The "I promised piston" Propadrol/Zol Log
- 05-29-2007, 01:58 AM
The "I promised piston" Propadrol/Zol Log
Here we go. Today was Day 1 of 60mg Prop/ 300mg Zol. I will not go into the support supps because i think it is repetitive and boring. But here is the interesting stuff.
Left Arm: 17"
Right Arm: 17.5"
L. Forearm: 13"
R. Forearm: 13.75" (Yes I am right handed you a**holes)
Diet is semi-clean today but will be clean through out. Looking to consume around 3000 cals a day which is around maintenance but looking for size if I feel the need to eat more. Protein intake is right around 300grams a day. I am unfortunately a beer conosiuer (sp?) and do have a beer or two a day. Which I know pisses some of you off. Other than that my diet is very clean and locked on. I will NOT update everyday because I am a lazy ****. I will however update at least 3 times per week and will be lifting atleast 5-6 days per week on my normal lifting schedule. Looking for lean mass and more viens..........arent we all. I think this will be the stack of all stacks to acomplish the true recomp.Good luck to me.....!
Please dont ask PCT questions....got it locked....SERm and all .....keep the Q's about the stack and how I am feeling.
- 05-29-2007, 02:01 AM
BTW I am still seriously considering throwing in 6mg of TRN as well.....any thoughts.....?
BTW: I am also taking 10mg per day of glutamine pre and postwo
I am also taking VasoXplode by Scivation for PreWO. This stuff rocks honestly. Not too much of anything involved. Just good energy and good focus, pretty good pump. Waiting for the prop to start pumpin....yeah boy......
Last edited by kjkriston; 05-29-2007 at 02:24 AM. Reason: I am crazzzzzzzzzzyy
05-29-2007, 08:54 AM
05-29-2007, 09:05 AM
you caught my eye! lol. I like the intro i feel yah haha.
about the trn i think you should hold off for now. jmo.
is this going to be a 4 weeker?
05-29-2007, 04:15 PM
05-29-2007, 07:19 PM
I'm really interested in this stack. I have a bottle of WinZtrol in my supply, and was considering Propadrol during my current stack, but this seem like it would be REALLY lean.
Can't wait to see how it goes. Good luck!
05-29-2007, 07:20 PM
05-29-2007, 07:32 PM
I am real excited for this .... today is my day off so tommorrow I will report in if I can. Oh and just to please the crowd PCT will consist of Clomid, DHEA, ATD, and some fenugreek and maca.
05-30-2007, 05:07 AM
DHEA, im wondering how you will like that in PCT, I kinda never liked the idea but i could have the wrong impression on it.
what kind of maca are you going to use? I used NOW's maca and didnt notice much of anything. I was taking 3g and up.
05-30-2007, 10:01 AM
05-30-2007, 02:56 PM
05-30-2007, 11:35 PM
I have never had the emotional side effects or any side effects for that matter with clomid. The ATD will be a low dose and I will be using NOW maca. I noticed quite an increase in "volume" last time I used it and the DHEA will be 100mg only for the first 2 weeks just to minimize the hormonal crash.
Today was chest day. Great workout and great pump. Not sure if it was an above normal but it felt good and strength was around or slightly above normal. weight is 226.8 but I fluctuate up to 3 lbs per day sometimes.
As for the tamox I may order some from the great reviews it has gotten. I will let you guys know if I order some.
One little piece of information I didnt mention is that I recently had gyno surgery on my right nipple and I am really hoping that I dont get any in my left nipple. I think my gyno was superdrol induced and I didnt run a SERM after that cycle and I think that was the problem. Much more experienced from then till now.
05-31-2007, 12:46 AM
Just asking because I don't see too many ppl do it that way (ramping down into post cycle therapy) but to me it makes sense to do so.
05-31-2007, 12:49 AM
05-31-2007, 12:57 PM
I can't stress this enough, whether it's nolvadex, or a generic, or whatever...get yourself some tamoxifen nitrate!
The gyno is one of the things that concerns me about propadrol, since it's a progestin, but then again so is TRN and I've run that twice with no incidence. However, I did run a low dose (4mg) both times.
by the way, I've often heard that b6 and b12 whil on cycle can help reduce the risk of gyno. I've always included them, since they can't really hurt, right?
05-31-2007, 01:26 PM
05-31-2007, 04:00 PM
05-31-2007, 09:15 PM
As far as the surgery cost I honestly dont know......as far as the scar goes you have to look hard to see it as the scar goes along the very edge of the upper half of my nipple. It looks so much better than even my left nipple which has no gyno at all. Its now very flat and blends in nicely.
On the ramping down....not gonna do that. I am running this for 4 full weeks of results. My post cycle therapy will take care of the shutdown and hormal inbalance.
I am currently pricing the Tamox and the dosage....any input on the dosage schedule?
Also: I had no problem with TRN and gyno ...SD was the only thing that aggrevated it and like I said I had no SERM to combat it at the time. Also my cycle of 750mg Test E/week really pissed it off.
06-01-2007, 12:23 PM
I'll b keeping an eye on this one. I'm pretty much decided on trying this stuff out for my next cycle...just trying to figure out what I want to stack it with to really cut up, whether Ztrol, or one of these new similar phs, like oxyguno or furazadrol...or maybe ztrol and one of these...hmmm (this would take plenty of cissus, i think, but could be worth it).
I'm curious as to the reports of big time weight loss, whio putting on lean muscle. They all say that, then you get bigger, but not much leaner, so I'm wondering how effective this one is to that end.
06-01-2007, 03:31 PM
NICEEEEEE glad to see your runnin the log man! now i can see what other effects this has for others too... im lovin it right now at day 10, gl man. btw you been by my log?
edit: just noticed your avi is the guy from ong bak
06-01-2007, 06:12 PM
06-01-2007, 09:18 PM
I am planning on posting before and after pics if I can find my digi camera......not looking good right now. but I WILL try.
06-03-2007, 07:05 AM
06-03-2007, 03:33 PM
06-11-2007, 10:03 PM
OK...sorry for the huge gap guys. I just moved and just now got my internet back...good news. This stack is awesome. Great pumps 6 lbs, major strength and getting super hard. Ill post more later but just wanted you guys to know I was still alive.
06-12-2007, 11:32 AM
06-12-2007, 08:19 PM
06-14-2007, 04:11 PM
Here is my ever so delayed update.
Left Arm: 17.5 ..+.5
Right Arm: 18 ...+.5
Left Forearm: 14.5...+1.5...WTF?
Right forearm: 14.5...+.75
Chest: 48.5 ...+.5
Waist: 39.25... -.75
Weight: 230 + 5lbs
So as you can see this has been a pretty succesful cycle so far... No sides except for some mild acne have been reported. Havent droppped alot of BF but am Def. more defined and Way harder. Ill update again in a few.
Last edited by kjkriston; 06-14-2007 at 05:31 PM.
06-15-2007, 12:49 PM
After yesterdays arm workout I believe this maybe be my favorite cycle ever. My pumps are, dare I say, Superdrol like. It hurt bad yesterday. Strength is still increasing and like I said my only side so far is slight acne....however I am now begining to feel a slight drop in libido. I give more on that tomorrow.
06-15-2007, 03:33 PM
Chest Day...wow....each workout is getting better than the last. I am however begining to experience some elbow pain. Hopefully it will subside. I think this stuff is finally drying me out a little.
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