i am currently on my 6th week of sus, i added havoc to the cycle 2 1/2 weeks ago i was 189 before cycle and i am now 203, it is very lean muscle that i have gained. I am also doing liquidex .5mg eod, I am sure if i wasnt on the ldex i would be around 208-212, the havoc and ldex really dried me out. My havoc doses are 20/30/40/40. No sides to report yet, a little aggression thats all. I have another 7 weeks left of sus, I do like the havoc when on test. Usually sus doesnt add too much definition, in the past i have got bloated from sus,cyp,enth. Now I have been getting very vascular and my veins are bulging out when not working out which must be the havoc. So far i have nothing bad to say about the havoc. The only ph ive done in the past was superdrol which had great gains quickly but i felt like **** and the back pumps sucked