Applied Nutriceutical's Osteo Sport
- 09-04-2008, 02:24 PM
Applied Nutriceutical's Osteo Sport
Well, the long awaited osteo sport from an came out a little while ago and i sprang on that like a fly on sh1t. I am in the process of letting my left shoulder joint recover/improve, and also unfortunately trying to heal my biceps tendonitis.
In two weeks, i used a bottle of USP's super cissus rx, dosing it around 6 caps a day. sometimes 4, sometimes 9, but mainly at 6. i had tremendous results. my joint doesnt click nearly as much, and my tendonitis, even with shoulder movements, is hardly noticeable anymore.
Now, ive got some more ammo with osteo sport. ill be doing bi-weekly updates on my shoulder and tendonitis.
ill be dosing osteo sport at 4 caps everday, all in the morning. (thanks to rosie and easy for helping me figure out a dosage schedule)
ill be doing EXTREMELY light shoulder exeercises, for maybe 10-12 reps, for therapeutic purposes, and only 1 or 2 times a week. im also going to be stretching it, and doing rotator cuff exercises using cables or bands about every other day.
im not sure what to do for my tendonitis in terms of rehab type exercises. if someone has any suggestions, id love to hear em. im also kinda thinking that it just needs rest and no exercises.
here we go!
- 09-04-2008, 02:25 PM
- 09-04-2008, 02:27 PM
09-04-2008, 02:57 PM
09-05-2008, 09:50 PM
did my first glycogen depletion workout this morning before my first refeed. i did 100 reps, or 5 sets of 20 for each body part. my shoulder joint, elbow, and knee usually have a little bit of discomfort on higher rep regimens, and they all did great today. most noticeably my shoulder. along with no clicks or sharp pain, my tendonitis seemed to have been a little bit less painful compared to last week when i tried a couple shoulder movements. pain was still there for the last 3 or 4 reps of my hammer curls tho.
so far, only 2 doses, and clicking has been reduced a little bit, joint pain/soreness has been reduced a little bit, and my tendonitis seems to be improving.
ill update again when i do my next shoulder/bicep exercises.
09-09-2008, 03:35 AM
well im not even a week in and im noticing even less pain in my joint and less aggravation with my tendonitis. i did a glycogen depletion workout for my CKD, doing 100 reps, or 5 sets of 20 for every body part, including chest and shoulders, and my joint discomfort was little to none, and my tendonitis was barely noticeable. im kinda surprised its working this fast. i was maybe thinking a week at least, but hey, im not complaining.
a few notes: i love CKD so far. leaned out a little bit already jsut from one week of it. my carb up was, to say the least, a lot of fun. it consisted of gatorade, cinnamon toast crunch, and frozen, fat free yogurt on friday, and whole wheat bread and pasta on saturday.
this next one will be cleaner. just got WMS from NP so ill be using about 70-100g of that in my xtend, then keeping it clean with white rice and frozen yogurt on friday, and oats and whole wheat pasta on saturday.
also, depending on when i get my neovar, ill be moving into a TKD diet in order to utilize the nutrient partitioning effects and create an optimal environment for absorbtion of the creatine. and that will probably start my real road to recovery while i gain my strength in my chest and shoulders back.
next update will probably be on friday after my second glycogen depletion workout.
and thats the way the cookie crumbles...
09-09-2008, 03:50 AM
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09-09-2008, 10:00 PM
09-10-2008, 12:07 AM
today, my dog, nelson aka nigga black, passed away. ive had him since i was like 6 and he was 14 and a half. gonna miss that guy.
update on friday.
09-10-2008, 12:10 AM
09-10-2008, 07:52 AM
09-13-2008, 05:44 PM
yesterday i had my second glycogen depletion workout. quite successful. had a little bit of discomfort when doing some light shoulder presses for sets of 10 or 12. mainly in my tendonitis. basically no clicking in my shoulder anymore. every now and then, if my shoulder is in an awkward position when sleeping or laying down, i get a click when i get up and stretch, but thats about it.
all my other joints are feelin great too. knees feel improved, elbows feel improved, my right shoulder doesnt have any minor clicks anymore. i guess right now im only looking for relief on my bicep tendonitis.
question to the AN reps: ive read in a few logs and faq's on cissus that its best taken before sleep. this makes sense to me, only because this is the body's natural healing phase. just curious if you guys could shed some light on benefits of different dosing protocols.
also, ive got some ibuprofen left from my prescription, would there be any negative effects using that once a day in conjunction with osteo-sport?
09-13-2008, 10:37 PM
Taking cissus pre and post workout can also be beneficial, simply because of the antiinflammatory effects of it.
Depends on the dosing protocol that you want to follow. OsteoSport is recommended to be taken all at once, to get the full benefit of the Hyaluronic Acid.
09-14-2008, 05:35 PM
09-14-2008, 05:35 PM
ahh i am also using corezap right now, dosing it 4 caps pre w/o.
so far it is pretty awesome. but, its no rpm
09-16-2008, 07:17 PM
ive dosed osteo-sport at night, about 1 hour before bed the last 2 doses. im not sure what to make of the different schedule, but i do like taking it at night when im least likely to forget it, especially once school starts and im constantly in a mad rush to leave my house in the morning.
did back and abs today. normally i feel a little bit of discomfort when doing heavy db rows, or shrugs even. did 80s for a set of 15, one arm db row -superset- db shrugs. shoulder felt good. bicep felt good. went up to 100s for 2 sets of 12. shoulder felt good. bicep felt good.
a fairly noticeable decrease in pain/discomfort, and improvement in flexibility/range of motion for both my shoulder and bicep.
i also did a couple sets of upright bb rows, and just a couple light sets of front raises -tri set- lateral raises -triset- bent over raises. not a peep during these shoulder movements from either my joint or my bicep. the only fatigue/pain i noticed was due to the fact that this was maybe the 4th or 5th time ive actually worked my shoulders in the past 10 weeks.
depressing to see my strength be so down in the dumps, but uplifting knowing that my recovery is going very well so far.
ill update again friday or saturday after my depletion workout.
09-16-2008, 07:51 PM
09-16-2008, 08:01 PM
Sounds great so far. Too bad about your dog, but perhaps getting a new puppy will bring some new joy into your life!
Keep up the ZAP vs. RPM comparison if you can (i.e. elaborate) because I heard some RPM prefer ZAP & vice versa.
09-17-2008, 12:01 AM
ill def keep commenting rpm vs core zap. as of now, i will say that i like rpm a little bit better. but i need to give zap more time because ive been using it for about a week now, and i used rpm for like 10 weeks. but at the end of the bottle ill make a thread and give justice to both by doing a more detailed comparison.
09-18-2008, 02:27 AM
one more for the records...
today i hit the bench for a few light sets of 135, between 10 and 12 reps. on the real, i stopped doing barbell bench about 4 months ago BECAUSE of my shoulder joint pain and discomfort, even at light weight.
TODAY I HAD NO PAIN OR DISCOMFORT IN MY SHOULDER JOINT
if i didnt think it were creepy, id prolly go and hug all the AN guys when im at the olympia expo. instead i think a handshake will do.
i was honestly smilin ear to ear after i completed just a few reps, and to my amazement i completed 3 whole sets.
is there a rep option for companies?
A+++ on this product guys and gals at AN.
ps. wont be giving another update until sunday or monday. im going camping with my dad at kennedy meadows in california, near mammoth mountain. ill be doing my depletion workout and carb up while camping. bringing my cheap 30 lb db's and gettin it done haha. should be a nice, relaxing weekend of fishing, hiking, and throwin back a few beers with my pops.
09-18-2008, 05:06 AM
09-21-2008, 04:52 AM
im still dosing my osteo sport at night at 4 caps. nothing really to note as of now. did my depletion workout at my campsite with my 30 lb db's. only problem was that at the higher elevation i cold barely breathe after one superset.
so basically only did 3 sets of 20 as opposed to my usual 5. but oh well. refeed was extremely clean too, up until tonight again, oh well.
im going to start giving my shoulders and chest their own routines again, except light light weight, and only for about 10-12 reps. so im pretty excited about this, and i hope my recovery will continue with the same positive momentum that it has had thus far. wish me luck...
09-23-2008, 10:00 PM
today i had my first structured chest workout. happy to say i did so with very little pain. a little bit from the tendonitis, and none from my joint. just did light sets on everything, nice and steady. heres the workout:
95 x 15
135 x 12
135 x 12
135 x 10
hammer strenght incline
1 plate each side x 12 x 3 sets
incline db press
40 x 10
35 x 12
35 x 12
high cable cross-overs
30 x 15
50 x 12
50 x 12
probably one of the most depressing workouts every. these numbers are basically half or more than half of what i was doing before i stopped chest and shoulder exercises.
oh well. muscle memory right??
staying positive still. i realize rehab and recovery takes time, and im being as patient as possible, hoping that i wont have to do this again anytime soon, or anytime at all!
09-23-2008, 10:18 PM
Hey, at least you're finally getting in a structured workout! Just take it a day at a time, bro. It'll come back to you.
09-23-2008, 10:53 PM
09-23-2008, 11:14 PM
rosie and shaddow, thanks for the support.
forgot to mention, i did back yesterday, and did slightly-wider-than-shoulder grip pull downs for the first time since the injuries. got up to a clean set of 7 at 210, with no peep from the tendonitis, or the shoulder joint
09-24-2008, 01:32 AM
09-24-2008, 01:37 AM
09-24-2008, 01:59 AM
Your rehabilitation programme will progress in phases (i.e. once you accomplish the outcomes of each particular phase, then you move to the next).
Needs to include :
* Proprioception (daily)
* Range of Motion (daily)
* Flexibility (daily)
* Strengthening (initially daily, then 3-4 times weekly, depending on the phase)
Examples (remembering that you DON'T do them ALL at once, but some exercises are progressions from others):
Proprioception (hold for 30-60 seconds):
- 4-point kneeling
- 3-point kneeling
- 3-point kneeling with hand on a medicine ball
- 3-point kneeling with hand on BAPS Board
- Setting the Scapula
Range of Motion (15-20 reps per side):
- Pendulum flexion/extension
- Pendulum abduction/adduction
- Sawing flexion/extension
- Theraband internal/external rotation
Flexibility (hold each stretch for 20-30 seconds):
- Head Rotation
- Upper Back
- Theraband flexion/extension
- Low-Pulley Front Raise
- Low-Pulley Bent-Over Lateral Raises
- High-Pulley Lateral Extension
- One-Arm DB Row
- DB/BB Shoulder Press
- DB Lateral Raise
- DB Rear Raise
- BB Upright Rows
- Close-Grip Seated Row
- BB Bent-Over Rows
- Variations of Pull-Ups
- DB/BB Flat/Incline Bench Press
Also need to be doing exercises for lower body and core strengthening
09-25-2008, 12:16 AM
alright check it out i have a couple pieces of good news to share with you boys and girls.
first off. did my first structured shoulder workout tonight. started a little shaky, but once i got the blood movin and stretched a little more, it was f*cking epic.
started with about 15 minutes of rotator cuff exercises, a couple of lat exercises, and lots of windmills to stretch out. no clicking here, but a little bit of stiffness and soreness, which i am pretty sure is chest DOMS from yesterday.
slighty-wider-than-shoulder grip upright rows
45lbs x 15 x 4 sets (this felt so good. no homo)
one arm db lateral raises
15lb x 15
20lb x 12 x 3 sets
10lb plate static hold x 15 seconds x 2 for each arm
one arm cable scarecrows
15lb x 15
20lb x 15 x 3 sets
db shrugs (btw. did these with no straps, and no gloves. forearm development )
80's x 15
110's x 12
120's x 12
120's x 10
100's x 12
80's x 15
(i thought i was going to pass out after this little doozy)
did some more stretching, slow windmills, going from big circles to little circles, backwards, and forwards. felt really really good. and no clicks.
also, no discomfort from my tendonitis. was a little painful throughout but only because of chest DOMS, so a soreness rather than a pain.
annnnnnd onto my mini core zap log.
holy balls it felt like rpm today. i was a little down on my way to the gym. im currently unemployed, broke, and yeah, who wouldnt be a little depressed from that.
nonetheless, took 4 caps of core zap, drove to the gym. and after my first couple sets of upright rows, it kicked in. and good god did it kick in. felt like an absolute beast. i wanted to hit everything super heavy, but instead, did the smart thing, and just kicked up the intensity with minimal rest time, and a brutal forearm workout.
overall opinion of core zap so far: i wish it were a better value. only 22 servings? kinda sucks.
id say its probably a little bit better stim effect than rpm. i dont get the bulging eyes effect with rpm everytime, but i do with core zap. however with rpm, i feel that "im going to try and rip this 45lb plate in half" feeling faster and it lasts a little bit longer. other than that, i think its deserves as good of a reputation as RPM. they are both very very good preworkout boosts, and they both have their strong points. excellent job doug and all the people at CORE.
Last edited by rolandajoint; 09-25-2008 at 12:19 AM. Reason: info on db shrugs
09-28-2008, 04:20 PM
a little bit of progress, dont ya think?
mid senior year - jan/feb 2006 - about 235lbs - middle guy, before an epic basketball game for our high school
april 2007 - about 210
sept 26 - end of ckd week 4 - before refeed at 175
update coming later tonight.....
09-29-2008, 10:21 PM
did my depletion workout friday. went well. refeed went well. went to the olympia expo on saturday. met lots of cool doods including some AM vets :lanbane, dsade, trauma1. picked up lots of goodies, including ANOTHER bottle of osteo sport for the killer expo price of 20 bucks! ate some protein bars, and crammed about 6 plates and then dessert at the rio buffet with my cousin and his family.
and for shoulder/tendonitis updates, i feel that my shoulder has improved tenfold. no clicks, no discomfort in my joints, all my joints feel better as a matter of fact.
only thing bugging me right now, the tendonitis. i feel it has improved, but not ready to hit anything heavy. i did some shoulders yesterday and it felt really good. pressing caused some pain in my tendon, but raises to the front and side and the one arm rear cable flyes felt good. upright rows also felt good, but there was still a little bit of pain in the tendon.
today i hit chest, or attempted to hit chest. did a few sets of flat bb press, and i felt a lot more pain in my tendon, not as much as about 2.5 months ago, but enough that i couldnt do anymore than 3 or 4 sets of pressing movements. although, i recovered the workout with some heavy cable flyes. no pain there. really hit it hard, got an awesome pump from it, and went on to my bi and calf workout.
pretty depressed that pressing movements are causing pain and probably aggravating my tendonitis again. im going to try and go to a sports doctor tmrw to get an official diagnosis and hopefully a prescription for physical therapy.
im still being patient and optimistic, but its disheartening when training is half assed because of an injury.
10-04-2008, 04:28 PM
Was great meeting you man! Glad the Osteo is helping you out!!!!!!!
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10-06-2008, 09:42 PM
10-07-2008, 11:29 PM
How much left do you have of your OsteoSport, bud?
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