11 Keto Pre Sale!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TeamTGB]

We have the new Iconic Formulations 11-Keto up on the site for pre-order get yours now!

Iconic Formulations ICON 11 (PRE-ORDER) - TGB Supplements

 

[VaughnTrue]

can you post the ingredient panel? its not showing on that website

 

[TeamTGB]

can you post the ingredient panel? its not showing on that website

Ill get the info for you, that's all they gave us. Give me a few to get the panel for you.

 

[crowbar46]

Very interested in this also

Crowbar

 

[ma70]

Interesting. Need a label though, and also....who are they? Never heard of them and they have no other product line.

 

[TeamTGB]

Interesting. Need a label though, and also....who are they? Never heard of them and they have no other product line.

I believe affiliated with alpha gainz, that is all the info i was given i'm in the process of getting more for you guys!

 

[delsolrob]

Interesting. Need a label though, and also....who are they? Never heard of them and they have no other product line.

New product line: Licensed the carrier from Iron Legion, had their material inspected by PA...posted the labs on the product page on their site.

There's a large thread on PHF about this product.

 

[ma70]

New product line: Licensed the carrier from Iron Legion, had their material inspected by PA...posted the labs on the product page on their site.

There's a large thread on PHF about this product.

Thanks man! So if I'm correct, old Iron Legion 11-kt was 85mg per 1 mL, right?

 

[3pic_B3ast]

Thanks man! So if I'm correct, old Iron Legion 11-kt was 85mg per 1 mL, right?

That is correct if anyone is wondering this is the exact same thing as Iron Legions 11-KT. 30ML at 85MG a ML.

 

[ma70]

Looks like it'll be a 2-3 bottle stock up for me.

 

[crowbar46]

That is correct if anyone is wondering this is the exact same thing as Iron Legions 11-KT. 30ML at 85MG a ML.

So, what's the approximate equivalent between 11-kt and 11-oxo? Right now I'm using 900 mg./day of Platinum Neutraceutical's transdermal 11-oxo. That's just 2 ml./day, @ 450 mg./ml. Now the bottles of PN 11-oxo are supposed to be 60 ml., but they, in fact, are only 40 ml. Still, it seems like the PN 11-oxo would be the better deal at ~$80.00/bottle

My understanding is that 11-kt is only on the order of 2 x as strong as 11-oxo: is that correct?

Thanks,

Crowbar

 

[delsolrob]

11-OXO/Adrenosterone is the pro hormone to 11-keto. There is not a 50% conversion to 11-keto...but, I cannot quote an anticipated conversion would be. PA has been asked this a few times, and he would not speculate either.

But, most people require up to 1000mg of 11-oxo daily for results, 11-keto is more along 130mg to 170mg per day to be effective.

 

[schizm]

That is correct if anyone is wondering this is the exact same thing as Iron Legions 11-KT. 30ML at 85MG a ML.

In the process of looking this up, but what's the daily dose? 1-2ml?

 

[delsolrob]

In the process of looking this up, but what's the daily dose? 1-2ml?

I've mostly heard 1.5-2ml.

 

[bigsmall]

what's the recommended dose per day and how many dose's in a bottle.
I believe ran at a standard dose, an OTC PCT would suffice (its what I did with 11 oxo)?

 

[hvactech]

So, what's the approximate equivalent between 11-kt and 11-oxo? Right now I'm using 900 mg./day of Platinum Neutraceutical's transdermal 11-oxo. That's just 2 ml./day, @ 450 mg./ml. Now the bottles of PN 11-oxo are supposed to be 60 ml., but they, in fact, are only 40 ml. Still, it seems like the PN 11-oxo would be the better deal at ~$80.00/bottle

My understanding is that 11-kt is only on the order of 2 x as strong as 11-oxo: is that correct?

Thanks,

Crowbar

Have you researched the PN's 11x product?

 

[3pic_B3ast]

In the process of looking this up, but what's the daily dose? 1-2ml?

Really depends. Most need at least 2ml a day to see anything. 3ml gets really fun but very spendy.

 

[schizm]

Really depends. Most need at least 2ml a day to see anything. 3ml gets really fun but very spendy.

Dang, even at 2ml/day, $80 for 4 weeks, that's spendy, lol

 

[delsolrob]

Really depends. Most need at least 2ml a day to see anything. 3ml gets really fun but very spendy.

I've seen several posts from you claiming the need for these high doses. But, if you research XI-KT, there's a lot of great feedback at the 1.5-2ml/day

 

[3pic_B3ast]

I've seen several posts from you claiming the need for these high doses. But, if you research XI-KT, there's a lot of great feedback at the 1.5-2ml/day

Nope not several. I said most will probably need 2ml to see anything. That's not a crazy dose and not much different from your suggestion.You still need over 1ml to see anything and I've also stated some have seen results at 1.5 ml but most will probably not see much until at least 2ml.

 

[delsolrob]

Dang, even at 2ml/day, $80 for 4 weeks, that's spendy, lol

even with adrenosterone (11-OXO), you won't find anything with an effective dose cheaper than that. 11-keto is an expensive product to make, but it's remarkably more effective than 11-OXO.

 

[Daycrawler]

I had plenty fine results with 1-1.5ml/day. I would run it again at 1mL.

This is the same stuff as IL, just licensed out and PA ran 3rd party tests from what I was told.

 

[crowbar46]

Have you researched the PN's 11x product?

I looked at some reviews before I tried it; this is my second run with it. The first was with OL dermafury, I believe. This run is with OL SuperEpi. I've liked both times very much: great muscle hardness, pumps, vascularity, always helps me lean out. It's a great recomping agent with calories ran at baseline.

Crowbar

 

[crowbar46]

Does anyone have any direct experience using both transdermal 11-oxo, and 11-kt? If so, what's your estimate of the dose to dose equivalent between 11-oxo and 11-kt?

Crowbar

 

[delsolrob]

Does anyone have any direct experience using both transdermal 11-oxo, and 11-kt? If so, what's your estimate of the dose to dose equivalent between 11-oxo and 11-kt?

Crowbar

Here's a response from PA on a similar question regarding oral 11-oxo to td 11-keto...not the same, but should give enough scope:

"the information is not available for me to make any estimation

I will make an analogy though. what do you think would be stronger - oral androstenedione or topical testosterone?"​

 

[Toren]

I had plenty fine results with 1-1.5ml/day. I would run it again at 1mL.

This is the same stuff as IL, just licensed out and PA ran 3rd party tests from what I was told.

Agreed. I ran Iron Legion's XI-KT in the past and 1 ml saw a slight bump in libido, as well as an increase in leaning and vascularity. Bumping up to 1.5 ml saw an increase in these effects as expected. I will be running 11-Keto later this summer and I will dose in the 1.5-2.0 ml range.

If you don't have any history using this compound, I woud suggest starting out at 1ml ED for a couple of weeks and then adjust up from there if you feel the need. I would not suggest that new users start @ 2-3ml ED becasue you may be one of those users that respond to a lower dose.

This is a great compound for stacking and it will shine best when used in conjuction with other compounds that are geared towards the same goal.

 

[TucanD]

Does anyone here have experience stacking 11-k with epiandro, particularly in a calorie deficit? Seems like these would stack nicely together

 

[TGB1987]

Well guys here is an update for all of those that pre ordered. This product is shipping out as we speak. If you haven't ordered with the presale deal do so now. We are almost sold out already. This is a very unique product that should be a solid producer.

 

[Daycrawler]

I'm excited for VII-KT, presale on that by chance?

 

[smith_69]

Agreed. I ran Iron Legion's XI-KT in the past and 1 ml saw a slight bump in libido, as well as an increase in leaning and vascularity. Bumping up to 1.5 ml saw an increase in these effects as expected. I will be running 11-Keto later this summer and I will dose in the 1.5-2.0 ml range.

If you don't have any history using this compound, I woud suggest starting out at 1ml ED for a couple of weeks and then adjust up from there if you feel the need. I would not suggest that new users start @ 2-3ml ED becasue you may be one of those users that respond to a lower dose.

This is a great compound for stacking and it will shine best when used in conjuction with other compounds that are geared towards the same goal.

well put bro

 

[TGB1987]

We are hoping to get a pre sale on the VII-KT also . I will keep everyone posted. We are keeping the discount going for the 11-KT for a few more days so stock up with code Iconic11 to save 20% off.

 

[TGB1987]

We just started our pre sale on the New BLR Follidrone 2.0. This will be a great combo in fact we will have it available as a stack shortly.