M-Drol not as strong muscle building chemical compound as original AX Superdrol?
- 11-10-2007, 06:29 PM
- 11-10-2007, 06:55 PM
When we first came out with Methyl-Drol, we had it tested for purity and also had it tested against AX Superdrol. We were told by the lab that there were actually a couple different ways that we could label the product and that the way we chose to was technically the correct way. Keep in mind, we had the product not only tested for purity, but also tested against AX Superdrol.
To take that a step further, for those that remember when we first came out with Methyl-Drol, AX stated that they tested it themselves and then openly posted on AM (and maybe here, I cannot remember) that Methyl-Drol and their Superdrol were identical.
Now, how does that relate to M-Drol - 2 ways - 1. Labeled the same as our Methyl Drol was and 2. on their independant testing done by RTP, it shows the compound listed on the lab report the same way.
Keep in mind, I am no chemist so I cant offer any explanation further than what I just gave, but we had the compound itself tested for purity, we had it tested against Superdrol and the lab said it was the same, then AX acknowledged themselves that they were the same.
Hope that helps.
- 11-10-2007, 06:58 PM
I find it interesting that it was always acknowledged that Methyl Drol was the same as Superdrol yet M-Drol has independant lab confirmation of testing the same as Methyl Drol did and people are saying its different.
11-10-2007, 06:59 PM
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11-10-2007, 07:09 PM
I'm not a chemist by any means, but if there is a difference between the original AX Superdrol and the newer clones, like M-Drol, is there differences between other original compounds and their cones, such as AX's Pheraplex and P-Plex?
11-10-2007, 07:11 PM
I had considered that this may be the case, simply a mislabeling of the product.
Any way to confirm that you've actually got the 5a-androstane isomer and not the 5b-androstane isomer?
11-10-2007, 07:25 PM
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11-10-2007, 07:46 PM
well, heres another question. how differently do the a + b isomers appear in a GC ?
11-10-2007, 07:48 PM
So, if it says 17a-methyl in the chemical name of the steroid hormone THEN its the type of methyl that will cause you problems. The methyl groups elsewhere aren't necessarily an issue, although there are other factors, of which I'm not educated enough to speak of, that contribue to toxicity of hormones.
11-10-2007, 07:51 PM
Last edited by kwyckemynd00; 11-10-2007 at 09:06 PM.
11-10-2007, 07:54 PM
11-10-2007, 07:59 PM
DMT refers to desoxymethyltestosterone, so I'm not quite too sure what that'd have to do with a dimethyl.
I believe, off the top of my head, DMT is 17a-methyl-5a-androst-2-en-17b-ol or something of that nature. Desoxy refers to "without oxygen" and that specifically is in reference to the loss of the ketone (C=O) at the third carbon. So, if you take testosterone, add a methyl group at the 17a position, and remove the ketone at the 3rd carbon, and throw in a double bond between carbons 2 and 3 you've got desoxymethyltestostoner (DMT), which has only one more methyl than the two that androstane already has one it.
11-10-2007, 08:01 PM
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11-10-2007, 08:22 PM
There is no correlation between SNS and Competitive Edge Labs outside of my friendship with the owner. The owner of Comp Edge lives in the same area as I do and have known him for years. I actually introduced him to the person that he bought Competitive Edge Labs from (he is the second owner).
I was friends with him before SNS ever started. We will most likely compete with each other in the future on some items, but at the end of the day, we will still be friends.
Hope that clears that up for anyone wondering.
Wanted to edit for clarification - the owner of Competitive Edge is not the person that posts here for them; just didnt want any public correspondence between him and I to confuse anyone.
11-10-2007, 09:01 PM
But, what I wanted to know is this: Is MDrol actually a superdrol clone that is mislabeled, or is it the 5b isomer as the ingredient label on the back of the bottle suggests it is?
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