Epidrol - my experience so far & questions. Feedback please

[sweetdaddy]

Just looking for some feedback.....
I started out pulsing 20/20/20
week 2 did 30/30/30/30 (tues/wed/fri/sat)

week 3 went to 30mg every day

So far have gained a whopping 1 pound.
I do "feel stronger" in the gym, but I am doing a strength-focused program so I think that's probably why. I have increased my calories "a little" but I am honestly not counting them. Also I think I look a little leaner and more muscular, but again this could be psychological? I would like to hear if anyone has an opinion on:
*do I just need to eat more?
*am I expecting too much from this compound?
*does the fact that I can't tell for sure if it's doing anything mean it's probably not?
*should I up the dosage?

Also thought about bridging into something else for the last two weeks. I have a bottle of epistane which I'm sure you know there are questions about, and a bottle of MDROL from the batch that people have speculated is bunk.


I don't mean to sound like I'm whining. I'm just a little disappointed that my first cycle is not giving me that HOLY **** effect I had hoped for.

 

[krogtaar]

if you increased cals a little...are you surprised that you have gained 1lb?

 

[MrZ]

An addition of epistane would not be the smartest idea since it's exactly the same compund as epidrol. If your pulsing I think it would be OK to add M-drol at maybe 10 mg's to 30 mg's of epi.

Z

 

[sweetdaddy]

An addition of epistane would not be the smartest idea since it's exactly the same compund as epidrol. If your pulsing I think it would be OK to add M-drol at maybe 10 mg's to 30 mg's of epi.

Z

i meant switch over to epistane. I'm not pulsing it anymore, but i thought I might add 10mg m-drol to 30 mg epi either every day or just use the mdrol postworkout.

 

[sweetdaddy]

if you increased cals a little...are you surprised that you have gained 1lb?

in the logs I have read people seem to be gaining more than that. I didnt expect to gain a ton since my calories havent been super high but I thought id see a more noticeable recomp effect and/or more pronounced strength gains

 

[krogtaar]

ive read that it is better for bulking that recomping/cutting...you might want to up cals more to get the most muscle growth you can then cut afterwards.

 

[Diamonite]

Instead of focusing on products and compounds. It sounds like you need a trip down diet and training lane.

 

[sweetdaddy]

Instead of focusing on products and compounds. It sounds like you need a trip down diet and training lane.

Tell me what I need to change about my diet and training please.

 

[Ziquor]

 

[sweetdaddy]

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cant argue with that

 

[Diamonite]

Post up your diet macros and training regiment.

 

[sweetdaddy]

I forgot about this thread and thought I should revisit it. I ended up doing 10 days at 30mg and 10 days at 40mg and gained a total of 9 lbs. A couple of weeks into PCT with post cycle support and have kept 6 lbs. Not quite as drastic as I would have liked but I certainly have no doubt that the EPIDROL was legit and effective. I think in the future I will stick to 3-4 week cycles at 30-40mg.

 

[maynehood171]

I pulsed Havoc MWF for 8 wks, at wk1 10/20/30 wk2-8 40 (didn't want to ramp up even though is a pulse because was first cycle) and I didn't see any "change" until week 4 almost 5! I was hovering 187 for 4 weeks then when week 8 came I weighed in at 201lbs...so took awhile for me but my reaction was also disappointing until I hung in there....

 

[The_Reverend]

Pulsing isn't going to yield as good of results as would taking it consistently everyday. Also, I didn't gain a ton of weight with Havoc, but I leaned out and had significant strength increase.

 

[maynehood171]

Pulsing isn't going to yield as good of results as would taking it consistently everyday. Also, I didn't gain a ton of weight with Havoc, but I leaned out and had significant strength increase.

Sad but true...