yes, look at the compounds
Epistane = 2a,3a-Epithio-17a-methyl-17B-hydroxy-5a-androstane
Havoc = 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol
Looks like it to me...
slight differences mean different product, no?
chemical structure is important.....
We had similar issues when FX came out people thought all these other compounds were the same thing.....
Mace, I believe they are the same, just written up differently...
yup.Originally Posted by PumpingIron
Well, i am adding HAvoc into my current stack, so we will see!
I am trying to figure this one out...I can't quite figure out what this is compared to...I have read that it's an anti-e...so...how would one compare this to something like halodrol...I take it that there's no bloat so to me it can't really be compared to superdrol or phera...what does everyone else thing?
Check out my forum (Dr.D's corner...) at IBE's home board.Originally Posted by tigertest
I have posted bloodwork and answered a lot of these questions already, including the one you just asked. Plus people have logs going now too! If you have additional questions that have not yet been answered, ask it over there please.
thanks Dr. D...
I must be dumb--but I cant find your fourm--can I get a link?Originally Posted by DR.D
thanx bro--whos better than youOriginally Posted by Ziricote
Identical compounds.Originally Posted by macedaddy
-ol and -hydroxy are both referring to an OH group at position 17. Just written differently.
Ultradrol Log: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle...pressured.html