sure I support muscle retention through supplementation.

    The plan is to lose 8-10 lbs in 8 weeks and drop to just under 10% bf while remaining around 240 lbs

    I will be following the carb cycle of High, Med, Low, High, Low, High, Low ... High being 300 grams, med 200 grams and Low 100, I may play with these numbers. Carb sources are Oats, Yams, Rice (parboiled), Ezekiel bread and banana's with some of my shakes. Waxy maize will also make it's way into some of my post workout shakes.

    Lifting will be bodybuilding style super sets drop sets mostly isolated (except squats and sldl) for 4 weeks followed by 4 of slow reps.

    Let the games begin!!
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    Wow, am I actually first...?? *waits*........*crickets chime in*.....nice! Looks like you know what you're doing, so I'll just sit back and take notes

    Good luck!
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    that's one hell of a stack
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhysiqueFreak View Post
    that's one hell of a stack
    x2, but i am surprised he left out recreate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    x2, but i am surprised he left out recreate.
    Man as much as I love recreate, prolonged use causes my vertigo to come back big time. It took my a while to figure out the cause... alas it was my beloved Recreate. I heard good things about Meltdown and actually introduced it last week to climatize myself to it, not much of a stim which is ok by me and there is definite mood elevation. No appetite suppression really which is ok too. It does not do anything for cravings so lets hope that it makes up for it in it's thermo properties.

    Day 1 just fasted cardio with AP ... then carb up meal with Pslin, I am enjoying a nice inflated reactions so Pslin works well for me... Can't wait to hit the iron tommorow.
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    Subscribed. I see you are now on a break from PRIME.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Subscribed. I see you are now on a break from PRIME.
    Yah I will take 4 weeks off and then back on for 4 weeks then one week off then 8 weeks with Prime and DTHC.. my summer is mapped out
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhysiqueFreak View Post
    that's one hell of a stack
    Yep I have been spending too much time at Snags logs and I am becoming a supp whore...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NutriSci View Post
    Wow, am I actually first...?? *waits*........*crickets chime in*.....nice! Looks like you know what you're doing, so I'll just sit back and take notes

    Good luck!
    Welcome aboard .. hey that' s how I learned how to string this many supps together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah I will take 4 weeks off and then back on for 4 weeks then one week off then 8 weeks with Prime and DTHC.. my summer is mapped out
    Tight plan!
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Tight plan!
    Yah that's me a man with a plan...

    I have had a fantastic year and I am serious contemplating a comeback. I will think about hitting the stage next year. God only knows how big I will be by then!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah that's me a man with a plan...

    I have had a fantastic year and I am serious contemplating a comeback. I will think about hitting the stage next year. God only knows how big I will be by then!!
    In for the ride! Probably a ripped 245!
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    Nice looking supplement list you have here, DW. Though I can't say that I could manage to take all those on a daily basis, but more power to you. (I know some will not be ED, and will be added in, or EOD.)

    The Beverly supplements are of interest to me.
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    In! Tear this up, DW!!
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    Stackilicious DW....nice spring fling here!! My ignorance on this but, what is PGH staple?
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    Snag swears by those Bev's, I'm surprised he didn't talk you into their Liver Pills
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    giving us older guys a good representation. give it hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    In for the ride! Probably a ripped 245!
    Man that would be awsome.. the way these supps work anything is possible. I don't like to assume but I do have high hopes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
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    Nice looking supplement list you have here, DW. Though I can't say that I could manage to take all those on a daily basis, but more power to you. (I know some will not be ED, and will be added in, or EOD.)

    The Beverly supplements are of interest to me.
    Yah this is probably my biggest run, it works out to probably around 50 pills a day. This is my first experience with beverly, I had heard good things but never tried them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Stackilicious DW....nice spring fling here!! My ignorance on this but, what is PGH staple?
    PGH is GABBA/GABOB it helps with HGH levels. I use it as a staple, 5 days a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Snag swears by those Bev's, I'm surprised he didn't talk you into their Liver Pills
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    Yah I stole the idea to use them off Snag as he recommended them... I have used liver pills years ago but never saw much from them. Maybe Beverly's are better.
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    Just a brief comment about how my week off treated me... I was definitely doing more calories at the last of my cycle that continued into my week off. I got into some not so good choices but I seem to have gotten away with it. Not only that but like most times I gained some nice mass during my week off of recovery. I didn't weigh myself yet but definitely looks like a couple more lbs. The wife was freaking out a bit saying she has never seen me anywhere near this big. She said it really hit her when I showed her the mass I gained on my legs and then I turned sideways she said she couldn't believe I was showing so much abs and obliques at such a high weight.

    This is my first low carb day, I'll see how that goes. Chest and back tonight.
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    Thank God for DominATP/Refresh... I was on a low carb day and I popped an AP before my workout. I had an outstanding workout. I should have been dead halfway through but I was steady as a rock, and even gaining strenght into the later sets.

    Funny thing is being so carb depleted I thought I'd wake up feeling pretty deflated but I felt quite tight.
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    Ok some details about Chest and back day...

    I started off conservatively as most of you know I am nursing a sore shoulder which incidently is getting a little better more on that later...

    Chest flat db press 90's for 8 drop to 80's by the third set I was doing more reps can't explain why

    Incline flies 60's for 8 drop to 50's again increased reps on 2nd and 3rd sets wtf!!

    Decline db press 80's for 8 drop to 70's again increased reps during latter sets even though I was feeling exhausted...
    All sets were super deep and form was impeccable...

    Back
    Wide lat pulldown 165 drop to 150 for 8's ss Weighted lat shrugs ... man will this pull your wings out

    Reverse grip lat pulldowns 165 drop to 150 started losing my grip near the end of the 3rd set this will improve

    Seated narrow rows 140 for 3 sets of 8

    I was completely exhausted but exilerated as it was a fantatic workout. More volume as I was doing more isolation.

    I gotta tell you I am loving this full feeling, I don't remember ever feeling so tight.

    About my shoulder...I have been doing some stabilization exercises and some new stretches along with the old ones and getting massages for my left side. It's doing some good no doubt. Full recovery is in sight as long as I am very proactive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yep I have been spending too much time at Snags logs and I am becoming a supp whore...
    Heyyyy..
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    Snag swears by those Bev's, I'm surprised he didn't talk you into their Liver Pills
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    I see my reputation preceeds me..
    Love me some liver tabs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagency View Post
    Heyyyy..

    I see my reputation preceeds me..
    Love me some liver tabs!
    There you are, you will be instrumental in this log...

    I already have couple of questions, my first workout was very successful but I did experience some discomfort due to being carb depleted. I know we have been talking about taking AP for fasted training but I am wondering at which point it would be necessary to add in some carbs as I am doing carb fasted training on Tuesdays and Thursdays (them being low carb days)? So far so good though.

    Does AP and Pslin work more efficiently as time goes on as I appear to be getting better response than I was earlier in the week ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    There you are, you will be instrumental in this log...

    I already have couple of questions, my first workout was very successful but I did experience some discomfort due to being carb depleted. I know we have been talking about taking AP for fasted training but I am wondering at which point it would be necessary to add in some carbs as I am doing carb fasted training on Tuesdays and Thursdays (them being low carb days)? So far so good though.
    this is a 'feel' thing, as only you can know when to make this adjustment..
    when the body switches its' fuel source over to fats, there is an adjustment period; the duration of this period is again unique to each individual, but you will adjust to no carbs, trust me.
    Does AP and Pslin work more efficiently as time goes on as I appear to be getting better response than I was earlier in the week ?
    absolutely. the more you use these products, the more efficiently the body will put them to use.

    everything looks solid DW, supps look real nice, anxious to see how this turns out for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagency View Post
    this is a 'feel' thing, as only you can know when to make this adjustment..
    when the body switches its' fuel source over to fats, there is an adjustment period; the duration of this period is again unique to each individual, but you will adjust to no carbs, trust me.

    absolutely. the more you use these products, the more efficiently the body will put them to use.

    everything looks solid DW, supps look real nice, anxious to see how this turns out for you.
    Just the answers I wanted lol... so steady as she goes...
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    Here's a thought about low carb days and workouts... I have been toying with the idea of adding carbs after my workouts and was thinking 1 AP carb fasted, then 400 mg pslin afterwards in 1cup of oats I scoop of waxy maize 2 scoops of Myofusion... oh and a banana. The problem is this would turn a low carb day into a medium carb day lol

    Currently I am doing 3/4 cup of oats am and 50 grams carbs for lunch a carbless dinner then 1 AP about an hour or so later and about 1/2 hour before workout. Then after workout just 2 scoops of protein.
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    Weight training sessions at night?..in that case, you'd be better off utilizing AP for your preWO meal (w/ carbs) and going sans carbs after, just using that protein shake.
    The Pslin load following FT at rising is a great idea, as it's early enough in the day that you'll burn off that larger carb load, but I don't think I'd try that at night on a regular basis (unless you're in ketosis and using that as a carb-up meal)..
    To me tho, the whole idea of a fasted weight training session only makes sense in the morning, before you eat anything. Fasted cardio in the day, now that's a different story.
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