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    Stupid Question... but im confused :(


    Hey, i always think if you take a steriod with the supporting sups like (Cissus. cycle support, sessamin) all within 20mins ur gains and results of the oral steriod will be reduced?
    . true?

    i was planning this as one of my sup dosages in the morning all in 10mins :

    Morning:
    Havoc (10mg)
    Sesamin (1,000mg)
    Cycle Support (1scoop)
    L-Taurine (1000mg)
    Cissus (1000mg)

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    space ur cycle support about 2 hours apart from ur Havoc dose, taurine about 30 minutes pre workout
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    space ur support supps about 2 hours apart from ur Havoc dose
    okay so i was sorta right... no questio0n is a stupid question so haha.

    soo how does this look man?

    8:00am:
    Havoc (10mg)
    L-Taurine (1000mg)

    10:00am:
    Cycle Support (1scoop)
    Sesamin (1,000mg)
    Cissus (1000mg)


    also would taking MSM and all other joint supports be bad to take at the same time with havoc, or would that really have no effect?
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    what time do u workout?
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    Remember to take sesamin with a meal containing 10+g of fat for lymphatic absorption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    what time do u workout?
    I workout at 4:00pm.

    here is my full sup scdeal please check it over man..i spent lots of time on its!
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    looks good man, just make sure u eat like a beast
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    looks good man, just make sure u eat like a beast
    o yea dude my diet is 4500cals of super super clean food and i bet on havoc i will get even more hungrier so i got more steaks + beans +brown rice ready to go! when ever haha

    thx for ur help!!!

    my diet if u like to look.
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    looks good, i would maybe add more meat or eggs in there though, but thats just me
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    looks good, i would maybe add more meat or eggs in there though, but thats just me
    thx, will do!
    im on day 8 of loading on Cycle support...u think i can just start havoc on only 10mg 2morrow...like whats the big deal with 1 day early with cycle support right?
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    no biggy in starting 1 day early


    also, 10mg is to make sure u dont have an allergic reaction....i would take 10mg in the morning and if theres no negative sides, take another 10mg later in the day.....no need wasting a day
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    i always take my orals about 30 minutes before my cycle support...so ur telling me thats effecting my gains???
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