Dont laugh. IDS 17-hydroxy mesterone
- 07-28-2008, 05:32 PM
Dont laugh. IDS 17-hydroxy mesterone
I got a bottle of it dirt cheap.........12.50, lol..probably paid too much...
anyways, I want to take a month off........ would a month of this suffice lol 2 caps ED. morning and around preworkout.
Everything i have read around here states its garbage..
What do you all think?
- 07-28-2008, 05:40 PM
I took it pre-workout a long time ago, I loved it. Take it on an empty stomach and it makes for a crazy pre-workout energizer.
- 07-28-2008, 05:52 PM
thanks for the reply.
07-29-2008, 11:30 AM
07-29-2008, 07:19 PM
07-30-2008, 08:23 AM
Day 1 will be tomorrow.
I have never logged before. I am in the wrong section. So i will just post when i have time.
My supps this 30 days will be
2 caps IDS 17HD ED. 1 am , 1 preworkout or around 4pm.
4 grams Now Omega-3, 4 caps with meals or doses.
100mg B6 mid-day
1 Animal Pak multi 30-60 minutes with PRE-WO meal consisting of 1:1 , 1-1.5 Cup Chicken/Brn Rice- Training days
ABB Tribulus Shot Energy Drink With Pre-WO meal- tuesdays- Deadlift backed with Squats
Pro Complex Protein.- I try to get at least 2 shakes in a day
PWO shake is 2 scoops Anator P70, dont knock it, I got it cheap. 30 bucks a tub. I have 3 left.
my normal Tue-Saturday daily diet is 1:1 chicken/brn rice. I eat at/around 10:OO, 12:30, 2:30 and 5:00. ABout a 1 cup each time. Breakfast 8:00 is Procomplex shake with expresso coffee( i know it needs work)
Sunday is OFF, though i try to eat sensible.
Monday I am off work, though i still try to eat sensible.
Dinner varies. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. Last nite i had 1.5 cups LF cottage cheese with Shake. Mixed nuts for late snack. My dinner is usually my worst meal of the day....Working on that as well. Family wont eat my bird food.
Training Days- 6 pm
Monday - Chest/Shoulder
Tuesday- Deadlifts backed with Squats, then Calves,then Leg extensions, and another machine- dont know the name of it. Laying down squats? Not leg press.
Thursday- Bi's- 3 sets- low volume
Tris- KILL THEM
All of the above could be better, but i have seen alot worse.
Just came off a
30 day stack...............Great results. Lost some fat and gained muscle. LOVE THAT STACK!
07-30-2008, 08:30 AM
07-30-2008, 01:35 PM
17 hyroxy mesterone
I'm almost done with my first bottle. I was taking 2 caps pre-workout. The energy and mood enhancement was awesome. Overall I can't really say I've had any gains though.
I will say this: the libido/male enhancement (erection strength) is absolutely unparallel. I don't respond to any of the natural test boosters. So I'm going to have a steady supply of 17 hydroxy for the bedroom.
07-30-2008, 06:56 PM
07-30-2008, 06:57 PM
07-30-2008, 07:19 PM
I'm watching this, because I still have a bottle somewheres in the cabinet
07-30-2008, 07:31 PM
My first time I used it was on an empty stomach,and it was nice!However,I never noticed affects from there,empty stomach or not.
07-30-2008, 07:33 PM
i figured what the hell........ it was cheap and im a junkie. so i will just do a 30 day run of it and see how it goes.......most reports indicate its garbage. if so, i will consider it time off.
Then what next month?,,, muhahahahaha............ ?????
07-30-2008, 07:42 PM
Thats all you can do is try it yourself.I can't count the number of times I tried something that was hyped up by the cutomers even,and was just drastically let down....
07-30-2008, 08:27 PM
07-31-2008, 07:18 AM
I totally agree. So many of these supplements have responders, non-responsder and mega responders. Person independant fo sho.
thanks for the reply........
Congrats on the soberiety brother. Its nice to see fellow members in here.
btw, took first dose this morning. Empty stomach.........Definately woke me up.
07-31-2008, 07:23 AM
07-31-2008, 07:31 AM
07-31-2008, 08:14 AM
Hmm..I'm interested in following your results with this one man. This is the same as Vyo Techs 17 HD correct? Some sort of an herbal stimulant from what I have read...but I have never seen a good review on either product. I know two buddies that love to take it pre workout (and pre WORKOUT with the ladies...)
I may have to look into it if your run goes well.
(sober for 62 days and it suuucks!)
07-31-2008, 12:42 PM
one of the things I never understood was the strong lethargy I had with the 17 mh, in the first 2 weeks I really felt the product making what its suppose too but after that the lethargy ruined everything, just like I was on a non aromatizable steroid cycle(and let me tell you , it was IDS so everything was possible)
07-31-2008, 07:13 PM
I will say this, it does get better.
Officially day 1.
Diet spot on.......Chicken Brown rice.... All day long.
Am dose woke me up for sure.
I took my second dose 15 minutes before my PreWO meal.
My preworkout meal is 1+ cupish 1:1 Chick/Brn Rice with water and animal pak.
Bi's 3 sets.
Tris 5 sets
Both good pumps.
PWO shake 2 scoops Anator P70.
I will eat LF cottage cheese again tonight with procomplex shake.
My late snack will be nuts......I try to go mixed, lightly or no salt.
I will start am weight loggin as well.
No review to early to tell.
07-31-2008, 07:15 PM
07-31-2008, 07:18 PM
Next workout will be monday.
08-01-2008, 07:12 AM
Moving my late does up to 4:30pm, gave me jitters late in the evening.
Last nite weight was 183 with jeans and shirt on. Probably around 180 in morning. Trying to get in the habit of getting on that scale..........I usually dont go by scale, i go by mirror and clothes fitament.
08-01-2008, 11:14 AM
i remember when gnc was giving samples of 17hd, i was really liking it for the energy, must have got 30 samples packs. it seems 17hd has some serious haters, so i haven't messed with it since even though it is really cheap. btw-nunes, you have sold me on the ids pct. going to try it soon.
08-01-2008, 05:48 PM
08-01-2008, 06:51 PM
08-01-2008, 07:14 PM
08-01-2008, 07:16 PM
08-01-2008, 07:26 PM
08-01-2008, 07:31 PM
08-01-2008, 07:45 PM
yeah, I have a ridiculous amount of crap. i have often bought something just because it was on a clearance table
08-01-2008, 07:47 PM
yeah thats whats doing me in now.........sales across the board has slumped..........products are sitting.......... they go on sale.............then i think i cant beat the price..........bam! i bought it, then im stuck wondering when in the next year i am going to be able to cycle it in.........lol
08-01-2008, 07:51 PM
I was just doing the math and other than the last half of november, i know what i'll be doing the rest of the year
08-01-2008, 07:56 PM
I am thinking of doing a 2 month cut- sesaglow, red acid g2, reduction stack after this IDS stack.
Then do a mini bulker 8 week for nov and december.
I got 2 bottles of BAM and 2 bottles of HX2 i was thinking of finishing the year with.
Then regroup for next years plans.......
damn. I am sick........lol
we shall see......
08-01-2008, 07:59 PM
Day 2 on IDS 17HM
Definately NO lethargy on this batch. Energy up and stays up , mood is good, no aggression,..
Libido is the same or better by the way.
Too soon to tell for sure.
Diet the same, no cheats.
chix/brnrice all day long. 4 cups at least. 1+ cups LF cottage cheese and shake for late dinner.
Mixed nuts for late snack, 1 cupish
08-01-2008, 08:01 PM
i am doing sponsored assault/bulletproof log for a month as recomp, then 1-ad/4ad (ams) for a month as a bulk, then pct + rest time, then I think m1,4add as a bulk thru into jan. I may skip the m1,4add as I think i'll be able to hit 210 well before that
08-01-2008, 08:02 PM
08-01-2008, 08:04 PM
hmm I think stalking is the way to go
08-02-2008, 06:25 AM
Damn the AM dose on an empty stomach sure does jack me up. Nothing too excessive.
Morning weight 184
Gonna be a hot sob today, supposed to be humid as hell in misery today.
Took in probably about 2 gallons of water yesterday. No exaggerating.
Movin the pm dose to 4 pm.
I work in an automotive shop, I sweat like a whore on dollar day!!!!! I probably only pissed twice at work yesterday.
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