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  1. Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER View Post
    Seeing as how you are new here I thought maybe you missed my question so I submit it again.

    And who says what the threshold dosage is? You ae a man of science since I see you have used the word numerous times in your posts so please link me to the studies to back up your words.

    Thank you


    CROWLER

    Let me make this easy to understand...

    Armidex and Aromasin are both potent aromatase inhibitors.

    Armidex requires only .25-1mg per dosage to be effective. Aromasin requires 12-24mgs per dosage to be effective. Does this mean that Armidex is LESS effective than Aromasin? NO..

    Actually, at the THRESHOLD dosage(12-24mgs) Aromasin is MORE effective than arimidex at inhibiting the aromatase enzyme.

    So although over 10 times as much Aromasin is needed to ilicit the same or greater effect as arimidex, it is still SUPERIOR to arimidex when used at the threshold dosage.

    Likewise, increasing the dosage beyond threshold will produce LITTLE if any additional effect.

    I hope I am being helpful, I am only here to help and share. All good bro's in my book.


  2. Make sure we keep this in the realms of discussion. Questioning Dr. D's method is quite fine and in doing so may even benefit everyone in the longrun but we can do this from both sides without mud slinging and capitalizing every other word for emphasis
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  3. Pulsing is used by all sorts of meds especially toxic antibiotics. The point is right on- to reduce toxic sides. When you pulse, you take a BIGGER DOSE (more than you would if you were on a cycle) to reach the minimum effective concentration of the drug to have effects (so if you were doing this with epi or some other PH, you would know if you reached miniumum effective conentrations by strength gains, muscle growth). Remember, toxicity is dose and duration.

    I'm actually a fan of pulsing. My **** works and my balls aren't small and I'm gaining muscle (even though it's not as much as a constant cycle).

  4. Ross it seems you get your threads locked and you get banned everywhere you go.

    Why are you recommending oral only cycle sto beginners


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  5. Quote Originally Posted by cgcrz8 View Post
    Pulsing is used by all sorts of meds especially toxic antibiotics. The point is right on- to reduce toxic sides. When you pulse, you take a BIGGER DOSE (more than you would if you were on a cycle) to reach the minimum effective concentration of the drug to have effects (so if you were doing this with epi or some other PH, you would know if you reached miniumum effective conentrations by strength gains, muscle growth). Remember, toxicity is dose and duration.

    I'm actually a fan of pulsing. My **** works and my balls aren't small and I'm gaining muscle (even though it's not as much as a constant cycle).

    Ross this completely discredits what you said in your first post about NO place in medicine do they pulse dose


    Also I am still waiting for your link to the proof of what is a safe dose of Steroids. I am on here quite a bit so no rush


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  6. JackedJew (like the name by the way), it's also has to do with the pharmacokinetics of the drugs:
    -efficacy and potency
    -whether it's a competitive or non-competative inhibitor
    -route of administration
    -reversible vs irreversible
    -elimination/metabolism
    Last edited by cgcrz8; 04-10-2007 at 09:14 PM. Reason: -

  7. Quote Originally Posted by TheJackedJew View Post
    Dr. D was the PERSON to propose such a method, so I am adressing him directly.

    My intention is to CALL HIM OUT on the BULL****, which I ONLY feel obligated to do seeing the LARGE number of victims he has unfortunately mislead.

    It is HE who is running the campaign. I am here to speak up, because I am educated enought to do so.

    The guy is wrong.
    This is a classless post and the thread lacks even more class. If you have an issue with the pulsing method or D, you could easily contact him in various ways.
    Honestly the way things have been delt with lately are really getting old. Publicly bashing or "calling out" people and companies on a board is a increasing trend lately and is not good for anyone. I am no longer getting involved in this as it only fuels the fire.

    best to everyone,
    john

  8. Quote Originally Posted by cgcrz8 View Post
    JackedJew (like the name by the way), it's also has to do with the pharmacokinetics of the drugs:
    -efficacy and potency
    -whether it's a competitive or non-competative inhibitor
    -route of administration
    -reversible vs irreversible
    -elimination/metabolism
    Try pulsing your Prozac. Or better yet, your XANAX.


  9. Quote Originally Posted by john123131 View Post
    This is a classless post and the thread lacks even more class. If you have an issue with the pulsing method or D, you could easily contact him in various ways.
    Honestly the way things have been delt with lately are really getting old. Publicly bashing or "calling out" people and companies on a board is a increasing trend lately and is not good for anyone. I am no longer getting involved in this as it only fuels the fire.

    best to everyone,
    john

    I JOINED THIS FORUM SOLEY TO DISCREDIT THIS RIDICULOUS "PULSING" METHOD!

    This is the ONLY reason I joined.

    I came here looking, and was SHOCKED at what I found...

    SUPPLEMENT INDUSTRY HAS NOT CHANGED!! It's allllllll about money!

  10. I have actually brought up the "pulsing is dangerous" arugment with Dr. D in another thread. He very agressively and condescendingly rebuked me.

    heres the deal. IBE knows that the main concerns with your common 18 -25 year old steroid beginnier are

    1. gyno
    2. testicle shrinkage (shutdown/inhibition)
    3. lack of libido.

    Havoc/epi seems to be perfectly safe in regards to libido and gyno. It even seems to increase libido and shrink gyno, according to most logs.

    All steroids inhibit the HPTA. Epistane is no exception. this would absolutely dissuade the on the fence potential steroid user.

    Dr. D has provided a method of use that requires no PCT, very little side effects, and very decent strength and weight gain. Almost too good to be true.

    Well, it almost precisely is too good to be true. I will concede that epistane seems to be an extremly safe steroid with a great side effect and effect profile, and it doesnt cause extreme inhibition. But it does cause inhibition.

    Even if you "pulse" the compound you are still introducing exogenous androgens into your system. It is going to have an inhibitory effect. Arguably even with the smallest dosage.

    Using epistane even for these short "pulsing" cycles will cause inhibition to some degree. Inhibition requires PCT, i dont care how minor it is.

    To say otherwise is just unsafe. In IBE's defense, i dont believe anyone using the pusling method will come under too much harm. They would simply be much better off if they ran a PCT.

  11. Here is another classic by you Ross

    DBOL alone for TEN weeks


    Or further down 2 orals at a time

    Nice going


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  12. Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    Make sure we keep this in the realms of discussion. Questioning Dr. D's method is quite fine and in doing so may even benefit everyone in the longrun but we can do this from both sides without mud slinging and capitalizing every other word for emphasis
    Well said Jayhawk.

  13. Isn't it funny...

    Rather than DISPROVING ME, you try to DISCREDIT ME.

  14. i understand my above post will not be taken well. but consider the fact that TheJackedJew might be correct.

    I firmly believe "pulsing"any steroid is unsafe. Building and maintaining a stable hormone level is what minimizes side effects and maximizes strenth and weight gains, not instantly spiking hormone levels and letting it roller coaster back down.

    Id ask that people simply consider the points in this thread before becoming defensive.

  15. You wouln't take xanax continuously...so I guess you could call it "pulsing." It's a lot less dangerous than alcohol and since it's a benzo there is NO CHANCE of respiratory depression, death, or coma.

  16. Ross,

    You state you started this thread because you are so concerned about everyones safety.

    How are you looking out for people's safety when you suggest injecting test into the testicals?

    Or where you running deca and tren together with 10weeks of dbol?


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  17. Quote Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
    I have actually brought up the "pulsing is dangerous" arugment with Dr. D in another thread. He very agressively and condescendingly rebuked me.

    heres the deal. IBE knows that the main concerns with your common 18 -25 year old steroid beginnier are

    1. gyno
    2. testicle shrinkage (shutdown/inhibition)
    3. lack of libido.

    Havoc/epi seems to be perfectly safe in regards to libido and gyno. It even seems to increase libido and shrink gyno, according to most logs.

    All steroids inhibit the HPTA. Epistane is no exception. this would absolutely dissuade the on the fence potential steroid user.

    Dr. D has provided a method of use that requires no post cycle therapy, very little side effects, and very decent strength and weight gain. Almost too good to be true.

    Well, it almost precisely is too good to be true. I will concede that epistane seems to be an extremly safe steroid with a great side effect and effect profile, and it doesnt cause extreme inhibition. But it does cause inhibition.

    Even if you "pulse" the compound you are still introducing exogenous androgens into your system. It is going to have an inhibitory effect. Arguably even with the smallest dosage.

    Using epistane even for these short "pulsing" cycles will cause inhibition to some degree. Inhibition requires post cycle therapy, i dont care how minor it is.

    To say otherwise is just unsafe. In IBE's defense, i dont believe anyone using the pusling method will come under too much harm. They would simply be much better off if they ran a PCT.
    Like mmowry said you go through half as much Epi with Dr.D's pulsing methods than a regular cycle. Then little or no PCT, where he reccomends what ATD or something... (where normal PCT requires SERM, which coincidently most of us are getting "for research purposes only, not intended for human use"<-----and are largely bought from one well known place).

    I'm not advocating the pulsing method, in fact I haven't read too much into it because I know how to cycle. But I'm just reinforcing that Dr.D's advice about the pulsing is hardly beneficial for IBE.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
    I have actually brought up the "pulsing is dangerous" arugment with Dr. D in another thread. He very agressively and condescendingly rebuked me.

    heres the deal. IBE knows that the main concerns with your common 18 -25 year old steroid beginnier are

    1. gyno
    2. testicle shrinkage (shutdown/inhibition)
    3. lack of libido.

    Havoc/epi seems to be perfectly safe in regards to libido and gyno. It even seems to increase libido and shrink gyno, according to most logs.

    All steroids inhibit the HPTA. Epistane is no exception. this would absolutely dissuade the on the fence potential steroid user.

    Dr. D has provided a method of use that requires no post cycle therapy, very little side effects, and very decent strength and weight gain. Almost too good to be true.

    Well, it almost precisely is too good to be true. I will concede that epistane seems to be an extremly safe steroid with a great side effect and effect profile, and it doesnt cause extreme inhibition. But it does cause inhibition.

    Even if you "pulse" the compound you are still introducing exogenous androgens into your system. It is going to have an inhibitory effect. Arguably even with the smallest dosage.

    Using epistane even for these short "pulsing" cycles will cause inhibition to some degree. Inhibition requires PCT, i dont care how minor it is.

    To say otherwise is just unsafe. In IBE's defense, i dont believe anyone using the pusling method will come under too much harm. They would simply be much better off if they ran a PCT.
    Pretty well said.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER View Post
    Ross,

    You state you started this thread because you are so concerned about everyones safety.

    How are you looking out for people's safety when you suggest injecting test into the testicals?

    Or where you running deca and tren together with 10weeks of dbol?


    CROWLER
    Bye Ross.

  20. That was quick!

  21. Whoa! what happened!

  22. Thank you mods.

    I had never heard of Jacked Jew or TheMindofRoss before this thread.

    Then I did a quick internet search turns out he has been banned at 4 other forums for dispensing dangerous advice.

    Hmmmmmmmmm I LOVE the internet


    CROWLER


    MOD EDIT: He was banned simply because he's been banned 3 other times here. By all means, continue the discussion.
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  23. yikes

  24. Lordy lordy.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by TheJackedJew View Post
    Dr. D was the PERSON to propose such a method, so I am adressing him directly.

    My intention is to CALL HIM OUT on the BULL****, which I ONLY feel obligated to do seeing the LARGE number of victims he has unfortunately mislead.

    It is HE who is running the campaign. I am here to speak up, because I am educated enought to do so.

    The guy is wrong.
    You know what. I am pretty sure you are a complete moron. Have you ever talked to someone who has tried pulsing? Have you ever pulsed yourself? Well, I have personally tried pulsing. Put 100lbs on my bench in 3 months. Put on 15 lbs of completely maintaineable weight. Dropped about 3 % of my bodyfat. Very, very, minor negative sides. And basically zero HPTA shutdown. In fact, I am fairly well convinced it actually raised my endogeneous test production. And as for calling Dr.D out. He has prolly given the most help to people on this board. I personally would vouch for Dr.D anyday. Who are you? You have zero cred here, so why dont you actually give some good advice. Build some cred. And then maybe, if you manage to accomplish this. Come back before attacking Dr.D.

    Edit: Wow in the time I opened this up to respond to this guy, he was banned. AM mods are the best on the internet.
    Last edited by haroldjg; 04-10-2007 at 10:05 PM. Reason: Too late.
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