The One bridged with Dymethazine log
- 03-26-2009, 10:50 AM
The One bridged with Dymethazine log
4 years of training, the past year really concentrated.
270g of protein
this is my first log. feel free to give tips and advice towards the log and my cycle
dosage unknown right now
- 03-26-2009, 11:19 AM
That is a crazy looking cycle and I don't think you have enough for your PCT. You should have a SERM in my humble opinion. What support supplements do you have for during your cycle?
- 03-26-2009, 11:51 AM
yea i didnt feel like that was enough PCT...i only picked those bc i see that other people have been using Reversitol as pct for Dy and 2nd Gear as pct for the one
^^^^^do they need any adjustments?
03-26-2009, 12:13 PM
btw....should i start the reversitol when i finish dymethazine and start the one?
or should i save reversitol and use it as a pct at the end of the bridge with 2nd gear?
03-26-2009, 01:51 PM
03-26-2009, 01:55 PM
First, how old are you? That does make a huge difference.
I might look at adding in a bit for PCT, although from what AN has said, 2nd gear is an all encompassing pct in itself. I would certainly do more research on that.
Also, to answer your earlier question, I would hold pct until after the entire cycle is complete. To me it wont be helpful to run it while on the one.
Also, what type of omega product are you using. I would take a look at animal omega. Offers a solid profile with great coverage.
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03-26-2009, 03:11 PM
As stated ^^^^^ hold PCT until after you finish the cycle. What is your PH experience? I would really think about chosing one or the other and just do a 4 week cycle followed by PCT. The one is putting 10-20lbs of lean mass in 4 weeks and dymethazine is basically SuperDrol so that should be a pretty potent run by itself. I don't see much need for running both. If you run dymethazine you will need a SERM in my opinion.
03-26-2009, 03:37 PM
well i was looking at Dymethazine for a bulk then bridge into The One for a recomp. and i have taken several PHs and its been almost half a year since i have done another :/ i have taken: esp, halo-50(the org), m-drol, p-plex, spawn (a mix of tren/esp) and last but not least rage rv5(mix of superdrol/phera/halodrol)
and my only problem is i lost my "connect" for nolva as a pct, which i used for a couple of the previous PHs
Reaper: lol i lost my bottle of omega :'( but im pretty sure its by Nat-Rul health (since all my other dietary supps are from them lol) but since i cant find it im guessing Animal omega is good?
03-26-2009, 04:01 PM
03-26-2009, 04:05 PM
03-26-2009, 04:09 PM
03-26-2009, 05:24 PM
I would follow the other recommendations and split this into 2 seperate cycles. Running methylated compounds for 10 weeks does not sound like a good idea. Also stacking 2 "all in one" PCT products containing AI's, without a SERM, also sounds like a bad idea. Good luck with whatever you do though!
03-26-2009, 09:34 PM
Definitely need more than JUST that for PCT. What about staples? You definitely need to do more research before you head into your cycle.
You DON'T do a cycle of one product and PCT for another at the SAME time.
I suggest that you seriously do some more research/homework and reconsider what you are doing. You shouldn't be asking questions about what to do WHEN you are already doing it. Make sure you have EVERYTHING sorted before you START a cycle, right from Day 1 of your cycle until the last day of PCT, and have ALL the supplements/products that you need/require for that complete cycle/PCT BEFORE starting.
03-26-2009, 09:50 PM
I would highly advise against this. You already have a huge amount of cycles under your belt. I almost weigh the same as you at 5'7. hold off and stay natural for awhile. 5000-7000 cals a day. Then when you have alittle bit more weight you should use these and as 2 seperate cycles , not 1.
03-26-2009, 10:43 PM
that totally makes sense...thank you very much
well i should be getting my order in around april 1st. I will listen to what u folks have to say, i will run Dymethazine for 6 weeks. do u recommend me switch up the dosage???
and do u guys suggest SERM for this cycle? and if so wat OTC product do u recommend?
and i guess i will wait a month or 2 after pct to start The One
03-27-2009, 01:00 AM
03-27-2009, 08:20 AM
03-27-2009, 08:23 AM
dont do this! just run one or the other. at a MAX of 5 weeks trust me you will thank yourself in the long run
03-27-2009, 09:05 AM
What happened to your gains?
You are a lean 180, but with all that down i'd have to think you'd be well over 200.
Splitting the cycles is the way to go for sure, thats just way too long to keep a liver stressed. And although The ONE is not heavily stressing on the liver, its still too long. Still not quite sure how stressing dymethazine is to the liver, but i'm guessing moderately-heavily.
03-27-2009, 09:12 AM
Mon: upper body
Inc DB 12,10,8
Flat Fly 12,10,8
Cable crossover 12,10,8
Wide grip pull down 12,10,8
close grip pull down 12,10,8
one arm DB row 12,10,8
Reverse fly 12,10,8
hyper extension 12,10,8
close grip shoulder press 12,10,8
side raise 12,10,8
front raise 12,10,8
upright row 12,10,8
close grip pull ups 3xto faliure
laying BB curl w/ cable 12,10,8
cable preacher curl (one hand) 12,10,8
incline DB curl 12,10,8
Tri extension 12,10,8
skull crusher 12,10,8
dip 3xto faliure
rack ******* 4x15
forearm roll 12,10,8
lower abs 3x15
upper abs 3x15
Yes I know i have chicken legs, but most people that are 6ft 180lbs of muslce are upper and lower body. I am however 6ft 180lbs of muslce in UPPER body ONLY Besides I do not wear shorts, when i go to the beach i wear jeans. Only time you see my legs are at the gym and on the beach, but im in the water then You can say I am just one of those guys that does not work out his legs.
I picked this routine because over the years I have switched up my routine. My best gains were from this routine. However i do not remember my original routine and this routine takes 3-4 hours at the gym :O TOOO LONGG. (the original took a little over 2 hours which makes me feel amazingggg) If you have any suggestions to shorten my workout please let me know. However, i will still be keeping this idea with M/W/F upper body.
03-27-2009, 09:19 AM
03-27-2009, 09:26 AM
Also yes I am very surprised I am not at 200 now :/ I am what they call a HARDGAINER. Also I gained NOTHING off of my esp, mdrol, pplex cycles
I did however gain (not including weight i lost after cycle) in order of taking: 10 lbs from halo-50, 20lb spawn, 6lbs rage rv5.Thats a total of 36lbs gained on PHs. When i Started working out i was 6ft 140lbs about 4 years ago.
03-27-2009, 09:28 AM
Can you lay out a single day's diet too then? Actuals, not plan
03-27-2009, 11:06 AM
If you are going to go SERMless, I would recommend The One over Dymethazine. I can't see not having a SERM available for SuperDrol. That being said I ran my first cycle of M-Drol without a SERM and luckily did not have any negative issues, but I wouldn't do it again. From what I have read, if you eat 4000+ calories there is no way you won't gain a solid 10+lbs on The One.
03-27-2009, 11:35 AM
03-27-2009, 11:54 AM
First off silver, I am asking you are there any SERM products that are OTC? (im guessing not :'( )
Also I did not really get any bad side effects except for the gyno which I got from the Spawn
Also i just took the time to write everything down and do my calculations and I realized im low on Protein and HIGHHHHHH on calories, and idk wat the suggested amount for carbs is.
I will post up my diet when I get home, I'm on campus right now.
03-27-2009, 12:04 PM
cool, diet is totally critical to success, regardless of what supplements/products you are using
03-27-2009, 01:26 PM
03-27-2009, 01:37 PM
03-27-2009, 01:46 PM
Your post history indicates you were under 21 as of December '08. The fact that you've run so much at such a young age is a reason for concern.
Don't run either. Seriously. Take a step back dude.
03-27-2009, 01:49 PM
03-27-2009, 01:51 PM
Here is my diet, I am a full time student.
Note that my 6th meal changes. The meal will range from steak to chicken to a hamburger to whole grain pasta to fish. However it is usually what I have posted.
03-27-2009, 02:17 PM
see attached document
I should not have any problems with that then check my cal intake. Also different people say that I should have 1g or protein per lb and some say 2g. My diet is around 222 giving me about 1.2g per lb (I believe i should step that up). However are my calories too high? And what is your opinion on my carbs?
I believe this may be true. Back in highschool one of my "friends" told me about halodrol-50. I thought he was a good friend and trusted him. Took it gained 10lbs. The End. No PCT no nothing :/ You can pretty much imagine what happened after that. And after doing a cycle of spawn in the summer (gaining the 20) and then PCTing it. My body wouldnt gain a SINGLE lb from sept to jan (4 months) That is why I am guessing my hormones are a lil messed up.
03-27-2009, 02:42 PM
Honestly this is just friendly advice not an attack of any sort, your proposed cycle is a no-no just makes no sense to run both, both are strong an will give great gains on their own hell im up 20 pounds on day 19 of my cycle of the one. Not to mention the stress on your body.
Also touching on something Easy said you've run all those cycles an you still only weigh 180?? Like gator said maybe take a step back and forget about the one an every other ph/ds right now and start looking at getting diet an training down the routine you posted is a joke, Fix those TINY details first.
Listen to these guys their trying to help you out good luck.
03-27-2009, 02:45 PM
lol im guessing i g2 repeat myself again...I WILL ONLY BE TAKING DY I AM GOING TO SAVE THE ONE FOR THE FUTURE PLZ STOP TELLING ME TO "PICK EITHER OR"
but anyways....any suggestions towards my diet?
03-27-2009, 02:52 PM
in general its pretty good, a little dirtier than I like. but only by a hair. the things I noticed are
Little to no healthy fats? even tho pb is low fat, i'm not sure whether they've added hydrogenated oils while taking out the peanut oil.
Also soy milk instead of regular milk? allergies?
03-27-2009, 03:12 PM
And yes I am allergic to casein but the side effects are minor. The effects tend to change from time to time. As of now if i were to have dairy, nothing would happen, as far as i know. The effects usually go around in a circle, but now I do not notice anything??? hmmm ohwell....So i try to stick to soy milk. Plus its high in protein
03-27-2009, 03:29 PM
You don't train legs and you are wondering why you aren't over 200 pounds? hmm... yeah... Maybe since you aren't 21, i'm assuming this considering you still have yet to answer the question of your age, you should hold off on the steroids and get a proper workout. You're missing out on a tremendous amount of total body growth by neglecting squats and deads, like wearedbleedblue suggested.
03-27-2009, 03:36 PM
Doing the math backwards from what you have
4817 cals - 888p =
3929 - 2524 =
1405 cals from fat / 9 = 156g, but I just don't see 156g worth of fat there honestly, but what is there isn't necessarily the best fats at the same time.
So i'd switch the reduced fat skippy for a full fat all natural pb (i tend to recommend Naturally More, its cheap and in most Walmarts) and maybe go back over your numbers as I think something is off.
have you put them into Fitday.com ?
03-27-2009, 05:40 PM
^^^ I agree with these guys. By failing to do legs and exercises such as squats and deadlifts you are failing to utilize your natural gaining potential. Working the full body produces more anabolic hormone than just doing the upper or lower body alone;, as well as recruiting more motor units, and the more motor units recruited per session will have a greater increase in neural activity, which will train your body to work more effectively as a whole (Heyward, 2006). Squats especially are one of the best exercises for gaining muscle mass!Originally Posted by eggplant21
I'm also not sure WHY you would want to be unproportional and have a huge upper body.
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