OmegaX Havoc Log - MMa, 1 hour bike, 4-5x lift + pictures b4 and after

[omegax]

After reading for a couple of days/weeks i jumped and took the 99$ special havoc cycle support post cycle combo.

A little about me:
I played football through college. Weight about 200+ since I was 17. Im currently a mixed martial artist with about 10-12 amature fights. I'm 6'0 and weight 228. (updated weight to 228 as of sunday 10-19-08)

My goal is to weight around 235+ with less than 12% body fat this will take a while obviously since im sure im around 20% body fat.


This is what I will be taking

Havoc
10(first day)20(2 days)30(rest of week)/30/30/40

Support supplements:

• Taurine 2-3mg before workout and after
• Fish Flax Borage Oil (omega 3 6 9) 2 morning 2 evening which is about 800 mg fish oil 800 flax
• DHEA 25mg per serving with 140mg calcium (each serving) 1 a day
• AI Cycle Support 1 scoop morning 1 scoop evening
• Protein Shakes Optimum Nutrition 3 times a day

PCT

• AI Cycle Support 1 scoop morning 1 scoop evening
• AI Post Cycle Support 2 am 2 pm
• DTH Whatever it says in the bottle
• Fish Oil from above
• Creatine Mono 5g before workout
• Protein Shakes Optimum Nutrition 3 times a day

Exercise
I will be biking to work about 3-4 times a week (40 min bike ride)
I train in MMA about 4-5 times a week for about 1-2 hours.
and I lift about 3-4 times a week for about an hour


Questions I have

1. Is that DHEA ok to take? I know it says to take 150-200 mg to support libido im on day 3 havent had any issues w/ the girlfriend yet. Each serving has 150mg calcium and 25mg DHEA so ive only taken 1 a day so far.
   
2. Is that fish/flax/borage oil ok? It's a walmart Rexall brand
   
3. Where did you guys buy taurine locally dont want to wait on shipping havent taken it yet, didnt see any at walmart, any brand good?
   
4. Cycle support is DISGUSTING ! haha any mixes you guys put it in to help w/ this? Ive been putting it in like a shot of water, then following it up w/ a protein shake
   
5. Should I maybe lift more than 3-4 times a week?
   
6. Should I cut the bike riding while on this cycle?

I started eating about 5-6k calories a day this friday. Today I will do the 30 mg havoc I did 20 mg yesterday and I woke up feeling great today very motivated, not sure if mental or all the supplements im taking.

Some pictures will take some updated ones and change these (these might be anywhere from 1-3 months old) (my tat has been since finished for the most part)

Well I cant post pictures since I dont have 20 post but i will shortly:bruce2:

I can post pictures now, theres were taken at a bad angle so im looking chunkier

[omegax]

I need 13 post so im going to look around other topics and post some things then ill post my pictures

[Chub]

subbed! how old are you btw?

Have you looked into Gut Health by RPN? Its great along with a bulk! Its taken my bloat way down and i'm maintaining a 4k diet at the moment

[omegax]

subbed! how old are you btw?

Have you looked into Gut Health by RPN? Its great along with a bulk! Its taken my bloat way down and i'm maintaining a 4k diet at the moment

Gut health huh? I heard about it, ill look into it - I do have some bloat issues im 22

[omegax]

Im finally able to post pictures, lots of good reads on this forum
Updated pics to main post

[omegax]

I will take some pictures with my shirt off and legs so I can get some good before and after pictures im exited and feel real pumped to lift today I will also take my BF % today at the gym

[Orangepeel]

5-6K calories seems pretty excessive for 225lbs @ 20% and trying to get to 12%.

When I ran my Havoc cycle I Gained weight and leaned out at the same time all while eating maybe 4-5K calories/ed, this was basically all clean foods, except the weekends when I slacked off (this seems to be a tough habit for me to break).

Havoc is some STRONG stuff man, and it seems awful easy to cut fat while on it and even easier to gain muscle mass. I think if you drop your cals, go maybe 3-400 over maintenance, you'll be able to cut some serious fat while gaining all the mass you would at 5-6K

[omegax]

5-6K calories seems pretty excessive for 225lbs @ 20% and trying to get to 12%.

When I ran my Havoc cycle I Gained weight and leaned out at the same time all while eating maybe 4-5K calories/ed, this was basically all clean foods, except the weekends when I slacked off (this seems to be a tough habit for me to break).

Havoc is some STRONG stuff man, and it seems awful easy to cut fat while on it and even easier to gain muscle mass. I think if you drop your cals, go maybe 3-400 over maintenance, you'll be able to cut some serious fat while gaining all the mass you would at 5-6K

thanks for the advice bud, im really thinking about that as well.. i mean I calculatd what I was eating for today ... and well the week and was roughly at 3400 calories w/ like 220 protein how does that sound ? I have some l-arginine laying around should I even bother w/ it ?

[mixedup]

I'd get alot more protein in if I was you at least 300grams at your weight some people would take in 450 but personally i have never needed 2grams per lb. What state are you out of? I am in CA and dreading the CSAC testing lol

[Orangepeel]

I dont "count calories" I'm not a professional BB and don't see the need to. I eat 5 meals a day, I shoot for 50G of protein in each and switch up the carb/fat intake depending on my goals.

[cakez]

Hey bro! I'm gunna watch this one as I just started my cycle and I'm very similar to yours!

As far as your eating... I'm shooting for around 5K cal. and to be very clean..

And the Cycle stuff, if your using ON products I mix mine with 2:1:1 chocolate and I don't really taste it...actually makes it pretty good ( If you got choco. Cycle.. )

Check out my log too,

haVoc log... (should be good)

[ndnguy85]

subbed.

good luck bro.

[omegax]

I'd get alot more protein in if I was you at least 300grams at your weight some people would take in 450 but personally i have never needed 2grams per lb. What state are you out of? I am in CA and dreading the CSAC testing lol

yep im in CA too lol - not worried about csac since i dont have a fight scheduled in the near future anyways, got some minor cuts and stuff that will keep me out for like 2 months or so ... dunno

I just got back from the gym and going to eat some fish ! Ill post about my adventures in the weight room and mma class tomorrow at work (i work as a computer tech and dont do nothing but sit in front of a computer all day )

[omegax]

I dont "count calories" I'm not a professional BB and don't see the need to. I eat 5 meals a day, I shoot for 50G of protein in each and switch up the carb/fat intake depending on my goals.

sounds good bro im going to try and incorporate something along these lines thanks for the input !:clean:

[futurepilot]

Im currently 25 years old weight 225 and 6'0 tall.

My goal is to weight around 235+ with less than 12% body fat this will take a while obviously since im sure im around 20% body fat.

Are you trying too reach your goal this cycle? Or just in general.

[omegax]

Are you trying too reach your goal this cycle? Or just in general.

In general not expecting that much from the sups - just an extra boost :bruce2:

[omegax]

DAY 1
Did my workout yesterday, my knee was hurting a bit from the grappling tournament over the weekend so I did chest/shoulders instead of legs (squats) I ussualy do on mondays

Incline Barbell 3x10 225 245 265
Decline Barbell 3x10 225 225 245
Lateral Bench 3x10 180 lbs (4 45lb plates)
Upright rows 3x10 135 lbs
Shoulder Press 3x10 160 lbs (machine)

Not as much as I like to do but got it done in about an hour or so

As far as my calories go as far as the calorie counter goes it says I ate 2700 calories 230 g protein 250 carbs 76 fat going to try and up the protein and calories today have to stuff my face with food for sure!

Also did 1 1/2 hours of mma training which consist of push ups situps burpees grappling with other people good cardio session.

Things I noticed that day was lots of energy in the morning (willing to get up and make breakfast) and not as tired at the end of the day after MMA training ussualy I shower and goto sleep but I had enough energy to go shopping for more food.



Today I hope to up the food intake take a rest from weights, and goto MMA class tonight. Need to work on my transam a bit got some new DRL for it

[omegax]

Ok i got some good before pics taken on monday and as of today i've actualy lose about 2-4 pounds (you know scales)

I weighted in at 228 on sunday morning and im at 224 right now


Ill update original posting

[Chub]

Ok i got some good before pics taken on monday and as of today i've actualy lose about 2-4 pounds (you know scales)

I weighted in at 228 on sunday morning and im at 224 right now


Ill update original posting

i wouldn't worry about it, my weight is up and down like a yo-yo! use your mirror to track progress

[omegax]

DAY 2
Me and my friend actualy did end up working out yesterday (tuesday) although we thought we wouldnt we just did it at a later time (8 oclock) he started a creatine cycle same time as I started this cycle (he has high blood pressure so he cant do ph or designers)

We decided we would try and really squeeze our chest/shoulders since we both felt we cheated ourselves (first time working out together maybe just trying to push more weight less form?)

So we decided to start over with good form (i know probably should have hit something else) Anyways heres what we did and incredibly (before the workout) I actualy weight 224 now so that means i've lost around 4 pounds in 2 days...

Incline Press 3x10 150 (machine)
Lateral Press 3x10 4 45 lb plates
Shoulder Press 3x10 50 lb dumbells
Shrugs 3x10 135 Barbell w/ 45 pound plates
Lat raises 3x10 15-20-25 pounds dumbells
Front Raises 3x10 15-20-25 pound dumbells


I felt great that day, had 1 hour of mma before the weightlifting (ussualy do weights about 3-4 hours before mma but did what we could)

I was no where near as tired as I ussualy am after MMA class normally I shower and goto sleep, but today I was awake enough to lift weights then go get some food too. Not sure if its mental, the havoc, or the supporting sups but I love it!

Im taking a log book with me to correctly log the weights since im not 100% sure on them.

Today im looking to do back/deadlifts and 1 hour of mma OR 1 hour jog at night