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- 03-18-2007, 01:02 PM
- 03-18-2007, 01:29 PM
- 03-18-2007, 01:31 PM
You may want to hold off wildly playing around with the dosages....just do a slow and steady progression to see what happens.
03-18-2007, 03:43 PM
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03-18-2007, 07:27 PM
why they look at research of steroids as not being as useful as they can be just shows their ignorance of the widespread benifits such research could possibly bring.....
03-18-2007, 08:25 PM
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03-18-2007, 10:54 PM
As for Superdrol and other orals, low androgenicity could actually be a benefit for libido. The low androgenicity will equal low suppression, which means you can retain much of your natty test production (and thus libido) over a 3-4 week cycle. I imagine if you took Superdrol for 12 weeks (bad idea!), your libido would be pretty dead by the end.
03-18-2007, 10:59 PM
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03-19-2007, 12:36 AM
03-19-2007, 12:46 AM
But yeah, it's time steroids get some good press because like you say, they save 1000's of lives every day and help so many people. They're practically everywhere too, as I pointed out, in many of the supps and herbs we use every day.
03-19-2007, 12:47 AM
By the way does anyone have any guesses on the type of action expected from the Furzabol ethyl-ester? Based on its structure of course........
I have never even heard of the results obtained by anyone running a high enough dose of regular Furzabol.
03-19-2007, 12:52 AM
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03-19-2007, 01:41 AM
03-19-2007, 01:41 AM
lanky - are you the same lanky from steroid.com?
and to address the "week on this, week on that" reports - please spare us these. it's just no way to evaluate a product, and points to a greater problem in administration. juicing is executing a well-developed plan, not switching every other week just for the he11 of it.
03-19-2007, 08:54 AM
03-19-2007, 09:46 AM
03-19-2007, 10:20 AM
I am not the same lanky from steroid.com ..I have been at elitefitness.com for the past 6 years, and a recent account here and at anabolicx..I understand your concern with the issue of the duration of my testing a product.. i have a good idea if a product holds any anabolic activity,,your views are noted and my future testing products will run longer.
03-19-2007, 01:57 PM
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03-19-2007, 06:57 PM
lanky - sorry, i DID mean EF, not steroid.com. beaker avatar right? if so, let me just say that i have valued your contributions over there (i have a different username there) over the last couple years. you're an asset to this board. now stop being so damn impulsive with your steroids i know they're fun, but you gotta give em a chance!
oxyguno, if it's anything like its very close relative tbol, will take a little while to knock your socks off. my best weeks on it are 3-5, and i dont see a whole helluva lot during the first week. but the gains are so freaking clean, i'd wait as long as i had to!
03-19-2007, 08:25 PM
03-19-2007, 08:44 PM
Obviously, something that is highly androgenic but does not aromatize will be less suppressive than something that is equally androgenic but also has estrogenic activity. But all other things being equal, a highly androgenic compound will generally be far more suppressive than a not-so-androgenic compound.
My original point was that the reason Superdrol isn't very androgenic but still doesn't cause libido loss is because it isn't very androgenic (and neither does it aromatize or have progesterone-related activity), so it just isn't that suppressive over short-cycles. Libido on-cycle is a function of both endogenous and exogenous androgenicity, the first of which declines over the course of a cycle as a function of suppression. Something that's not very androgenic but not very suppressive either will not cause much libido loss over a short-cycle because endogenous androgenicity remains more-or-less intact. (Like I said, suppression still occurs, however, so I imagine that a 12-wk Superdrol cycle would be a libido killer, as by the end endogenous androgenicity would be greatly suppressed and Superdrol would provide little exogenous androgenicity to replace it.)
03-20-2007, 12:52 AM
03-20-2007, 07:54 PM
labs measure androgenicity very simply - prostate weight. the prostate is a big target for DHT and other androgenic hormones, which makes it a fair model for evaluation.
"anabolic" activity (the other dimension of a steroid, if we are to believe there are only 2!) is basically how much actual muscle a steroid can put on you - simple as that.
neither of these dimensions has much to do with suppression. both "high anabolics" (tbol, var, anadrol) and "high androgens" (MDHT, proviron, masteron) that dont aromatize...(notice i am leaving our progestins for clarity)....bind to the AR exclusively, and that binding affinity, coupled with duration, SHBG binding and a few other issues, will be the primary drivers for suppression. how anabolic or androgenic a steroid is doesnt have much bearing.
have i made it reasonably clear?
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