Anavar/Dermacrine LOG

[dra05ke]

i have read up alot on here and other boards about anavar, but yet to see a log done on it. I am waiting on my dermacrine to start my cycle/LOG. Anavar has always made me lethargic and feeling unmotivated to do anything so since i couldn't get my hands in inject Test at the time i'm going with Dermacrine for my Test Base. lookin for maybe 4-5 lbs increase, this is mainly to cut and gain strength and maybe add some muscle. Diet is 250g/protein 300g/carb 30-40g/fat (olive oil, fish oil, natural PB etc.) per day. If anavar is not giving me an impressive recomp effect going to throw in T3 for last 3 weeks.


Week 1 - Deramcrine 4-5 pumps/40mg anavar
Week 2 - Dermacrine 4-5 pumps/50mg anavar
Week 3 - Dermacrine 4-5 pumps/60mg anavar
Week 4 - Dermacrine 4-5 pumps/60mg anavar-(may add t3)
Week 5 - Dermacrine 4-5 pumps/60mg anavar
Week 6 - Dermacrine 4-5 pumps/60mg anavar(tapering down to 40)
Week 7 - Dermacrine Sustain (PCT)
Week 8 - Dermacrine Sustain
Week 9 - Dermacrine Sustain + 400 mg Cyclofenil
Week 10 - Dermacrine Sustain + 600 mg Cyclofenil
Week 11 - 400 mg Cyclofenil



Stats: Age: 22, Height: 5'9 Weight: 188


Will post starting lifting stats and workouts shortly!

BEGIN TOMORROW!!!

[dra05ke]

Support supplements:
Fish Oil
CEE
NO prodcut
Somnidren GH (sleep/recovery)
Mulit-Vitamin

Post Cycle Therapy
Tribulus and/or Fenugreek alongside my PCT


This is my first LOG of any supplement i have used, i have several of Epi cycles, JW (crap) Furazadrol, ....I have also had a few anavar cycles in the past (have not been able to finish due to lethargy) 12 week Test enth., 8 weeker w/ winny and a few others. Being so that it is my first actual LOG so any help in how to provide you with better information for my log from you guys could provide to be very useful to me. I am in this not only for the recomp effects on my body but so others can learn about how anavar effects the body and what to expect in case any others are looking to run it soon. Any cristism is Welcome. i believe constructive critism is the best way to learn. feel free THANKS!

[ludacris007]

awesome. i will be logging mine too started the var yesterday at 50 mgs for 60 days and i will start my log a week (6 days really and i will be eager to compare results good luck brosef

[ludacris007]

for me i just want to know what kind of training with reps lbs sets just to show what progress you are making and then a body weight at least weekly and what you are noticing in the mirror. i would like to know stuff like side effects like lethargy, hair loss, inc bp, etc. also what are you cal inputs, any cardio, etc. hope that helps. i will be using eform for the first month then stop for a month then back on for pct. you think that is a good idea or should i run it for 60 days and then stop for a while. i am using 40-50% of the full dose.

[dra05ke]

thank you, good luck to you as well bro ...i love the var from even just 2 1/2 weeks before i had to stop previously so i hope it works this time, i cant wait to see what its gonna do ...sorry, i was gonna post my workouts after i do them so i only put up the working sets not just what i plan to do ..i may do more or do less... my cals are set between 2500-3000 ...will be posting morning weight with each post. .....monday - chest; tuesday - legs; wednesday - arms; thursday - heavy cardio/ABS; friday -shoulders; saturday - back; sunday-heavy cardio/ABS .....will be doing 20 min cardio after each workout session ....i will aslo be posting my overall feelings of the stack with each post and any progress i see/feel

[dra05ke]

personally i dont think it is neccessary to use eform throughout the cycle because anavar does not aromatize in the body so you will not be seeing any estrogenic side effects ..i would save it for PCT ..that's just me though

[ludacris007]

ok will do. i was thinking that it would increase test bc of its AI activity but maybe i was off base on my thinking. i will save for pct. thanks.

[dra05ke]

it would but i dont think it would be able increase test enough to see real results even enough to combat any of the feelings you may experience from anavar (which is probably only my case, no need to worry) .. you will need it for PCT though, anavar is suppressive ...but you know more about eform than i do, im just posting my opinions in general about using an AI on cycle.

[dra05ke]

first dose of Dermacrine today ...didnt work out today too much goin on with work ...will be doing back tomorrow ill post workout summary after it's complete.


OVERALL FEELINGS:
-noticed a little more energy and motivation, did not noticed much else. WAY too early to see anything though. not sure if it's psychological or the Dermacrine but did not get lethargic from the anavar so im hoping it keeps improving or at least stays like this.

[dra05ke]

DAY 2:

today was back. i felt pretty good and good a pretty solid workout for not being in the gym for a full week felt like i had some extra energy to finish up my last sets strong. i woke up with good energy after having trouble gettin out of bed right away for the past couple weeks. i guess i could describe it as an excited feeling like i couldnt wait to get my day started. I dont know if it's a psychological effect or the dermacrine but w/e it is i hope it stays like this. no increased appetite to report of and no increase in libido yet, it is way to early to tell. after my workout i have slight lethargy possible from the anavar but nothing that my 88g carbs post workout wont cure, we'll see how that goes. I have read many different approaches to dosing the anavar being as i work 230-11 i take my whole dose of anavar upon waking so it is in my system from my workout, i have heard alot of people taking it all at once saying it wont make a difference in the final results of the product. many others have said it's best to split. Should i opt to try the split method or do you think ill be OK with with im doing now.



WORKOUT

Seated Row:
190x10x3
210x6x2
DB Shrugs
(2)90x12x4
Reverse Fly (Machine)
150x10x1
160x10x1
170x10x2
Lat Pull Down (Front)
210x12x1
250x10x1
290x5x1
310x2x1



Havent been in the gym for a week and a half or so, so i wasnt too impressed with strength or pumps but the pumps will come shortly ..i respond very well to anavar but am somewhat impatient and not being in the gym for that long has hindered me mentally, but this will pick up next week on my next back workout. CANT WAIT!!

[ludacris007]

wow man that is pretty ****ing impressive on the lat pull down. 310 oh my **** that is stout. so just to be clear you are on day 2 of anavar as well or just the dermacrine. i have noticed a bit of an increase in energy. could be the var or could be the albuterol although the albuterol usually leaves me a bit fatigued if you can believe that. i cant wait to see how all of this progresses good luck to you sir and all the best.

[dra05ke]

thanks man. yeah its been both the anavar and dermacrine. i havent used albuterol yet nor do i know much about it, but i was reading up on it a while back because i was considering using in replacement of clen because that gave me some nasty sides. i cant wait to see how it works out for ya because i was going to add to my next cutter right before summer. thanks and good luck to you as well!

[ludacris007]

thanks man. maybe you could look into albuterol for the last four weeks of this log. alb is pretty clean in terms of sides. you could do four mgs to start and build up to 4 mgs two to three times per day. just a thought. thanks again man and i am gonna try and max out the lat pull machine. i am up to 265 for 2 reps gonna see if i can get to the 295 max on that machine for reps.

[dra05ke]

yeah ill defintely look into it i was thinking if the var didnt give me the recomp effects i wanted i was gonna throw T3 and a fat burner in the mix, and i've heard good things about albuterol so i think i'll give that a shot...and dont worry, you'll have no problem reaching that goal with the 'var, haha ..i love this stuff for strength, i cant believe some people have reported barely any strength gains and that it did not work, maybe i just respond well but only after 2 1/2 weeks i had impressive reults. I set PR's on about half of my exercises only after 18days. i cant wait to see how things turn out for us, it's gonna be a fun ride for sure!

[dra05ke]

DAY 3:

today was chest. got a pretty decent workout in although definitely not one of my best. i have been lagging a bit the past 2 days in the gym but i feel that it is just because i have taken a week and some off prior to starting back up. got my somnidren gh yesterday in the mail for my sleep aid and that sh*t is potent...i took half a dose and it made me real tired but did not put me to sleep so i took another half dose and it knocked me right out within 5-10 minutes of taking and when i woke up it felt like i had the worst hangover ever haha, it only last for an hour ..after i showered and ate i was fine.



WORKOUT:

Bench:
205x12x2
230x10x1
255x6x1
Incline (machine) - gym was packed today had no choice
195x15x1
230x12x2
270x3x1
Chest Fly (machine)
170x12x1
190x12x1
210x9x1
DIPS
3 sets to failure (~12 to 15 reps)


again the workout was kinda half-ass so i wasnt too impressed with it. i have pretty good energy today but am still lagging a bit not sure if it's from the anavar ..still have that hazy feeling i always get from taking it but definitely not as bad as it used to be, i'm hoping the dermacrine really kicks in soon.


NOTE: i am already noticing a SLIGHT leaning effect from the anavar though. quick results always make me keep motivated even when sides are an issue. no strength gains to report of yet. still too early to tell though!

[ludacris007]

hey i dont know how it is for you but this **** is making me hungry as hell. i am up 2 lbs already. started at 205 now 207. could be water weight or it could be that i am eating like a horse. no junk though good quality stuff. more shakes and good meals really.

[dra05ke]

nice! good to hear man ...it's most likely not water weight ..i know anavar almost has some sort of a diuretic effect on me i hold vitrually no water when on it ..i've been eating like crazy also ..i dont know if its from the dermacrine or the var not too sure but not complaining yet ...my only sole problem with anavar is the lack of energy i have with it ..it's mid-day and i wanna take a nap haha oh well i'm gonna tough it out this time and see what var can really do for me ...i keep forgetting to weigh myself when im at the gym ...i will next time i'm there ...good to see your seeing results already ..it really helps mentally, i hope they keep coming for ya man!!

[ludacris007]

i dont know about the lack of energy. i mean i feel pretty damn good while on this stuff. i mean it could be due to the basic cuts and albuterol that i am taking. it could be the var. i dont know for sure. hopefully the dermacrine will work for you. i think i am going ot add some napalm either the last month of this 2 month cycle or maybe in pct. i have heard great stuff about that and the new one atomic meltdown. just want to lose as much fat as i can. also have some ghrp 6 that i will probably throw in early next week at 200-300 mcg per day 5 on 2 off. so **** it man lets see how far we can push the envelope. keep us updated!!! also any change in weight yet

nice! good to hear man ...it's most likely not water weight ..i know anavar almost has some sort of a diuretic effect on me i hold vitrually no water when on it ..i've been eating like crazy also ..i dont know if its from the dermacrine or the var not too sure but not complaining yet ...my only sole problem with anavar is the lack of energy i have with it ..it's mid-day and i wanna take a nap haha oh well i'm gonna tough it out this time and see what var can really do for me ...i keep forgetting to weigh myself when im at the gym ...i will next time i'm there ...good to see your seeing results already ..it really helps mentally, i hope they keep coming for ya man!!

[dra05ke]

sorry i havent updated in a while, been kinda crazy with work and school ..


DAY 7:


feeling drained out from cardio i did today ..yesterday was the first time i felt the energy and mood enhancement from the anavar ..let me tell you i felt GREAT i hope it stays like this ...it has been ALOT easier to handle the fatigue then previously and i can see this cycle lasting the full length so i'm pretty fired up for it. I have noticed no strength increases only because i havent repeated any workouts yet and being so early in the cycle still. i cant wait to do back tomorrow to see if i've improved at all. i am noticing i am leaning out alot already and i'm loving it. don't think dermacrine has fully kicked in yet though. alot of the reviews and things i've been reading has said it takes about two weeks for it to go into full swing. i'm thikning about throwing T3 in earlier than expected maybe at the end of week two. ***does anyone think 60 mg/anavar + dermacrine will be enough to counteract the catabolic effects of 25mcg T3??*** All in all this cycle is looking good and to have promising effects, even if the strength gains are not as good as im thinking they will be at least the body recomp effect will be worth it.



--How are things going for you luda?

[ludacris007]

things have been going great man. weight is holding steady around 207 to 208 but i noticed more definition and recovery is been fast. feel pumped most of the day. i added 10-15 g's of creatine mono 2.5 of cit malate and 2 g of beta alanine. i am excited to see what i can do with the next 7 weeks. i would love to be an extra lean 210. i am using napalm with clen my friend gave me. so i may lean out faster than i expect.
to answer ur question i think that it would be enough to hold off the catabolism but dont expect any kind of increase in muscle mass. i am not 100% on that but that is what i would think. glad to see that things are going well for ya buddy. keep us posted.

sorry i havent updated in a while, been kinda crazy with work and school ..


DAY 7:


feeling drained out from cardio i did today ..yesterday was the first time i felt the energy and mood enhancement from the anavar ..let me tell you i felt GREAT i hope it stays like this ...it has been ALOT easier to handle the fatigue then previously and i can see this cycle lasting the full length so i'm pretty fired up for it. I have noticed no strength increases only because i havent repeated any workouts yet and being so early in the cycle still. i cant wait to do back tomorrow to see if i've improved at all. i am noticing i am leaning out alot already and i'm loving it. don't think dermacrine has fully kicked in yet though. alot of the reviews and things i've been reading has said it takes about two weeks for it to go into full swing. i'm thikning about throwing T3 in earlier than expected maybe at the end of week two. ***does anyone think 60 mg/anavar + dermacrine will be enough to counteract the catabolic effects of 25mcg T3??*** All in all this cycle is looking good and to have promising effects, even if the strength gains are not as good as im thinking they will be at least the body recomp effect will be worth it.



--How are things going for you luda?