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04-26-2007, 09:20 PM
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| Recovering AXoholic Board Sponsor  | Designer Steroid/prohormone profiles The following profiles are based on either personal experience, or through experiences mentioned within this forum. Clones are not listed (as there are WAY too many to list). If you want to compare a clone to one of the designers listed, please be sure to check the nomenclature. Special thanks to: Pumping Iron, Xtraflossy, Mass 69, stxnas, and all the folks on AM who've logged/shared their experiences with these compounds. Enjoy. Methoxy-TST Innovator: Bioscience Technologies Nomenclature: 17b-methoxytrienosterone Pill size: 2mg Dosages: The label recommends 2-6mg daily, but many users report only noticing effects when dosed at 8-12mg. Side effects: Low liver toxicity. Some users say this is a libido killer, yet others say the exact opposite. Other users report sides of thinning hair/hair loss. Reputation: Seemingly underdosed, methoxy-TST could be considered an underrated designer, as many users have reported some substantial gains with higher dosages. Epistane/Havoc/Hemaguno Innovators: IBE, RPN, Spectra Force Nomenclature: 2a-3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol Pill Size: 10mg or 12.5mg depending on what brand you use Dosages: 20-50mg Side Effects: Milder on liver and lipid levels than other methyls. Known to cause lower back and calf pumps. Reputation: There has had some spectroscopy and compound identification issues with these products, but from personal experience with it, is still a solid product. Many users have taken this compound as a solo run for gynecomastia reduction due to it's SERM-like and anti-aromatase properties. It is also a popular compound for use with the 'pulse method' of taking orals. Users can expect to see significant gains in both strength and mass. Pheraplex: Innovator: Designer Supplements Nomenclature: 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol Pill Size: 10mg Dosages: 10-40mg Side Effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profile, lower back and calf pumps, some users report aggrevation of gynecomastia with this compound. Reputation: Solid product for bulking. Wet gains. It is a sometimes used to jumpstart an injectable cycle. This is the less androgenic isomer in the Ergomax LMG matrix. Ergomax LMG Innovator: ALRI Nomenclature: 17-methyl-delta-2-etioallocholane & 17-methyl-delta-3-etioallocholane Pill Size: 10mg Dosages: 10-40mg Side effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profiles, lower back and calf pumps, may aggrevate gynecomastia. Reputation: Again pretty solid for bulking. Users can expect similar gains as with pheraplex. Superdrol: Innovator: Designer Supplements Nomenclature: 2a, 17a-dimethyl-17ß-hydroxy-5a-etiocholan -3-one Pill size: 10mg Dosages: 10-30mg Side Effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profiles, hypoglycemia lower back and calf pumps, some users report agrivation of gynecomastia with this compound. From personal experience, it gives me a wicked rebound, that causes some flare-up. Reputation: Side effects vary from mild to extremely harsh, so use caution if planning your first run. Excellent dry gains. Great for bulking or cutting. Explosive strength gains. This is a methylated form of Drostanolone (Masteron) Methoxy-TRN Innovator: ALRI Nomenclature: 17b-Methoxy-Trienbolone Pill size: 1.5mg Dosages: 1.5-6mg Side effects: Affects libido (some positively some negatively), can aggrevate gynecomastia. May cause thinning hair/ hair loss. Also another progestin. Reputation: This guy is a real hit or miss. Some users loved the stuff, while others did not notice anything from it. From personal experience, I've noticed increases in strength as well as decreases in bodyfat. Halodrol-50 Innovator: Gaspari Nutrition Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17a-methyl-1,4-diene-3,17 diol Pill Size: 50mg Dosages: 25-75mg Side effects: Heptatoxicity, lower back/calf pumps Reputation: Milder than superdrol or pheraplex. Modest gains in mass and strength. Most users take this as part of a cutting cycle. This is a prosteroid of Turinabol. Prostanozol/ Orasan-E Innovators: ALRI, Gaspari Nutrition Nomenclature: [3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol Pill size: 25mg Dosages: 50-150mg (Although it is not uncommon to go much higher than this) Side effects: very few sides. Some users report thinning hair/hair loss. Reputation: Possibly the most mild of the designers, this compound is rarely run standalone. It is often stacked with a methyl compound for a lean bulk or cut. Very mild, yet easily maintained gains. This is a de-alkylated derivative of Stanozol (winstrol). Finigenix Magnum Innovators: PharmagenX Nomenclature: Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione Dosages: 50-75mg Side effects: aggrevation of gynecomastia. This is a progestin. Expect tren-like sides. Reputation: This is a prohormone to dienolone (similar to M-diene). Decent for recomp and increases in strength. Propadrol: Innovator: EST Nutrition Nomenclures: 12-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-diene & 6-17 dihydroxyetiocholone-3-ol proponate Dosages: 1-2 caps daily Side effects: low side effects Reputation: User's who've taken it have reported great decreases in bodyfat, while increasing musclemass and strength. Not much data is present on this compound within this forum. NOTE: this is does not contain the same compound as Max LMG. They are close, but no cigar. Max LMG Innovator: ALRI Nomenclature: 13-ethyl-3methoxygona-2, 5(10)-dien-17-one Pill size: 25mg Dosages: 25-135mg daily Side effects: Can easily aggrevate gynecomastia. May be a libido killer. This is another progestin. Reputation: A bulking compound through and through. Users can expect great recovery, and soaking WET gains. M-1,4ADD Innovator: unknown Nomenclature: 17a-methyl-1,4-Androstadiene-3,17diol Dosages: 30-90mg daily Side effects: heptatoxicity, slight possibility to aggrevate gyno Reputation: Great for a bulk. Somewhat wet gains, and decent strength gains. This is a prohormone of Dianabol. However, since dianabol and Boldenone are so very similar, it is believed that the actions of this prohormone are more similar to boldenone than to dianabol (methylboldenone). 1,4 AD Innovator: Molecular Nutrition Dosages: 300-600mg Nomenclature: 1,4-Androstadiene-3,17-dione Side effects: Mild Reputation: Very weak and not very cost-efficient at the moment. This compound is often stacked with a methyl to potentiate and accelerate gains. Cycles are usually run at a MINIMUM of 4 weeks as this one takes a few weeks to 'kick in'. Slow, steady, and easily maintainable gains. This is a prohormone of Boldenone. Promagnon-25 Innovator: Peak Performance Labs Dosages: 25-75mg Nomenclature:4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol Side effects: The usual sides associated with methylated compounds (heptatoxicity, lower back/calf pumps) Reputation: Very similar to that of Halodrol-50, although people who've tried both seem to prefer Halodrol. For a while a lot of people were conviced that these two products were one in the same. Rest assured, they are not. This is a methyl derivative of clostebol. Oxyguno Innovator: Spectra Force Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17 -methyl- etioallochol-4-ene- 17 -ol-3,11-dione Pill Size: 7.5mg Dosages: 7.5-22.5mg daily Side effects: Heptatoxicity from 17a-methylation. Very low androgenic sides. Reputation: This is a derivative of the fish androgen, 11-keto-testosterone. 17 alkylation improves oral bioavailability; however, the addition of a 4-chloro group greatly lowers the anabolic/androgenic potential of an already weak androgen. What we're left with is a steroid with an incredibly low Q factor (anabolic divided by androgenic). I would expect this to be a great addition for cutting or possibly recomp, but a poor choice for bulking or looking to gain strength. Furaguno/ Ortasan-A Innovators: Spectra Force / Gaspari Nutrition Pill Size: 33mg Nomenclature: 5a0androstano[2,3-c] furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol Dosages: 33-99mg daily Side Effects: very mild Reputation: Supposedly lowers cholesterol, increases androgenic receptor activity, and does not induce any heptatoxicity. This product is too young on the market to have developed a reputation yet. Get some, log it, and let us know so I can update this compound's profile. This is a prosteroid to furazabol. 11-oxo/Adrenodione Innovator: Anabolic Xtreme / Ergopharm Pill Size: 150mg Dosages: 450mg Nomenclature: andrenosterone, 11-oxo-androstenedione, or 4-androstene-3,11,17-trione (all mean the same thing) Side effects: Mild Reputation: This prohormone has a great affinity for blocking conversion to cortisol. User's report great changes in body composition, namely significant fatloss. If you're looking for some mass gains, you might opt for something else. 3-AD Innovator: Anabolic Xtreme Pill Size: Prop Blend Dosages: 4-6 caps of Prop Blend Nomenclature: 2-androstenol acetate and androsterone (3-hydroxy-17-oxo-5a-androstane) Side effects: Mild Reputation: As per the testing logs, this compound is been shown to cause great gains in mass, mild strength, can be kinda wet (although it is non-aromatizable). I would prefer to compare this to something like 4-AD, from back in the day. Very mild side effects. Any additions/corrections you think should be made, just bump the thread, and I'll fix them when I have the time. No need to rep me, I know I'm the sh**   thesinnerIFFI Bob@anabolicx.com www.anabolicx.com AAS increase your mass. Pheromones increase you "game". http://AxciteLP7.com |
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04-26-2007, 10:06 PM
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| Banned  | Veerrry Nicccce (Borat voice) post... |
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04-26-2007, 10:11 PM
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| Banned | BTW, what was your all around favorite? |
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04-26-2007, 10:12 PM
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| Recovering AXoholic Board Sponsor | Thanks, I was bored, and decided to take a study break. IFFI Bob@anabolicx.com www.anabolicx.com AAS increase your mass. Pheromones increase you "game". http://AxciteLP7.com |
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04-26-2007, 10:12 PM
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| Registered User  | great post .on the m14add maker was cel competive edge labs also now discontiued now anabolic formulations is now selling a mix of trenplex & m14add DROTTNAR;a icelandic(or norse) word which means master/ruler/king. as christians we beleive in GOD as our MASTER/and KING. |
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04-26-2007, 10:13 PM
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| Registered User  | very good post |
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04-26-2007, 10:15 PM
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| Recovering AXoholic Board Sponsor | Quote:
Right now, it's a tie between pheraplex and havoc. I am planning a TST/Superdrol/Pheraplex cycle for over the summer, so opinions might change. I've heard some great reviews of TST at the much higher dosages, and am interested to see how it pans out. IFFI Bob@anabolicx.com www.anabolicx.com AAS increase your mass. Pheromones increase you "game". http://AxciteLP7.com | |
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04-26-2007, 11:32 PM
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| Registered User  |  I love this thread, thanks for the info!!!!! |
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04-26-2007, 11:48 PM
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04-27-2007, 12:07 AM
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04-27-2007, 08:28 AM
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| Recovering AXoholic Board Sponsor | Quote:
IFFI Bob@anabolicx.com www.anabolicx.com AAS increase your mass. Pheromones increase you "game". http://AxciteLP7.com | |
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04-27-2007, 08:52 AM
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| Registered User | stop quoting the whole list! LOL jeeze, great thread! |
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04-27-2007, 09:23 AM
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| Snuggle Club™ Refugee | You gotta fix a few things... AX was not the innovator for PP, it was either ALRI or DS (I forget)... Prostan is not the prosteroid of winny, it is the unmethylated version of it. For fini, look up diplomats logs, he was obsessed with that stuff. You're missing a few others as well, M1T, Andro, NorAndro, 1-Test, 1AD, 4AD, Promagnon25, Oxyguno, Furaguno... ..I'm probably forgetting some. Good post though, guess someone was bored. USPLabs Representative Taking a break from it all... |
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