cycle help, for strength, not size!!

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    Talking cycle help, for strength, not size!!


    bascially i compete in a strength sport at under 181 pounds, i am 176-177 and cut, i cant really afford to gain more than 5lbs max! bascically i was think of running 60mg ED of var for 8-10 weeks.

    Opinions? btw test is not an option due to weight gained, i have some 4 ad on me so i could run maintenance doses!

    Support supps: 3g taurine, 5 g fishoils, AI cycle suppport, liver longer.

    PCT: nolva 60/40/40/20 with novedex and diesel hardcore ( i like hard ons ) i could run clomid too but i really dont think its needed!

    Basically if theres anything any of u can suggest as stacking, i love the idea of halotestin, but dont know when to run it or if its appropriate in this stack. I can get my hands on most things so anyone else any suggestions? was also thinking furazabol? but dont want joint issues, thanks alot

    PS I definatly want to keep strength gains cheers P

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    var would be perfect for strength gains with not much weight gain. also try trn or trenadol
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    or..u could try tren or winny..tren in my opinion produces amazing strength gains without the weight..anavar is reall xpensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdave View Post
    or..u could try tren or winny..tren in my opinion produces amazing strength gains without the weight..anavar is reall xpensive.
    To use tren to its fullest you need carbs.

    My recommendation would look something like:

    Test Prop/EQ/Masteron/Winny-or-Anavar.
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    tren is good for strength but with my experience it will make you gain some weight and it is hard on your sex drive without test.
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    Halotestin or Anavar with maybe some EQ and/or Masteron.
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    running a cycle w/o test is just stupid imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bLacKjAck. View Post
    running a cycle w/o test is just stupid imo.
    yes especially tren
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    Turinabol, halo and tren are the 3 I'd recommend.

    Seems like Turinabol has the least sides though, and it works pretty damn well.

    If you want to keep weight gains minimal, do 100mg of test, with 20-30mg 2x day of turinabol.. Tbol will keep bloat away, but if you somehow get any, pop some adex or proviron. You will notice results pretty quick.
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    Tren without test is begging for a shot libido
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    Quote Originally Posted by bLacKjAck. View Post
    To use tren to its fullest you need carbs.

    My recommendation would look something like:

    Test Prop/EQ/Masteron/Winny-or-Anavar.
    He doesn't want weight gain...

    besides, eq should be run for 14 weeks minimum IMO..so enanthate would be the best choice rather than prop..appetite increases with eq would also cause for more weight gain..although i would love to run a cycle like that

    i'd definitely go with anavar here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom 185 View Post
    He doesn't want weight gain...

    besides, eq should be run for 14 weeks minimum IMO..so enanthate would be the best choice rather than prop..appetite increases with eq would also cause for more weight gain..although i would love to run a cycle like that

    i'd definitely go with anavar here
    good call with the eq. test prop/masteron/anavar would seem to be something that would work.


    Still, gaining/losing weight begins and ends with diet. The aas will help with strength reguardless.
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    if completely unconcerned with side effects/loss of libido.-

    tren-100mgs EOD
    masteron- 100mgs EOD
    anavar- 50mgs ED
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
    if completely unconcerned with side effects/loss of libido.-

    tren-100mgs EOD
    masteron- 100mgs EOD
    anavar- 50mgs ED
    where is the halotestin?

    idunk42, Chaps, back me up here lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    where is the halotestin?

    idunk42, Chaps, back me up here lol.
    haha dont get me wrong id throw some halo in there if i could but he cant run that as long as he can the var.

    perhaps a week of halo before the meet-
    and 300mcgs of miberolone before each workout a week out-

    now THAT certainly isnt messing around

    and lets not forget the IV epinephrine 10 minutes before your lifts
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
    if completely unconcerned with side effects/loss of libido.-

    tren-100mgs EOD
    masteron- 100mgs EOD
    anavar- 50mgs ED

    Best suggestion yet! I used 100mg tren ace eod with 600mg masteron and had no lack of sex drive, also had some cabergline in there. Ya add in the var as well you should be ripped, hard, strong and aggressive . For the last 2-4 weeks you coulddddd always add in some halo
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
    haha dont get me wrong id throw some halo in there if i could but he cant run that as long as he can the var.

    perhaps a week of halo before the meet-
    and 300mcgs of miberolone before each workout a week out-

    now THAT certainly isnt messing around

    and lets not forget the IV epinephrine 10 minutes before your lifts
    IV epi? Jesus
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