Help Me Please w/ my work out w/steroids
- 04-28-2008, 08:40 PM
Help Me Please w/ my work out w/steroids
ok guys im going on a month cycle of these compounds 19-Norandrosta- 4,9-diene-3,17 dione, a progestin and stacking it with this 1-androsterone. when i start taking this month cycle i will be taking about 300g of protein a day and my week workout consists of this
so im working out each muscle 2 times a week. ive been told by lots of people that 2 times a week is over doing it and i need to start doing 1 time a week? but if im on a month cycle of those expensive pills that means i would have only worked out each muscle 4 times while beging on the pills? that sounds like im waisiting them beacuse 4 times dosnt sound there theres much room for growth in that month. if im on those pills is more then 1 time a week good or should i still be doing 1 a week? i jsut dont like the sound of only working out each muscle once a week. if thats how im suposed to do it please try and sell me on it. by the way im trying to gain the most size possible in that month i want to get as big and cut as possible in one month is that makes a difference in my workout. thanks 4 the help guys.
- 04-28-2008, 08:44 PM
Just my opinion, but I would not do shoulders the day after chest. Too many muscles in common, and you will not get a good shoulder workout. At least thats been my experiance.
04-28-2008, 08:48 PM
If you still don't know how to train then you shouldn't be taking PHs. One day off a week is not enough time to recover. More is not always better. Also, do you have legs? I'd train them too!
04-28-2008, 08:51 PM
I believe the amount of times that each body part is hit each week is dependent on the person. I hit each part once during the week whether im on cycle or not. I know this is how my body responds best. Bottom line is everyone is different . Good luck.
04-28-2008, 08:55 PM
First off, I dont consider what you're taking steroids(more like PH's) although I'm sure others might (not hating just saying). Secondly I only train a muscle 2x a week if it's a lagging muscle. Here's my split:
Monday: Back + Biceps
Tuesday: Chest + Triceps
Friday: Biceps + Triceps
04-28-2008, 09:15 PM
hmm well i keep hearing this but just beacuse i dont train like you dosnt mean i dont know how to train second yes i train legs but right know there not being worked on beacuse of an injury. well the first time i took a test booster i use my work out schedule and gained 10 pounds of muscle in 1 month and completly changed the look of my body in one week. but sence then ive been told that 1 time a week might be better so im need more info on it. i jsut dont understand how ill see better results when im on a cycle of test boosters when im only working my muscles out 4 times in the cycle compaored to 8 times? plus dos you guys say its not anough time beacuse usaly your muscles are tires still after 1 week? beacuse ive compaired my work out and push my self the the max each muscle work out and looks like i work my muscle out just as hard as you guys are who are only working them out 1 time a week and i feel like they are 100% after just 1 1/2 days so when i do work them out 4 the second time in a week they feel like they are 100% and ready to go(or can you not go my feel?) im also taking alot of muscle recovery things? maybe this is why i feel good?
04-28-2008, 09:21 PM
04-28-2008, 09:26 PM
well i want to do what works best but i still dont see how 1 time a week is better the 2 times a week im waiting 4 someone to convinse me off the 1 day a week is better. whats wrong with over training? what bad about it? so you guys think if i go on those test boosters and work out each muscle only 1 time a week so that means each muscle would get worked out 4 times while being on test boosters, i would get bigger and stronger then if i were to work them out 2 times a week which would be 8 times while being on the test booster? please make sence of this 4 me it still dosnt make sence. i realy am looking 2 do what is going to work the best, thats why i want someone to sonvince me to do otherwords. why have i heard of poeple on real steroids that start working out 2 times a day? wouldnt that be over training? thanks 4 all the help and info guys.
04-28-2008, 09:37 PM
In your workout list, you don't list legs. Don't tell me, or any of these guys, you're skipping legs!!!
Arnold Swarchenegger and Joseph Columbo used to squat 8 plates each side, without the assistance of today's smith machines.
If you want your bench to increase, SQUAT!!
Having ranted enough about the lack of working out 50% of your body in your listing, I'll advise further...
You may want to try the following...
Day 1 - Chest / Tris
Day 2 - Back / Bis
Day 3 - Legs
Day 4 - Shoulders
Day 5 - Off
(you can swap day 3 & 5 if it's too much. Then make day 6 off and repeat)
The PHs you listed aren't great, and without the proper diet, they really won't work spectacularly. I mean, you may put on 3 to 5 pounds in a couple weeks, but you may be able to do that anyhow with fricken Creatine.
04-28-2008, 09:42 PM
really thought it was a really strong PH stack? what is better? hook me up :P. i do work out legs i just didnt list beacuse i havnt worked them out in a couple weeks beacuse of an injury. so still do you guys think ill get bigger and stronger only doing 1 muscle a week then 2 muscles a week evan if they dont feel like there tired and i can do them 2 times a week?
04-28-2008, 09:42 PM
04-28-2008, 09:49 PM
Honestly, wait until your injury heals before started the PHs. Then make sure you stretch all muscles to prevent further injuries. You don't want to have to skip a muscle like chest cuz you pulled a tri while you're ON your cycle.
Here's another motto: Something is better than nothing, but nothing is better than too much.
Basically, working a bodypart once a week is better than not, but overtraining it by working it out twice a week can actually shrink your muscles by not properly repairing.
Also, you don't grow in the gym, you grow on your rest days.
04-28-2008, 10:09 PM
04-28-2008, 10:13 PM
hmmm.. ok you guys are making more sence to me now. so what about those PHs? im not going to start that with my injury i got a month on my off cycle so i got time still. anyways what do you guys suggest thats stronger then what i wanted to take that i posted in the first post?
04-28-2008, 10:14 PM
and what about chest? so i see what you guys are saying that each muscle really dos get hit more then once beacuse there the secondary muscle and so forth. but what about chest? dos that get hit from another muscle? or would it be a good idea to hit chest twise a week?
04-28-2008, 10:40 PM
as someone in this thread already said, every body IS different. some peoples bodies will recover quicker than others. However, the science behind working each body part only once a week is that the muscle needs time to recover. When u work out, you tear the muscle tissue. It is only on the days off from that particular muscle does the torn tissue repair and grow. And it is all a waste of time if you dont include legs. Without working such a huge muscle like legs your upper body will never grow. you will only be able to maintain, and what is the point of that?!?! Legs are the key to success
04-28-2008, 11:57 PM
Als you need to think about how many set you are doing. 3-5 twice a week or 8-12 once. Same-Same. 8-12 twice maybe too much. I work the muscle every 4-5 days but thats what works for me.
04-29-2008, 12:44 AM
04-29-2008, 09:30 AM
Nice one cub. But by the looks of that picture, ive only been working out 4 about 5 months now lol and im way bigger then you and have allot more definition. I can probably guarantee that I do a crap load more weight then you do so please leave your crappy info to your self, I don’t want to shrink. I appreciate you trying 2 give info. Thanks.
04-29-2008, 09:48 AM
Again I couldn't quite understand what you're saying. In fact it looks as though one of the second grade children I teach typed it, but I'll humour you anyhow. If you're interested in seeing me lift then take a look at my lifts at the pro Bench thread. Alternatively you could just contact my sponsor, Bioflex Nutrition and they'll provide you with information.
My lifts at the Pro King of the Bench 2008 (Video)
04-29-2008, 12:19 PM
04-29-2008, 12:25 PM
Cub is right, do legs as it is an important stabilizing muscle and allows for more test production being a bigger muscle and among other things. But it is said that it is important regardless to allow for 48-72 hours of rest for that muscle group...
04-29-2008, 12:25 PM
I'm on a cycle of M-Drol and this is what I'm doing...
Sunday - Back/Traps
Monday - Chest
Tuesday - Biceps/Forearms/Abs
Wednesday - Legs
Thursday - Shoulders/Triceps
Friday - Off
Saturday - Off
For every larger muscle groups (legs, back, shoulders,chest) I'll do between 9-11 total heavy sets. For smaller muscle groups (triceps,biceps), I'll do between 4-6 total heavy sets. As far as exercises go, I stick to compound lifts as much as possible, doing no more than 3 total sets per exercise, and usually only 2 total heavy sets per exercise. For example, my chest day looked like this...
Barbell Bench Press 3 x 6-8
Incline DB Bench 2 x 6-8
Weighted Chest Dips 2 x 6-8
Decline DB Bench 2 x 6-8
Chest Flyes 1 x 6-8
Also, I keep my rep range at 6-8 for just about everything, usually shooting for 7-8. For exercises such as calve raises, anything forearms, and some abdominal work, I'll do something like 15-20.
If you want the entire workout, just PM me.
04-29-2008, 06:39 PM
thanks 4 the info guys. i have the info i need, so there is no more need for anyone to post on this thread. thanks again 4 the help.
04-29-2008, 07:05 PM
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04-30-2008, 04:41 PM
Hey, dont mean to jump in with a random question in a thread but I cant seem to figure out how to start a new one... Can anyone tell me where a good place to buy H-drol online is. I ordered it from Discountanabolics.com but apparently they are out of it? Thanks for the help
04-30-2008, 11:11 PM
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