Don't know anything about the chemistry........
1,4 Diol (some discussion on this already)
Nordiol (hair saving)
1,4 Diol (some discussion on this already)
Nordiol (hair saving)
The methylation is inherited from the compound when converting to estradiol. As an example, boldenone base when aromatized will convert to estradiol which is metabolized rather quickly (but it is still a potent estrogen). For the comparison I offer dbol (which is boldenone base that is methylated). When dbol aromatizes it converts to methyl estradiol which is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more potent than regular estradiol simply due to the resistance to hepatic metabolism.I don't know about the chemistry, either. Can somebody explain it for the lay person?
My understanding is that methylating a compound does not JUST make it more orally available, but it ALSO changes the actual compound. So it might not necessarily retain the properties of the original. Certainly, that would have to be the case if, in fat, 1,4-andro would make a person prone to gyno if methylated.
But keep in mind: 1,4-diol has to go through the active specie before it can aromatize.This is going to be the same for methyl-1,4adiol. When it comes out, I would def. reccomend taking an anti-e along with it.
Do everyone a favor here - cut out the foreshadowing bullshit and just bring out the methylated compounds or shut the **** up about it - it is getting so annoying; on the vast vast majority of your posts lately all you do is foreshadow that you're going to be brining out a methyl oh test, a methyl nordiol, and a methyl 1,4. **** or get off the pot, son. I think you might be bullshit anyway as it would cost a **** load of money for you to bank roll this operation and you're a college student; since when do college students have 30 grand laying around.Ill get it for you....lol.... There are a few interesting compounds that no one else has brought out yet that I may look into...
Watch what you say and when you say it... Flaming like this won;t be tolerated.. TTYOriginally posted by Andrew Thoresen
Do everyone a favor here - cut out the foreshadowing bullshit and just bring out the methylated compounds or shut the **** up about it - it is getting so annoying; on the vast vast majority of your posts lately all you do is foreshadow that you're going to be brining out a methyl oh test, a methyl nordiol, and a methyl 1,4. **** or get off the pot, son. I think you might be bullshit anyway as it would cost a **** load of money for you to bank roll this operation and you're a college student; since when do college students have 30 grand laying around.
-AT
Almighty Curt2go, I am sorry I pissed you off. I will be very surprised if he ever comes out with the afformentioned compounds.I think methylating PH's is a weird idea. No one really knows what will happen. Remember ph's have to converted to usable hormones by enzyzmes. Metylating 1-test is one thing but ph's i'm not to sure about. I think it will just be something for the gonv't to shut it all down for.. TTY
I haven't tried to source D-bol because I won't take the risk from the legal standpoint. This is why I started the thread to begin with.yeah, should be good. Unfortunately though you might be better off just sourcing D-Bol... That's the big issue. 1,4 Diol is nothing like Methyl 1-Test
EDog
Thanx.. i will wait and see as well. I like that you are on top of things and like to see things progress just don't flame thats all.. Thanx man.. TTYOriginally posted by Andrew Thoresen
Almighty Curt2go, I am sorry I pissed you off. I will be very surprised if he ever comes out with the afformentioned compounds.
-AT
Ya i am thinking youd really blow up on the methy 4ad. Better have that Nolva handyMethyl 4-ad= a prohormone to MethylTest= hard lumps under nipples= I would burn a FREE bottle of this in the fireplace.
I would estimate for every 15 pounds you put on while on Methyltest, 0.5 would be LBM. The rest water. That ratio 15:0.5 is around 95% of the gains being water. (of course this is just a hypothesis)
Now the ratio gets worse when using a prohormone to MethylTest, which is Methyl 4-ad
So if you plan on using Methyl 4-ad with something like Letrozole, expect extemely slow gains.
If you plan to only use OTC anti-estrogens like 6-0x0, or forma, then May GOD have mercy on your GYNO!!!
Expect a lot of gains on Methyl 4-ad, 95% of those gains being water weight, much like MethylTest.
Ya who really wants to just blow up with water then deflate. With the possibility of sides its not worth itI don't think Nolva will be nearly enough to combat Gyno while on Methyl 4-ad. You will need some arimidex or preferably letrozole, in ADDTION to your Nolva.
Also to add to the line "you will really blow up" And once you discontinue the cycle, you will deflate just as fast as you blew up.
In my honest opinion Methyl 4-ad has no merit in the bodybuilding world.
The potential LBM gains are horrible.
Unless the user is going for solely water gains, then more power to them.
EDIT: The funny thing is, a D-bol only cycle would give much more LBM gains than a methyl 4-ad only cycle. And no one who is even slightly educated on steroid use does a D-bol only cycle.
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