1-Test & 4OHT

[ingo_1978]

For my next cycle am planning to do 200mg 1-Test and 200mg 4-OHT transdermally daily for 8 weeks. Are my dosages correct and will 200mg of 4-OHT be enough to stop labido and lethargy issues from the 1-Test, or should I go with 4-AD instead?

 

[Kristofer68SS]

not sure, watching this thread.

 

[ingo_1978]

Nobody stacked these before??

 

[BigVrunga]

Ive run 1test/4AD/OHT before. Overall, I wasnt very impressed with the addition of the OHT compared to a 1test/4AD cycle I did a while before.

The 1test/4AD/OHT cycle was very wet, I bloated up like a balloon and my RHR and BP were through the roof. OHT itself might be different however...if you want relatively dry gains it might work well, but keep an anti-e on hand to control the bloat if it crops up.

This is odd, I know, because theoretically OHT was supposed to help control water retention - no so in my case.

BV

 

[ingo_1978]

I'm avoiding 4-AD due to the water retension and just taking the 4-oht for labido. 4-OHT doesn't have any anti-estrogenic activity as far as I'm aware but it does not aromitise.

What were your doses and cycle length?

 

[Max32]

Ive run 1test/4AD/OHT before. Overall, I wasnt very impressed with the addition of the OHT compared to a 1test/4AD cycle I did a while before.

The 1test/4AD/OHT cycle was very wet, I bloated up like a balloon and my RHR and BP were through the roof. OHT itself might be different however...if you want relatively dry gains it might work well, but keep an anti-e on hand to control the bloat if it crops up.

This is odd, I know, because theoretically OHT was supposed to help control water retention - no so in my case.

BV

You know, this is very funny to me. I noticed the very same thing this time around. Last yr, I just ran 4-OHT CYP and EQ. Loved it!!! This yr, I did the same, but added Methoxy Tren (old ALRI tren analog) up front, along with some test phenyl prop throughout. I figured the 4 0HT would hold back any aromatization from the test, now I see why I have been holding a slight bit of water....

 

[BigVrunga]

What were your doses and cycle length?

Here's the log:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/21574-bigvrungas-homebrew-extravaganza.html?highlight=Homebrew

I figured the 4 0HT would hold back any aromatization from the test, now I see why I have been holding a slight bit of water....

4OHT was supposed to be a mild aromatase inhibitor, but in my limited experience it didnt do much in that regard. If you want add a compound that could be slightly anabolic, but with the primary goal to reduce estrogenic sides on cycle, Id suggest formestane. Its readily available, and actually converts to 4OHT.

BV

 

[prld2gr8ns]

One of my all time favorite cycles I've done consisted of 200mg OHT and 400mg 1T. Good gains, and nice recomp effects for me. I think at the dose of 1T you have laid out you'll be just find in regards to the sides. I didn't really feel anything bad running it at 400 for 8wk.