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So what I do is a push day and then a pull day. I do my leg work on the pull day. Now I know every one is gonna jump on me about not doing squats but I work out at home and I don't have a power rack so I do my powercleans in place of squats.

Push Day:
Bench warmup with 225 for 8 reps
275 x 5
260 x 5
250 x 5
240 x 5

Incline dumbell press
80's for as many reps as possible x 4 sets (the reps vary so much I cant give accurate numbers)

Shoulder press

135 x 5 reps x 4 sets

dips

4 sets x 8 reps
Dips will be changing to bench dips now that I am moving my wokouts inside for the winter.

skull crushers

75 x 6-8 reps x 4 sets

push day done.
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Pull day.

pull ups
3 sets for as many reps till falure.

power cleans

215 x 6 reps x 3 sets

Yates row

215 x 6 reps x 3 set

Bent over barbell row

185 x 6 reps x 3 set

Upright row (if I feel like my shoulders have recovered)

115 x 6-8 reps x 3 set

barbell curls

115 x 6 reps
100 x 6 reps x two set

dead lifts

415 x 2
375 x 3-4
335 x 6
335 x 6

Now you have my baseline lifts. My bulking cycle is 500mg of testosterone enanthate per week divided into 2 shots, 500mg of EQ per week in 2 shots and kickstarting it all with SD at 20/20/20. Pct will be toremifene using a tapered down dosing scheme. For current before pics of me Weighing in at 220 check HERE
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/pics/52220-updated-pics-bane.html
week 1-12 EQ
week 1-15 test
week 2-4 sd
week 18-22 pct with toremifene
 

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This past sunday was my first inject and a push day. Today was a pull day and I did my second inject. Refer to above post for weights and reps used these 2 days. I am still very sore in my chest today from the push day on sunday. I weighed in at 220 today as well. Hopefully as the steroids kick in I will be able to use fewer of days but for now it looks like two workouts per week are what I will be doing.
 

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i'm interested. i'd run the EQ to week 13 at a minimum...doesnt even get magical til week 9 for me, personally. also, i would not put all my stock in research chem PCTs with brand new compounds. try to get some pharm grade nolva or clomid and add it....and HCG is a great addition to any longer cycle.
 
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Gotta say man, three compounds for a first cycle? I think you are overcomplicating things and with the great base you have, IMO, it isn't needed. I say cut out the EQ, and stick with the Test E/SD. EQ's half-life is so long that if you do have a harsh reaction to it (though not likely given EQ's low side effect profile) you won't really be able to cease in time to alleviate sides. And for that matter will not neccessarily know to which compound you could attribute sides to. Stick with the Drol/Test, by the time any sides that may come with Test begin to manifest themselves you will have already been off the SD
 
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And looking good btw, chest/bi especially...You wouldn't be a chest/bi kinda fella now would ya??..;)
 

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have fun with this....i loved my test/eq/sd cycle..... makes me want to shed a tear.. ;)
 

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And looking good btw, chest/bi especially...You wouldn't be a chest/bi kinda fella now would ya??..;)
Haha not any more bro. Back in high school I didn't have anyone really teach me about deadlifting or squats and all that good stuff so I was a chest/bicep dude to a degree.

As for the EQ being in my first cycle the main reason that I think it would help is that everybody says it is such a great appetite booster and my appetite is kinda weak so I figure if I really wanna bulk I have to eat like a horse.
 
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Yeah thats understandable, just completing this exact same cycle myself man I can tell you that you will not have any problems with appetitie on Drol/Test bro. Save the EQ for a Test/Tren/EQ when you'll need it...MwwwahahhahahMwwwhwhahahahahha..I mean, yeah..Anyway..Good luck man, whatever you decide to do
 
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If youre gonna stop the eq do it now so you dont waste. IMO, i would leave it in.

You only workout twice a week? wow. I could never do that, working out is just so fun to me i cant stay out of the gym. Hopefully you can workout 4x a week on this cycle, youll probably want to!

Have fun and be safe. I'll be watching as i plan on doing a similiar upcoming cycle. Thinking of what oral to use for jumpstart tho' as i still havent gotten my orig plan (dbol) yet.
 

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Yea like I said I hope to have more workouts in a week on cycle. Right now though I feel I need the time for recovery as I really don't want to overtrain.
 

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Nope, I feel no difference yet. I expected that though since they say it takes 4-5 weeks for the test to kick in. I was gonna start my SD tomorrow but my red yeast rice and extra milk thistle has not arrived yet so I may have to hold off a few more days on that.
 
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bump what same_old said.. I'd extend it.. EQ for 14 at least in my opinion..

and then I realized this is a first cycle, so I'll shut up and let you do your own d*mn thing.

I have faith in Tor for PCT.. I have absolute faith in it from my own experience.
 

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My problem with extending the EQ to 14 is that I don't have enough of it, maybe I will buy more though.

I have some nolva just in case but I really want to use the torem to avoid some of the negative side effects of the nolva.
 
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I'd run the Drol for 6 weeks, personally. :D

Bump to extending the EQ longer if you can.

Lookin good in the pics ya bashtad! ;)
 

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I'd run the Drol for 6 weeks, personally. :D

You can't be serious.:jaw: Wouldn't that just kill my liver? I am worried about using orals because they get a bad rap. But I stocked up on the SD before I came to the realization that injectables are the way to go so I don't wanna waste the sd.
 
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My liver does just fine on the stuff. I don't recommend orals at all however, for anyone but me that is.
 

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Yesterday was a push day and my third injection. Not noticing any real effects yet from the test as you can see from my numbers. I think I will push the SD off another week so I will start that next sunday and since the test is supposed to take 4-5 weeks to kick the end of my SD cycle should still sinc with the test kick in timing.

Here was my workout from yesterday.

bench 275x4
260x5
250x5
240x5

incline DB press
80's x 6
80's x 6
80's x 5
80's x 5


military press
125 x 7
125 x 7
125 x 5
125 x 5

bench dips one plate 4 sets of 10


Skull crushers
85 x 6
85 x 5
65 x 8
65 x 8
 

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OK, today I am halfway through the second week and I don't know why but I felt great!!! As far as I know nothing should be kicking in yet but I had some major improvments in my lifts and the DOMS seems to be reducing in time as well. I did my 4th inject today and I have only used both glutes for inject sites it seems to be enough to just alternate between the two glutes. Now on to the workout, it was my pull day so here it is:

pullups 10-7-5 a slight decrease in numbers here. this was the only decrease of the day.

powerclean 215 x 6 x 3 even though my numbers stay the same here I really powered through these and felt strong.

yates row 215 x 6 x 3

bent over row 185 x 6 x 3

curls 115 x 7
115 x 6
115 x 6

dead lifts 375 x 6 PR
375 x 5 PR
375 x 4

Deadlifts are where I am seeing great gains my previous PR was 4 reps at 375 so today I beat that twice!:D
 
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I looked but i didnt see it, did you start the superdrol yet? I bought dbol for my cycle which is almost identical to yours. Im going to do 14weeks EQ tho' probably at 600mg but not sure(i have 300mg/ml eq). I really want to see how you feel and what you gain from this. Its like you have a jumpstart on me so when i start youll be a few weeks ahead. Granted we arent the same but hopefully i can see what to expect from your cycle.

Now I have been wanting to use superdrol for a while now because i have a bunch and i hear all the good talk about it. I want to use dbol as well. Does anyone think superdrol would be a good tailend to the cycle?(also have winny and m1t). Now i know orals arent ideal and all but I want a monster cycle because i dont plan on cycling more than once each year, maybe two.
 

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No I have not started the superdrol yet because I just got my red yeast rice and extra milk thistle yesterday so I will be starting the SD on sunday. As far as what is better between Dbol and SD I think you are better off with the dbol since you can run it for four weeks instead of three so you can just start out with the dbol instead of waiting a little bit to start the oral like I am doing.

If you are gonna start with an oral and then end with and oral that could be getting pretty risky from a health standpoint. I think starting with an oral should be the best because you will get that huge boost from the oral and then right as you quit the oral the test is kicking in to make sure you don't lose those gains. Ending with an oral seems alot like running an oral only cycle since when the oral is done you are off all juice so you would have the same chances of losing your gains as if you were on an oral only.
 

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First day of SD today so I took that and gave myself a shot. I scraped my glute as I pulled the needle out and gave myself a nice scratch and some bleeding. My push lifts are up slightly from last push day.

bench 275 x 6
260 x 6
250 x 5
240 x 6

incline DB press 80s x 7
80s x 7
80s x 6
80s x 5

military press 135 x 6
135 x 6
135 x 5
135 x 4

bench dips, these are gay since I can only balance 1 plate.
10
10
10
10

skull crusher 85 x 8
85x 7
85 x 6
85 x 5
 

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today I felt my nipples and there is some soreness. What is a good on cycle dosing of toremifene to combat gyno?
 

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today I felt my nipples and there is some soreness. What is a good on cycle dosing of toremifene to combat gyno?
run 40mg for a couple days then drop to 20mg for a few then continue at 10mg ed for future prevention.
 

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An injection day to day as well as a pull day. I felt slightly unrecovered, had some soreness in my back still but I decided that I had to workout though. I was hoping that I would be able to workout more frequently on cycle but so far that is not the case.

pullups 11-9-9

powercleans, I ramped the weight up 10 pounds today on these as well as yates rows.

225 x 5
225 x 6
225 x 5

yates row

225 x 6
225 x 6
225 x 6

bent over bb row

185 x 6
185 x 6
185 x 6

bb curls

115 x 6
115 x 6
115 x 6

Deads

395 x 3
375 x 5
375 x 5
 

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Pushday!

Bench 275 x 6
265 x 8
255 x 7
275 x 4

incline DB 80's x 8
80's x 8
80's x 7
80's x 6

military 135 x 7
135 x 6
135 x 5
135 x 5

Bench dips 1 plate 10 x 4sets

skull crushers 85 x 7
85 x 6
85 x 6
85 x 5
 

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Pull day!

pullups 11-11-8

powerclean 235 x 2
225 x 6
225 x 5
225 x 5

Yates row 225 x 6reps x 3set

bent over barbell row 185 x 6 reps x 3 set

curls 115 x 6rep x 3 set

deads 395 x 4
375 x 6
375 x 6
 
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workout numbers are great but what about the effects you are getting? How are your injections going? What about the superdrol? sorry im just curious because im doing the same thing. Day 10 for me. I made a log in the cycle info section of the AAS section haha. Well i think you know why i had to go with the superdrol as my kickstart ;] kind of cant believe im still running this cycle. wish me luck.
 

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Everything is good. No sides really to speak of exept yesterday when I look in the mirror I noticed some body acne. I don't really care if I have acne so it doesn't matter much. I hope you didn't get in too much truoble though Piston, I would be pretty nervous if that had happened to me.
 

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Well today I officially noticed something. My weights went up as well as my stamina. I bumped my bench press weight up by 10lbs and I bumped my military by 20lbs so that felt good to do.

Push day!

Bench 285x6
285x6
285x5
285x4

DB incl bench 80's x 10
80's x 9
80's x 9
80's x 9

military 135 x 9
155 x 5
155 x 5
155 x 5

bench dips 1 plate 10reps x 4set

skull crusher 85 x 8
85 x 8
85 x 7
85 x 7

:woohoo:
 

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I got some tricep pumps yesterday, so that is the first I have noticed this side.
 

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Yesterday was another pull day.

powerclean 235 x 5
235 x 4
235 x 5

yates row 235 x 6
235 x 6
235 x 6

bent over rows 195 x 6
195 x 6
195 x 6


curls 115 x 6
115 x 6
115 x 6

deads 395 x 6
395 x 5
395 x 4


Sides are still pretty non existant, no back pumps, just some bicep pumps if I tried to get them I could. Numbers are going up nicely, so that's always good. Overall things are good.
 

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Today is the last day of the SD and I am up to 230 from 220 so that is about average gains from the sd.
 

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Ok now I am getting the whole roid rage thing setting in. It is like my fuse has been shortened and I get urges to just snap on people. Patience is a virtue however and I have been practicing my patience. Push day today and I have bumped up my weights again.


Bench 300 x 5
300 x 4
285 x 5
285 x 4

incline db bench 100's x 4
100's x 4
100's x 2
80's x 8

military 155 x 7
155 x 4
155 x 5
155 x 4

skull crushers 85 x 8
85 x 8
85 x 8
85 x 8
bench dips one plate 4 set x 10 reps

pretty good workout today went to 100's for incline press so thats a huge increase in weight.:bb2:
 
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im feeling my fuse shortened as well....no tren for me lol.
 

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im feeling my fuse shortened as well....no tren for me lol.
Ya the thing is that I have been wanting to try tren down the road myself so I will just try to make sure I don't give in to the urges to snap on people and if all goes well and I can keep under controll then I still may try tren in the future.
 

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Another pinning day today. Today I pinned my delt as was reccommended to me by Glen. All went smoothly. On another note I thought that I might feel recovered sooner while being on but so far this is not the case it seems that I need just as much recovery time as when I was natty.
 

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Another grueling pull day!

powercleans 240 x 2
235 x 4
235 x 4

yates row 235 x 6
235 x 6
235 x 6

bent over row 200 x 6
195 x 6
195 x 6

curls 115 x 6
115 x 6
115 x 6

deads 395 x 6
395 x 5
395 x 4
 

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Push day today along with another delt inject.

bench 300 x 6
300 x 4
300 x 4
290 x 4

DB incline bench 100's x 4
100's x 4
100's x 4
100's x 3

military 155 x 7
155 x 6
155 x 5
155 x 4

skull crusher 90 x 8
90 x 5
90 x 7
90 x 5
 

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I am getting pumps here and there and I feel lethargy all the time. And I have been off the superdrol for a while now.
 

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:woohoo: So today was a pull day. I really got under the 240 on powercleans today and I also had great success with my deads wich I jacked up 20lbs.

pullups 13 - 10 - 9

powerclean 240 x 6
240 x 5
240 x 6

yates row 240 x 6
240 x 6
240 x 6

bentover rows 200 x 6
200 x 6
200 x 6

curls 115 x 6
115 x 6
115 x 6

deads 415 x 6
415 x 5
415 x 4

All that roid rage is all worth it with days in the gym like this.
 

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I noticed that when I did my last delt inject that I injected a little low on the delt and I can see and area swollen up from the oil and it is slightly sore. Today I had an ok workout, my lifts seemed to stay about the same as last pull day I was hoping for an increase but didn't get it.

bench 315 x 4
300 x 5
300 x 4
300 x 4

DB incline press 100s x 5
100s x 5
100s x 5
100s x 3

military 155 x 7
155 x 5
155 x 5
155 x 5
skull crusher 90 x 9
90x 7
90 x 6
90 x 6

bench dips with 1 plate 4set x 10reps
 

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Well I had been up to as high as 235 in body weight but today I weighed in at only 230. I just started my workout but I am already having more trouble with the powercleans today than I had last week.
 

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Here is today's workout.

pullups 12-11-7

powercleans 240 x 6
240 x 6
240 x 4

yates row 240 x 6
240 x 6
240 x6

bent over bb row 200 x 6
200 x 6
200 x 6

curls 115 x 6
115 x 6
115 x 6

deads 415 x 5
415 x 3
415 x 1

I totaly gassed on the deads today, real dissapointed there. All the other lifts were ok though. I really gotta buckle down and keep my calories up.
 

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Push day. Had a mediocre day in the gym today...

bench 315 x 5
315 x 4
315 x 4
290 x 3

incl DB bench 100s x 4
100s x 5
100s x 4
100s x 3

military 155 x 8
155 x 6
155 x 5
155 x 4

skull crushers 90 x 8
90 x 8
90 x 8
90 x 7
 
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sorry but what week are you in b4ne? Im starting week 7 right now.
 

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I am currently in week 9 of 15. I haven't really noticed much of an appetite increase from the EQ yet either.
 

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