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    LETS GET LEAN!!



    Hey guys. I have been lurking the forums for about 3 months now,gaining as much information as I can possibly read. I was leaning on the verge of running a cut/recomp H-Drol cycle. I have decided against that ( 75% I didnt have the 200$ to throw down as I just paid my car payment and rent). The other 25% is that I am still getting my training and diet in check. After reviewing a bunch of logs, I just placed my order for the Body Transformation Pack from PAL. ( and a bottle of xtend becasue I really wana try the stuff!). I am really excited to start this log as it will be my first and hopefully some of the friends I have made on AM will join in for my fun.


    A little about me: I'm 21 years old. I played football and rugby in high school, rugby in college up until sophmore year. During practice, I rolled to the left and got slammed. I heard a crack, couldnt walk..looked down and my bone was sticking outta the side of my ankle. What was attached to that bone you ask? Well, part of my akilees tendon. I went through surgery after surgery and about a year and a half of rehabilitation. During these times, I drank heavily, smoked heavily, and did some crazy drugs. No gym for me.

    My breakfast consisted of dunkin donuts, taco bell lunch, wendys dinner. I gained about 40 pounds and it was all fat.


    Welp, 4 months ago I got off my fat ass and got up the stregth and courage to start going back to the gym. Slowly but surely the fats comming off ( started off at 250, now down to 215). Id say my BF is around 20-25%. I always worked out, but I never ate what I should of, and I never really followed a routine ( because I had rugby 6 days a week, just went to the gym for added strength).

    ANYWAYS, sorry about that book, but here is my plan:

    Run this stack for 4 weeks, and a **** ton of cardio izza:.

    Im at the gym 6 days week, sometimes even 7. 1 of those days is usually dedicated to just cardio.

    The "GYM" I go to sucks. Because of all this me being broke BS (I decided it was a good idea to spend 1000$ in exhaust and 2000$ on a sound system for my car),I was forced to cancel my 40$ a month membership and go to planet fitness ( I know, its legit miserable, but its all I can afford until I save up for a few weeks and go back to Mikes Gym).

    I run something like this-
    Day1- Arms
    Day2- Shoulders
    Day3- Chest
    Day4- Back
    Day5- LIGHT LEGS- I am still very weary about my ankle. Hense why I refuse to do heavy squats(atleast for a while).
    Day6- OFF/ Cardio

    Rinse/ Repeat


    I am working on my diet as we speak. I will post up what I think I should be utilizing, and I would like you to critique it. For the next few days until I wait for my order, I will post up my diet/ routine and I would love for feedback!


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    Ne Whose...its gonna be a bump ride, but I'm so ready for it

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    Hey Spres Im in for your log. Hope you enjoy this stack it's pretty nice! Good call on doing this over h-drop recomp as you said still Getting things in order. Definitely utilize some HIIT cardio to burn off that fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chargerfball25 View Post
    Hey Spres Im in for your log. Hope you enjoy this stack it's pretty nice! Good call on doing this over h-drop recomp as you said still Getting things in order. Definitely utilize some HIIT cardio to burn off that fat.
    Thanks Bro! Im actually doing about 20 Minutes moderate HIIT when I'm at the gym everyday and Im already looking leaner
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    Nice! You'll love the effects of the stack on cardio with increased endurance and less lactic acid. Great job getting back in the gym btw. Your injury made me hurt from the description haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chargerfball25 View Post
    Nice! You'll love the effects of the stack on cardio with increased endurance and less lactic acid. Great job getting back in the gym btw. Your injury made me hurt from the description haha.

    Hurt is not what it was. It was the most awful pain ive ever experienced in my entire life. Imagine a big boy like myself crying out loud for his mom and throwing up at the sight of his bone and ligaments sticking out.
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    Damn lol all I can say about that. Where you from Pres?
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    Well, I feel like if I log what I eat all day it will be easier to keep track..so heers what we got so far.

    Low Carb Egg Bagel- Vegtable Butter spread

    fat free cajun turkey on lavash wrap, jalepenos, mustard, 1 piece of fat free cheese.

    i got a low carb protein bar, and 2 scoops of whey I managed to grab, as well as an apple..so thatyll be meal 3 :-D
    I woke up wicked late and had no time to make food, so tommoro my ish will be in check.

    didnt realize but I guess i had a chicken sandwhich from yesterday, so im eatin that and this myoplex protein bar

    brings this meal around 600 calories- 38carbs 70.5 protein 16.2 fats
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    Well if anyone was interested, I am following the scivation game over workout plan. ( not exactly to a T, but pretty dam close to it).

    looks a lil somethin like this, while alternating workout A and B every other week.

    15,12,10,8
    AFlat Bench Press
    Incline DB Press
    Flat DB Flies
    High-Pulley Cable Crossovers
    Ab Workout #1
    Decline Crunches 3 X 8-12
    Back Extensions 3 X 8-12

    Chest Workout B
    Incline Barbell Press
    Flat DB Press
    Incline DB Flies
    Low-Pulleys Cable Crossovers
    Ab Workout #2
    Lying or Hanging Leg Raises 3 X 8-12
    Torso Twist 3 X 8-12

    Back Workout A
    Pull-Ups
    Bent Over Row
    Lat Pull Down
    Straight-Arm Pulldown

    Back Workout B
    Chin-Ups
    Deadlifts
    Lat Pulldowns
    Seated Cable Row

    Delts + Traps Workout A
    Military Press
    DB Side Lateral
    Bent Over Cable Lateral
    Barbell Shrug
    DB Shrug

    Delts + Traps Workout B
    DB Shoulder Press
    1-Arm Cable Lateral
    Bent Over DB Rear Lateral
    Behind the Back Barbell Shrug
    Reverse Pec Dec

    Arms+Calves Workout A
    DB Hammer Curl ( seated incline)
    Close Grip Bench
    Cable Curl
    Tricep Pressdown
    Standing Calf Raise
    Seated Calf Raise

    Arms+Calves Workout B
    DB Curl
    Skull Crusher
    Reverse Cable Curl
    Reverse Tricep Pressdown
    Seated Calf Raise
    Standing Calf Raise

    Leg Workout A
    Squats
    Stiff Leg Deadlift
    Leg Extension
    Leg Curl
    Ab Workout #2
    Lying or Hanging Leg Raises 3 X 8-12
    Torso Twist 3 X 8-12

    Leg Workout B
    Hack Squat or Front Squats
    Leg Press
    Seated Leg Curl
    DB Lunges
    Ab Workout #1
    Decline Crunches 3 X 8-12
    Back Extensions 3 X 8-12
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    Looks like a pretty good workout to me. I am in need of changeing up my workouts soon as well.
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    K..so ive been reading legit ALL morning, and im going with the CKD diet.

    im still working on what im eating, but for non carb days it will be around 2295 calories.

    ill have a nice excel sheet up later if anyone is interested
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    CKD has always interested me. Seems to have a lot of good feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    sUBBANGLEOOOPOPSHABANGEHEEYELL OWSNOWBALOO.

    Have a great time buddy im here all the way!!!

    glad ya made it russian :-D nutra just shipped my order im gonna hunt that fedex guy down so its here by friday and i can start on mondayyyyyyyyyyyy!.

    and ya charger ive seen nothing but good things. ive legit spent about 6 hours today at work ( <--haha) just reading about it. its really interesting, and when I get home ill get to look at the nutritional facts of the foods Id like to eat. and figure it out from there.
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    AIGHT. Well it took me a buncha time, but I think I finally got what I want down. Check it out! I should be recieving the PAL stuff by tommoro ( I hope!!). Gonna start it up on Monday if i do!

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    check out sheet 2 for what im eatin on no carb days
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    Great diet breakdown!!
    Think training's hard,. try losing!
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    thx bro..spent alot of time over the last 2 days putting it together and al lthe math gave me a headache :-x
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    ahh thought id update this thing after my workout..

    well basically it was the worst day at the gym EVER. I didnt really get to eat **** today and coincidently I had no carbs except for a g2 I had to buy at the gym cuz i was dying.

    i did back and bi's and i was prob down 10-15 pounds on EVERY exercise I did. Thomas suggested that this was cuz of the calories and id have to agree.

    breakfast I had half a banana, then throughout the day I had some pork strips and then some chicken sausauge..bout it

    my PAL stuff should be here either sat or monday, and I plan on getting hardcore into it monday. hopefully my ****ty gym experience wont happen again
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    Happens to the best of us Spres, just gota bounce back and make sure you hit it twice as hard next ime your in the gym! I remember how ready I was to get my stack.....almost ambushing the fed ex truck haha
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    meal 4 u have just protein and carb (oatmeal and whey) I have read in an article that it is bad as it increases fat storage. Every meal should have healthy fat in it.. again I am no expert just something I remember reading let me try and find it for you bud

    by the way.. gangsta ass excell sheet you got there.. i think ima steal ur layout and outline mine...
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    found it.. here is the excerpt

    Never Combine Carbohydrates and Protein

    The fact of the matter is, by utilizing this approach, the insulin spike is
    dramatically minimized and the carbohydrates will do what we want them to do, refill
    glycogen stores and support healthy thyroid function. When you combine fat and
    carbohydrates, the fat slows down the bolus entry into the small intestine, reducing transit
    time while providing an appropriate insulin response. When you combine protein and
    carbohydrates, it sends insulin skyrocketing and can lead to the last thing you want when
    dieting, fat storage!
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    I am not sure how oats and whey would increase fat storage in any way or form, so interested to see what you have there. You have a 99% bioavailable protein and probably the number one carbohydrate source for grains that is Low GI/GL and provides good fiber. Also John Beradi (as well as others) has promoted diets that purposely dont mix Fats and Carbs. Advocating P+C and P+F meals only.

    Judo who wrote that? And where is that from??
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    The combination of carbohydrates (especially something like Oats) with protein would not increase an insulin spike. In fact it actually may diminish it.

    On another note if you combine fast acting carbs with fats the fat will in fact blunt some of the insulin response. But even then an insulin spike with a lot fat will send the fat directly into storage!
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    got it from a e-diet book written by Chuck Rudolph MEd, RD,Marc Lobliner, Derek Charlebois, and Layne Norton (at least thats what the cover says) again I am not 100% sure if its true, you know the internet is full of all sorts of crazy nonsense, it is just what I had read and was passing it along to help him out

    the book even goes on to say
    Do not combine carbohydrates and protein alone because this elicits the
    highest insulin response. For example, a cup of oatmeal has a moderate
    insulin response, but when you combine oatmeal with chicken, you get a
    much higher response. If you do combine these, be sure to add a fat
    source such as almonds or avocados.
    The book goes on to repeat the same principiles thoughout the book... here is a link
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    Thats interesting Derek and Layne are no dummies....Id hate to be a nobody who disagrees But I will ha.... that goes against many physiological and nutritional information I have ever learned. It even goes against the bodybuilding sacred Postworkout shake

    What would a meal of only carbohydrates and fat be like lol gotta have protein!
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    Is there any more explanation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chargerfball25 View Post
    It even goes against the bodybuilding sacred Postworkout shake
    then you will love this...

    Just Say “NO” to the Post Workout Insulin Spike

    Our opinion may upset people but here it is. We do not recommend a postworkout
    (PWO) shake when the activity is for physique purposes. We would rather provide
    aminos (Branch Chain Amino Acids (BCAA) during the workout to help reduce muscle
    tissue catabolism and provide energy. If you do not have BCAAs during your
    workout/cardio training, then we recommend Scivation Whey (protein only with no
    carbohydrates) PWO to get the body into an anabolic state. When you hop off that cardio
    machine postworkout, get home and eat your next meal around 30-45 minutes following
    your training session.
    If you are a performance athlete (hockey, tennis, soccer, basketball, etc), then a
    PWO shake with carbohydrates and protein would be ideal to replenish glycogen stores
    and get the body recovered for the next days training or event. This is irrelevant because
    a performance athlete would not be on a Cut Diet. The goal for this athlete is
    performance and the goal of the Cut Diet is physique. Therefore, a performance athlete
    may even get Carbohydrates during their workout depending on the intensity. Many
    people we do diets for are looking to reduce fat. Therefore, maintaining as much muscle
    tissue as possible in a lowered caloric state is our goal. In the Cut Diet, we control insulin
    to enhance fat loss and even our carbohydrate meal keeps insulin under control. Thus, the
    last thing we want on this diet is to spike insulin!
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    Oddly enought.....I don't completely disagree with that haha I usually have oats+Scivation whey (ironic) after my workout and many times Xtend During and even after if i run out of whey. Also on an extreme cut using high dose (20-30g) of glutamine in my shakes instead of any carbs works great. The insulin spike is overarated I think and actaully could be unhealthy depending on who you ask.

    Interesting though....PWO shake with carbohydrates and protein would be ideal to replenish glycogen stores

    They said earlier combining protein and Carbs wouldnt do this...
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    yea I had read that book.

    but i decided to see what all the hype is about this CKD stuff so im gonna be hardcore hittin that up on monday
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    Remember, that glycogen is able to replenished over a long period of time depending on how much stored carbohydrates you already have. While lifting and repairing, glucose is shuttle to the muslce, soooo... if you have higher glucose stores, this can still work for you to an extent.

    That is PART of the reason for the CKD carb load. You have this pool of glycogen ready to aid you in your heavy workouts early in the week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chargerfball25 View Post
    Happens to the best of us Spres, just gota bounce back and make sure you hit it twice as hard next ime your in the gym! I remember how ready I was to get my stack.....almost ambushing the fed ex truck haha

    dude legit they wont update it im gonna run down to GA and grab that **** myself im so antsy
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyKid57 View Post
    Remember, that glycogen is able to replenished over a long period of time depending on how much stored carbohydrates you already have. While lifting and repairing, glucose is shuttle to the muslce, soooo... if you have higher glucose stores, this can still work for you to an extent.

    That is PART of the reason for the CKD carb load. You have this pool of glycogen ready to aid you in your heavy workouts early in the week.

    gotcha. i think im just feeling like **** because I havent eaten anything in the last 2 days. i really dont know what it is i think im getting sick
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    wooooooooooooooot.

    got my stack and xtend in today. starting this bad boy tommoro!!
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    good luck .. wish you the best.. so are you going to be doing the CKD diet? I was thinking about trying it out, either that or the TKD diet but I cant seem to find as much info on that one.

    anyway cant wait to hear how this works out for ya bud!!
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    yea bro startin it out today. i gotta go shoppin but i made due with what i had..

    woke up around 11. took 1 cap of LR and 2 caps of AE. I must say I got a nice feeling of well being right about now, dunno if thats placebo but i sure dont mind it!

    had 1 serving of reg pepperoni. made a 3 egg omlete with chese and such nice franks red hot..

    bout to head to the gym in about an hour after i finish eating, will post the report up when im finished!
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