New Monster Hormone

Page 6 of 19 First ... 45678 ... Last

  1. Quote Originally Posted by yeahright View Post
    Interesting. The hemaguno is an epistaine/havoc product. This oxyguno appears to be a unique compound. I'll be curious to see what else is in the pipeline.
    Rumor is Spectra Research also plans to produce a C17b-carbonate ester version of furazabol (17-alpha-methyl-5-alpha-androsta-2,3-furazan,17b-ol). It will be a non-methyl, non-toxic. This is another thing that IS NOT coming from China. In a few posts I think I typo'd SFN thinking Spectra Force Nutrition in my head, but its Spectra Force Research (SFR) and Ive seen it as Spectra Research also.

    PA: the guys from this company i am guessing (educated guess) have a friend in japan that is involved in the bodybuilding industry over there and that is why you see it being a japanese venture. its probably not a bad move, since you don't have to worry about shipping raw stuff over to the US from china (where it almost assuredly comes from). US customs will seize shipments of steroid raw material quite readily these days
    Essentially, doesn't agree its Shionogi or anyone connected. I now believe the same. However, it has been validated its still coming from Japan. China simply doesn't have these capabilities anyway.

    I'm looking forward to it. It's selling right now at a former AM sponsored retailer. But now that everyone knows who it 'REALLY" is all of a sudden nobody wants to get it tested or even speculate much more publicly.
    That which does not kill us makes us stronger - Friedrich Nietzsche


  2. So who's gonna be the first to test it? Im frekkin excited as hell about this product Oxyguno if all the hype is true...anxious to see results... just don't know if I wanna be the guinea pig
    •   
       


  3. Dont expect anything crazy. It will probably be a mild hormone. If you want major results go with high dose Havoc. 30-40mg.

    Low sides (for real this time), moderate-mild gains but quality. IMO, its a cheaper, legal alternative to anavar. Or more accurately, I hope thats how it turns out.

    The C17b-carbonate ester furazabol is even more exciting imo.
    That which does not kill us makes us stronger - Friedrich Nietzsche

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Alpine View Post
    Dont expect anything crazy. It will probably be a mild hormone. If you want major results go with high dose Havoc. 30-40mg.

    Low sides (for real this time), moderate-mild gains but quality. IMO, its a cheaper, legal alternative to anavar. Or more accurately, I hope thats how it turns out.

    The C17b-carbonate ester furazabol is even more exciting imo.
    If it is in fact very similar to Anavar, I'm still psyched... I've wanted to try it forever just because of the low sides and quality gains, even if it isn't much... I just hope it lives up to the "anavar hype" better than m4ohn did... solid compound, just didn't produce much effects at all... how androgenic do you thing the C17b-carbonate ester furazabol will be?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Alpine View Post
    UPDATE:... I was hoping someone else might step up and get it tested.... Dr. D perhaps
    Send me a bottle, I'll throw it on the IR! Just wish I had a standard to verify 100%.
    •   
       


  6. 'Adah boy, D!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by LakeMountD View Post
    Nah, people will buy anything, you should know this . Really sit back and look at the products, for instance from Klein-Becker (I think), Testrogel? lol. Do I feel it is a flop like that?

    Dbol: ~50% androgenic/ ~150% anabolic
    Anadrol: ~45%/ ~330%
    Halotestin: ~825%/~1850%
    Winstrol: ~30%/~325%
    Epistane: ~90%/ ~1100%
    Anavar: ~25%/~500%

    Here are some numbers. To have less than half the androgenic value as Anavar? Mass isn't something you would expect from this compound, you would have to stack it with an androgen in my opinion, and heck why even use it since it is 17-aa if you are going to have to stack it anyways, unless you were going to use test or something, but then we get into illegal injectables.

    And they may "feel" it is going to elicit an effect but bro, trust me they are getting it right out of the Vida book because they saw a high anabolic value. And they can hope for the fact the old school numbers are a little off and it is more androgenic than it says.
    Seeing those numbers definitely makes me wanna use Epistane, i'm pickin up a couple bottles in like 2 weeks . Halo also looks awesome :bruce2:

  8. Halotestin is definately NOT awesome

  9. Quote Originally Posted by LakeMountD View Post
    heck why even use it since it is 17-aa if you are going to have to stack it anyways, unless you were going to use test or something, but then we get into illegal injectables.
    Might make a good stack with transdermal 4-AD? (4-AD is legal here and available as a bulk powder)

    That said, would it really offer anything over a 1-AD/4-AD stack?

  10. Would the the C17b-carbonate ester attached to the unmethylated furazabol change its properties or just extend the effect?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by wrestler119 View Post
    Would the the C17b-carbonate ester attached to the unmethylated furazabol change its properties or just extend the effect?
    It would just extent it's t1/2, it'll still hydrolyse to furazabol.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    It would just extent it's t1/2, it'll still hydrolyse to furazabol.
    yes, but furazabol and unmethylated furazabol arent the same thing, and will have [possibly] different effects.

  13. I'll wait until some reputable folks test both the Oxy-whatever and the furazabol products. I ain't being the guinea pig - not for $60.

    If they wanted to throw me a bottle for half - I'd test it (and get bloodwork) but not for $60. (It's the principle of $60....)

  14. Quote Originally Posted by same_old View Post
    yes, but furazabol and unmethylated furazabol arent the same thing, and will have [possibly] different effects.
    Right, sorry for not being clear on that. The unmethylated version is about as anabolic as test prop, so even with the protracted action of the carbonate (which will make it a bit more anabolic) it's sill going to take several hundred mg's to do much of anything. The gains would be clean but the potency will be relatively low.
  15. Lightbulb


    Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    Right, sorry for not being clear on that. The unmethylated version is about as anabolic as test prop, so even with the protracted action of the carbonate (which will make it a bit more anabolic) it's sill going to take several hundred mg's to do much of anything. The gains would be clean but the potency will be relatively low.
    Doesn't furazabol actually have a POSITIVE effect on lipids though?

    "An alternative to Stanzolol is Furazabol. Furazabol's effects are virtually identical to Stanzolol except that instead of having an extremely adverse effect on cholesterol values, Furazabol actually improves a person's blood lipid profile (at therapeutic doses, not performance enhancing ones).[citation needed] Sold under the trade name Mitolan, Furazabol is a standard treatment in Japan for hyperlipemia."

    If so, it would seem to be a nice stacking compound in lieu of something like zol.

    Linky to wikipedia article where I read this: Stanozolol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

  16. How long would the THP ester on orastan-a extend its half life?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by yeahright View Post
    Doesn't furazabol actually have a POSITIVE effect on lipids though? ...
    Yes, it is classified as an anticholesteremic, not an anabolic or androgen. However, at anabolic doses, this effect is probably reversed. I think I'd have rather seen a androisoxazol carbonate instead.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    Yes, it is classified as an anticholesteremic, not an anabolic or androgen. However, at anabolic doses, this effect is probably reversed. I think I'd have rather seen a androisoxazol carbonate instead.

    Ahhh, another example of the dose making the poison.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by yeahright View Post
    Ahhh, another example of the dose making the poison.
    Everything is an example of the dose making the poison.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by TeamSavage View Post
    Everything is an example of the dose making the poison.
    Everything except pizza of course izza: mmmmmm....pizza.

  21. i would like to add one more new prohormone i came across it is called methyl x 3,17 does any one know anything about it if so ,id like to know

  22. so what are thoughts on the potential liver toxcicity of Oxyguno besed on the structure?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by jerlion777 View Post
    i would like to add one more new prohormone i came across it is called methyl x 3,17 does any one know anything about it if so ,id like to know
    who makes it bro??

  24. Quote Originally Posted by jerlion777 View Post
    i would like to add one more new prohormone i came across it is called methyl x 3,17 does any one know anything about it if so ,id like to know
    Could be an Epistane/Havoc clone....

  25. Quote Originally Posted by jmh80 View Post
    Could be an Epistane/Havoc clone....
    If so, then these companies have gotten even more retarded that before! I mean "methyl x 3,17" does not even make sense. Is it methylated at both these positions!? Can you say anti-androgen? lol

    I doubt it, but a 2,3-bridge makes even less sense for something called 3,17. Not that it has to make sense I suppose.
  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. new pro hormone "cynostane" by A.I.
    By jbryand101b in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 09-08-2009, 01:03 AM
  2. Biotest's New Pro-Hormone
    By Schmazz in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 08-16-2008, 03:23 PM
  3. new growth hormone supplement
    By panman in forum Supplements
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 05-25-2007, 12:04 PM
  4. new pro-hormones convert to what?
    By jeep69 in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 05-19-2006, 02:42 AM
  5. vpx post phs ban new growth hormone
    By sicosico in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 11-06-2004, 06:17 PM
Log in
Log in