Good question bro. I guess I just wanted to run something a bit mild at first. I build muscle pretty easily, and have been at it hard the last couple years as far as proper diet, rest, normal type supps (N.O., Whey, multi, fish oil) Just wanted to run this for few weeks to assist my cutting and see what it's all about. I did some research (quite a bit actually) and here I am. I'm up for any suggestions you would have to offer though! :head:
i heard late next week for CEL products. . . . lets just say "next week"
Yup I saw that, I'm sure glad I ordered mine earlier. :dance:
they stocked 100 bottles during the last restock and thats all gone. Wow thats crazy. sometimes I add like 100 bottles to my cart just to see how much nutra has in stock. you guys should try it to know if they are running low. their inventory is usually accurate. They dont usually bs you with oh yeah we have it but they really dont.
I was thinking about running it for 4 weeks, maybe 50/75/75/75, maybe a 5th week though. I wanna start slow since this is my first run with anything of this sort. I ordered later that day (when I started this thread) from another site, hopefully I will get it early next week. It was a little more than NP, but the cycle support and post cycle support was actually cheaper, so it ended up being the same deal. :dance:
Actually bro, I have just been researching a ton of stuff on it, on this site mostly and once I learned all the basics other members on this site filled in any additional questions I had. I have some on the way, hopefully will be here early next week! :dance: I have never ran it, or anything like it at all. Once my package arrives I shall start my cycle support and then about 2 weeks later....:woohoo: I am pretty excited as I have been training more on than off for quite some time and really serious in terms of rest, diet and the basic supps the last couple years...so I am ready to give it a run!
I much prefer H-Drol over Epi's. It is a bit underdosed. Results usally start about 2.5-3 weeks. IMO a 5 week run is ideal for Halo. There a few logs on here where 3 different ppl ran 75-100mg/day and all 3 put on 15+ pounds. Halo's mass potential is same as Epi IMO as long as you dose right. Sides are lower too. No hair thinning with Halo. Mostly just elevated BP - that's it for most on Halo.
Great news to hear it will be back in stock, i will certainly be picking up a few bottles. Any reason why you prefer H-drol to Epi's?
Well I think there the 2 best 'overall' PS's. But there's been much less reports of itchy nips & hair shedding on H-Drol. Due to the 4-chloro alteration of H-Drol it's impossible to convert to DHT. But with Epi there's still a small possibility of DHT conversion. Obviously DHT can cause hair shedding, or speed up MPB so to speak. And also cause prostate enlargement. Obviously the chances aren't extremely high for this with Epi but they're still there. And as I said with H-Drol the 4-chloro alteration makes DHT conversion impossible. Plus outta all the logs I've seen the gains between Epi & H-Drol aren't much different at all. The most gains I seen on Epi were +14 in a month. With H-Drol I seen a +16 in 5 weeks (at 100mg/day).
ah thanks man, u think 100mg's for 5 weeks is safe on the sides??
Along the lines of side effects the only thing I see usually pops up with H-Drol is raised blood pressure. Taking hawthorn extract twice a day can typically take care of that. If you do just make sure to start it at least 2 weeks before your cycle to pre-load. As far as needing 100mg/day how much you weigh? Also have you ran any cycles before?
DAMN I think you got the hair thing covered! I never heard of shedding before with Halo. Technically I'd imagine it can happen with anything that raises test though.
And that is exactly what's going on from what I have heard as well.
Hell yeah! Two for me as well, cancelled with the other folks. :dance:Back in stock boys.. get em while they're hot, just got two bottles for myself
I never run NO with anything hormonal, hell I never run NO at all anymore. I never had any effects from it. If I were to start it again I'd only pulse it though they say it's loses its effects quickly when used ED. Hawthorn extract twice a day (500mg x 2) is amazing for blood pressure. Gotta preload though.
Yeah, I am gonna grab some Hawth Extract on my way home from work here in a bit. Do you think when my goodies arrive should I continue the hawth ext w/ the Cycle Support b4 I start the Hdrol? As I realize the Cyc Supp already has this in it. But I am def getting some Hawth Extract as my bp is already up pre-cycle! What ya think?
I'm still doing PCT from EPi, so wont be for quite a while, maybe 3months time or so.
What I'm doing is running Hawthorn extract 2x daily ED. Right before my cycle I'm gonna switch over to my cycle support, like you mentioned, has Hawthorn in it. So I'd say it's not necessary. It's a plus that you'll have it on hand though in case your BP gets high you can always add a little more hawthorn in, its a safe supp & easy on the body.
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