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    Epistane or Havoc?????


    i know i'm beating a dead horse, but which do you prefer?

    Havoc or Epistane?

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    probably whatever is cheaper...if it were me, i would run epidrol by hardcore formulations. read it reviews:http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/h...l-90-caps.html

    i have actually read people preferred epidrol over epi, but i really dont think you could go wrong with either of the three.
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    Between Epi, Havoc, and Epidrol (by GE not FA), just go for the one that you can get the cheapest -- They're all great and each has plenty of reviews to support them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Dog View Post
    Between Epi, Havoc, and Epidrol (by GE not FA), just go for the one that you can get the cheapest -- They're all great and each has plenty of reviews to support them.
    I like epistane better (haven't tried epidrol), although I like havoc alot too, for some reason I "feel" and perform better on epistane...but that's just me;-)
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    i just hope it's as effective the 2nd time around. I just finished up a 6 week Epi cycle and i plan on running the next one in about 2-3 months.

    anybody ever run epi/havoc more than once? if so, were your results the same, better, or worse?
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    Epistane...I trust their chemistry/synthesis over every other company. The tried and the true. Why try to save 5-10 bucks when you will KNOW your taking the original? Look at all the superdrol clones. They all suck...original superdrol is no comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Epistane...I trust their chemistry/synthesis over every other company. The tried and the true. Why try to save 5-10 bucks when you will KNOW your taking the original? Look at all the superdrol clones. They all suck...original superdrol is no comparison.
    epistane isnt the original....
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    epistane isnt the original....
    RPN put havoc on the market before IBE put epistane on the market.

    IBE were the original founders of the chemical, and spent a lot longer time manufacturing it.

    Who do you consider the original...the original producers of the chemical...or the first ones to slap a label on it and put it for sale?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    RPN put havoc on the market before IBE put epistane on the market.

    IBE were the original founders of the chemical, and spent a lot longer time manufacturing it.

    Who do you consider the original...the original producers of the chemical...or the first ones to slap a label on it and put it for sale?

    honestly it doesnt matter to me, but from things ive heard about IBE id be skeptical about using their Epi.

    not one bad thing have been said about Havoc
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    rumors are rumors...I've always been a great responder to IBE's stuff...but all to their own.
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    the only reason that i'm currently leaning towards epistane is b/c my last cycle was epistane and it was great.

    and if it ain't broken......you know the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy884 View Post
    the only reason that i'm currently leaning towards epistane is b/c my last cycle was epistane and it was great.

    and if it ain't broken......you know the rest.
    haha my thoughts exactly. It's working for you and you're responding great. No need to risk changing that.
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    Deff Havoc, other then the reports about epistane being seriously underdosed (granded this was a bit ago) I tried epistane and would have rather been using CEE for the 4 weeks I was "on"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    RPN put havoc on the market before IBE put epistane on the market.

    IBE were the original founders of the chemical, and spent a lot longer time manufacturing it.

    Who do you consider the original...the original producers of the chemical...or the first ones to slap a label on it and put it for sale?
    Really now?

    Do you have any proof at all to substantiate that purely speculative claim? I'll bet the farm that you don't.

    Either way - Choose what works best for you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    RPN put havoc on the market before IBE put epistane on the market.

    IBE were the original founders of the chemical, and spent a lot longer time manufacturing it.

    Who do you consider the original...the original producers of the chemical...or the first ones to slap a label on it and put it for sale?
    very bold call natty and i find your other post really quite disappointing, this is not BB.com

    this debate has been done and dusted long ago, let sleeping dogs lie, last thing we need here is a sh*t fight about who was first and who said what, we're not kids and this isn't the school playground.

    Jerseyboy884 use the search tool my friend and go over the logs etc and make up your own mind, there is definitly no shortage of info and feedback on havoc, epistane and epidrol.

    choose one of the 3 and forget the rest.
  

  
 

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