Poll: Did you experience hairloss while on Epistane, or after?

Did you lose hair on Epistane? POLL!

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  1. so whats the best OTC product to take for hair


  2. Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Havoc/Epistane

    Epitiostanol
    2a,3a-epithio17a methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane
    2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol

    BAD FOR LIVER: YES.
    CHOLESTEROL PROBLEMS: YES - data unreliable; highly probable.
    TYPICAL GAIN IN 1 MONTH: 10 lbs.
    GAINS START: 2 days.

    HIGHLY ANDROGENIC
    HAIR LOSS VERY COMMON
    PROSTATE SWELLING/PAIN CAN OCCUR
    TESTES SHUTDOWN: 2-3 days.





    Carefull there bro, this is hardly a mild compound in terms of androgenic sides.
    2-3 days??
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by cufootball72 View Post
    So I just finished my havoc cycle... I noticed no shedding during the cycle but now when I run my hand through my hair over the sink back and forth about 3 times I see about 10 hairs fall. Most have a follicle, some do not. I have never had any issues with MPB and I am currently using PP's sustain alpha, toco 8 , endoamp, and unleashed. everything else is fine and I am waiting one more week till I add in an AI because the havoc is supposed to supress the estrogen so much I figure I have to let it increase before I can "control it". I was on for 5 weeks, and I finished at 50mg for the last week.

    Does this mean I am going to go bald? Will I have re-growth or are these hairs gone for good now? What can I start doing to stop this shedding. If you have reccomendations as to what protocol I should start can you please also explain what each aspect of it is meant to do....

    Thanks in advance for a reply,,,Papapump- good thread,thanks

    -Brian

    Very similar to what I experienced. The shedding continued for a bit afterwards too.

    Nizoral 2% didn't help.
    “Besides, it is a disgrace to grow old through sheer carelessness before seeing what manner of man you may become by developing your bodily strength and beauty to their highest limit.”

  4. I'm on day 29.I did 20 for the first day,then 30 for a little while,then 40 for 12 days.Now I've been at 50 for about 10 days I think.My Moms Dad had a receding hairline.I haven't used anything for hairloss.

  5. I started sheading on my last epi cycle and half way through I started minoxidil (kirklands 5% - super cheap) and up'd my saw palmetto to 2700mg a day. Not only did the hairloss stop within days but the libido went through the roof as well - not a bad side effect I did notice that if I put more than 2ml of the minoxidil on my scalp that I would get a slight head ache and my face would feel a little bloated - I think from increased blood flow but I am not sure.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post

    This is where I got that from, but have read MANY,MANY people say it's very androginic, and will cause sheding....given it's structure it's obvious.
    That's a good read Trip if that don't scare you away from aas nothing will

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Brolic View Post
    so whats the best OTC product to take for hair lost
    tell tell

  8. Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Superdrol will not cause sheding, as it's 20% as androgenic as testosterone.
    It may be 20% as androgenic on paper, but its still related to DHT, which does cause MPB.

  9. Im happy to say that finaly after about a year my hair loss from epi has almost completely reversed with xandrox 12% lotion =)
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