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    Adding Epi to SD and 11-oxo


    So I am gearing up for my next cycle. I've already got my Torem and my supports are currently shipped. I am doing SD and 11-oxo for sure. I want to add a low dosage of Epi also, since I did a pulse of epi for 5 weeks at 40mg and it did not shut me down at all (doctor's checkup). I was thinking of running this everyday:

    Week 1
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    SD:10mg, 11-oxo:??, Epi:10mg (suggestions on 11-oxo?)

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    SD: 10-20mg, 11-oxo:??, Epi: 10 or 20mg (suggestions on 11-oxo?)

    Would this be too hard on my body?

    For pct, aside from my ancillaries i'm running throughout I am using torem/rebound xt/fenu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aquanutz View Post
    So I am gearing up for my next cycle. I've already got my Torem and my supports are currently shipped. I am doing superdrol and 11-oxo for sure. I want to add a low dosage of Epi also, since I did a pulse of epi for 5 weeks at 40mg and it did not shut me down at all (doctor's checkup). I was thinking of running this everyday:

    Week 1
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    SD:10mg, 11-oxo:??, Epi:10mg (suggestions on 11-oxo?)

    Weeks 2 - 4
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    SD: 10-20mg, 11-oxo:??, Epi: 10 or 20mg (suggestions on 11-oxo?)

    Would this be too hard on my body?

    For post cycle therapy, aside from my ancillaries i'm running throughout I am using torem/rebound xt/fenu.

    While i don't suggest stacking 3 orals, 11-oxo is unmethylated, i would do something like this:

    Weeks 1-4 450mg 11-oxo, 20mg Epistane, 10mg Superdrol
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    Thanks for the suggestion. Do you think shutdown would be too hard with three of these? I'm not dead set on doing the epi, I just have it and if it wasn't going to hurt me, I'd throw it in there.
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    Superdrol alone shuts me down. It seems a little redundant to add Epi. Most people get slightly better size and strength gains with superdrol than with epi. I guess i just don't see what purpose the epi will serve here. the 11 oxo should help with the superdrol lethargy. You said you avoided shutdown with pulsing but either way you're going to get shut down on an ED cycle. I don't think epi will shut you down any "harder."
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    That's a good way to look at it. I suppose for some reason I was thinking it would compliment it well. I'll more than likely leave it out and just run the SD and 11oxo. Thanks for the input.
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    Yes sir.
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    What were your results like pulsing epi for 5 weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    What were your results like pulsing epi for 5 weeks?
    I put on about 10lbs. My strength went up and my stamina seemed to go up also on my runs. The only bad thing was the libido took a freakin' nose dive around the 2nd week. From what I read, this more the exception than the rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aquanutz View Post
    I put on about 10lbs. My strength went up and my stamina seemed to go up also on my runs. The only bad thing was the libido took a freakin' nose dive around the 2nd week. From what I read, this more the exception than the rule.
    Off topic: Can u post ur results here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCfan1 View Post
    Off topic: Can u post ur results here:

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    Sure thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aquanutz View Post
    Thanks for the suggestion. Do you think shutdown would be too hard with three of these? I'm not dead set on doing the epi, I just have it and if it wasn't going to hurt me, I'd throw it in there.
    The Epi and 11-oxo won't shut you down as hard or as fast as Superdrol will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHAPS View Post
    The Epi and 11-oxo won't shut you down as hard or as fast as Superdrol will.
    Yeah, I figured as much. I was just wondering if it would give any extra 'umph'. Then again, SD does a damn good job of that on it's own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aquanutz View Post
    I put on about 10lbs. My strength went up and my stamina seemed to go up also on my runs. The only bad thing was the libido took a freakin' nose dive around the 2nd week. From what I read, this more the exception than the rule.
    Is that bad. Enless your having sex 24/7 there nothing to worry about. I took EPI before and even with shut down I got over it lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbombsquad View Post
    Is that bad. Enless your having sex 24/7 there nothing to worry about. I took EPI before and even with shut down I got over it lol.
    Well, it kinda sucked because I just moved in with my girlfriend a few months ago and we normally are like jackrabbits. Thank god she was really busy with work and was always working long days and wanting to just sleep during that time.

    If this would have happened when we met, that would have suuuuuucked. Going from 4-5 times a day down to none would have killed me.
  

  
 

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