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    Dont laugh. IDS 17-hydroxy mesterone


    I got a bottle of it dirt cheap.........12.50, lol..probably paid too much...

    anyways, I want to take a month off........ would a month of this suffice lol 2 caps ED. morning and around preworkout.

    Everything i have read around here states its garbage..

    What do you all think?

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    I took it pre-workout a long time ago, I loved it. Take it on an empty stomach and it makes for a crazy pre-workout energizer.
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    thanks for the reply.
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    let us know how it goes
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    Quote Originally Posted by 12STEP View Post
    let us know how it goes
    will do......

    hey 12 step, is your username what i think means.

    If so, I am friend of Bill W. since 0ct 1, 1998.
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    Day 1 will be tomorrow.

    I have never logged before. I am in the wrong section. So i will just post when i have time.

    My supps this 30 days will be

    2 caps IDS 17HD ED. 1 am , 1 preworkout or around 4pm.
    4 grams Now Omega-3, 4 caps with meals or doses.
    100mg B6 mid-day
    1 Animal Pak multi 30-60 minutes with PRE-WO meal consisting of 1:1 , 1-1.5 Cup Chicken/Brn Rice- Training days
    ABB Tribulus Shot Energy Drink With Pre-WO meal- tuesdays- Deadlift backed with Squats
    Pro Complex Protein.- I try to get at least 2 shakes in a day
    PWO shake is 2 scoops Anator P70, dont knock it, I got it cheap. 30 bucks a tub. I have 3 left.

    my normal Tue-Saturday daily diet is 1:1 chicken/brn rice. I eat at/around 10:OO, 12:30, 2:30 and 5:00. ABout a 1 cup each time. Breakfast 8:00 is Procomplex shake with expresso coffee( i know it needs work)

    Sunday is OFF, though i try to eat sensible.
    Monday I am off work, though i still try to eat sensible.

    Dinner varies. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. Last nite i had 1.5 cups LF cottage cheese with Shake. Mixed nuts for late snack. My dinner is usually my worst meal of the day....Working on that as well. Family wont eat my bird food.


    Training Days- 6 pm
    Monday - Chest/Shoulder
    Tuesday- Deadlifts backed with Squats, then Calves,then Leg extensions, and another machine- dont know the name of it. Laying down squats? Not leg press.
    Thursday- Bi's- 3 sets- low volume
    Tris- KILL THEM

    All of the above could be better, but i have seen alot worse.

    Just came off a
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    30 day stack...............Great results. Lost some fat and gained muscle. LOVE THAT STACK!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    will do......

    hey 12 step, is your username what i think means.

    If so, I am friend of Bill W. since 0ct 1, 1998.
    April 01 1991 for me...
    Mind and Muscle Board Representative I am not a physician and any advice is solely based on personal experience with various products
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    17 hyroxy mesterone


    I'm almost done with my first bottle. I was taking 2 caps pre-workout. The energy and mood enhancement was awesome. Overall I can't really say I've had any gains though.

    I will say this: the libido/male enhancement (erection strength) is absolutely unparallel. I don't respond to any of the natural test boosters. So I'm going to have a steady supply of 17 hydroxy for the bedroom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulg View Post
    I'm almost done with my first bottle. I was taking 2 caps pre-workout. The energy and mood enhancement was awesome. Overall I can't really say I've had any gains though.

    I will say this: the libido/male enhancement (erection strength) is absolutely unparallel. I don't respond to any of the natural test boosters. So I'm going to have a steady supply of 17 hydroxy for the bedroom.
    really? nice.

    thanks for the reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    April 01 1991 for me...
    right on brother!
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    I'm watching this, because I still have a bottle somewheres in the cabinet
    This space for rent

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    My first time I used it was on an empty stomach,and it was nice!However,I never noticed affects from there,empty stomach or not.
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    i figured what the hell........ it was cheap and im a junkie. so i will just do a 30 day run of it and see how it goes.......most reports indicate its garbage. if so, i will consider it time off.

    Then what next month?,,, muhahahahaha............ ?????
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    Thats all you can do is try it yourself.I can't count the number of times I tried something that was hyped up by the cutomers even,and was just drastically let down....
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    Quote Originally Posted by pantera101 View Post
    Thats all you can do is try it yourself.I can't count the number of times I tried something that was hyped up by the cutomers even,and was just drastically let down....
    and sometimes the opposite is true. i used to hype td formestane, e-form. everyone used to say td's were crap and didn't work. today i see some of those guys using and recommending td form. if it works for you what others think don't matter all that much. btw sober since sept 16, 1995.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    and sometimes the opposite is true. i used to hype td formestane, e-form. everyone used to say td's were crap and didn't work. today i see some of those guys using and recommending td form. if it works for you what others think don't matter all that much. btw sober since sept 16, 1995.

    I totally agree. So many of these supplements have responders, non-responsder and mega responders. Person independant fo sho.

    thanks for the reply........

    Congrats on the soberiety brother. Its nice to see fellow members in here.

    btw, took first dose this morning. Empty stomach.........Definately woke me up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    I totally agree. So many of these supplements have responders, non-responsder and mega responders. Person independant fo sho.

    thanks for the reply........

    Congrats on the soberiety brother. Its nice to see fellow members in here.

    btw, took first dose this morning. Empty stomach.........Definately woke me up.
    keep us posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    keep us posted.
    i will........ I will try to update daily, if not every other day.
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    Hmm..I'm interested in following your results with this one man. This is the same as Vyo Techs 17 HD correct? Some sort of an herbal stimulant from what I have read...but I have never seen a good review on either product. I know two buddies that love to take it pre workout (and pre WORKOUT with the ladies...)

    I may have to look into it if your run goes well.

    (sober for 62 days and it suuucks!)
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    one of the things I never understood was the strong lethargy I had with the 17 mh, in the first 2 weeks I really felt the product making what its suppose too but after that the lethargy ruined everything, just like I was on a non aromatizable steroid cycle(and let me tell you , it was IDS so everything was possible)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SFRANGER View Post
    Hmm..I'm interested in following your results with this one man. This is the same as Vyo Techs 17 HD correct? Some sort of an herbal stimulant from what I have read...but I have never seen a good review on either product. I know two buddies that love to take it pre workout (and pre WORKOUT with the ladies...)

    I may have to look into it if your run goes well.

    (sober for 62 days and it suuucks!)
    Congratulations! on the 62 days. You have jumped a major hurdle! One day at a time. Seriously. Sometimes it was 1 minute at a time for me, along with the serenity prayer.

    I will say this, it does get better.

    Officially day 1.

    Diet spot on.......Chicken Brown rice.... All day long.
    Am dose woke me up for sure.

    I took my second dose 15 minutes before my PreWO meal.

    My preworkout meal is 1+ cupish 1:1 Chick/Brn Rice with water and animal pak.

    Bi's 3 sets.
    Tris 5 sets

    Both good pumps.

    PWO shake 2 scoops Anator P70.

    I will eat LF cottage cheese again tonight with procomplex shake.

    My late snack will be nuts......I try to go mixed, lightly or no salt.

    I will start am weight loggin as well.

    No review to early to tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    one of the things I never understood was the strong lethargy I had with the 17 mh, in the first 2 weeks I really felt the product making what its suppose too but after that the lethargy ruined everything, just like I was on a non aromatizable steroid cycle(and let me tell you , it was IDS so everything was possible)
    I was wondering this as well.......If strength goes off the hook, and i get lethargic, i will add carbs and see what happens.

    Sfranger, yes its kind of like Vyotech. But manufactured by a more shady company. Seriously.
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    Moving my late does up to 4:30pm, gave me jitters late in the evening.

    Last nite weight was 183 with jeans and shirt on. Probably around 180 in morning. Trying to get in the habit of getting on that scale..........I usually dont go by scale, i go by mirror and clothes fitament.
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    i remember when gnc was giving samples of 17hd, i was really liking it for the energy, must have got 30 samples packs. it seems 17hd has some serious haters, so i haven't messed with it since even though it is really cheap. btw-nunes, you have sold me on the ids pct. going to try it soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i remember when gnc was giving samples of 17hd, i was really liking it for the energy, must have got 30 samples packs. it seems 17hd has some serious haters, so i haven't messed with it since even though it is really cheap. btw-nunes, you have sold me on the ids pct. going to try it soon.
    whats the dealo on the IDS pct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    whats the dealo on the IDS pct?
    i am going to try it. enough positive reviews here and elsewhere to convince me it's worth a try. i bought 2 bottles of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i am going to try it. enough positive reviews here and elsewhere to convince me it's worth a try. i bought 2 bottles of it.

    try it for what? pct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    try it for what? pct?
    sometime down the road, or else use it in a stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I'm watching this, because I still have a bottle somewheres in the cabinet
    Hahaha, so I assume you [I]remember[I] picking up a bottle at some point, and you just threw in to the supplement cabinet, where it may or may not be found at some point in time ?! I like it, I'm the same way. I've still got supplements I got like a year or so ago, that I either didn't finish or that aren't even open. If only I could've found my original 1-AD . .
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