6 weeks of tbol OR 3 weeks of superdrol?
05-22-2006 01:17 PM
ill be doing 400-500/day cals over maintenance. i am hoping to put on 10lbs of lean gains. ill create a log when i start the cycle in early july.
id like to get a blood test 4 weeks into the cycle to try and decide whether to go 6 or 8 weeks. any suggestions on where to get it done?
05-22-2006 03:03 PM
Here is some more info about OT:
This drug can be seen as a cross between Dianabol (Methandrostenolone) and Anavar (Oxandrolone), taking what many feel are the best features of each of these drugs and combining them into a nice, clean bulking compound. Oral Turinabol is actually a derivative of Testosterone (the base structure is that of Dianabol, actually) and is typically referred to as a cross between Clostebol and Dianabol.
The base structure is just like Dianabol, with the same 4-chloro alteration seen in Clostebol, which prevents conversion to estrogen. Fortunately, the 4-chloro alteration makes it less subject to aromatization, so gynecomastia (development of breast tissue in males) isn't an issue, nor is excess water retention. Thus, the gains seen on OT are very clean and not the watery gains seen with its sister compound, Dianabol.
Just like Anavar and Dianabol, OT is a 17-alpha-alkylated steroid, which allows it to be orally active and survive the first pass through the liver without being destroyed. Unfortunately, this also increases liver toxicity. OT is, however, not too worrisome in this respect, as dosages typically hover around the 50mg/day mark.
Athletes who've recently been able to use this drug have reported that it's nearly as good for bulking as Dianabol, but with much less water retention. From what I've seen, weight gain with Oral Turinabol is generally a bit less than what's experienced with classic oral bulking agents such as Dianabol or Anadrol, but the gains are much more "dry" and lean.
I am sticking to running OT for 6 weeks followed by a 4 week PCT. And please drop the Rebound and use real AI's. Why would you use real gear, real SERM's and an over the counter AI? just some thought. I bet a real AI from a reputable research company is cheaper too
05-22-2006 03:25 PM
thanks trailer, it seems that the text you posted is on a lot of sites for the OT description. good info though and i appreciate the post.
i have been trying to locate blood test info for OT only cycles. ill keep looking and post if/when i find them.
05-23-2006 12:14 PM
that's bad advice. dont use non-steroidal AI's in PCT - the complete slaughter of estrogen is not what you want, plus it can often lead to rebound (so i hear)...this is almost universally agreed upon (i dont know all the science for it, so plz dont ask me for it)
Originally Posted by trailer36
05-23-2006 07:30 PM
Originally Posted by nattyHST
that sounds good !
from all what i have read in our german boards this would be fine! im also intertested to know how harsh it is on the liver, so i will look around at the boards, but i know that there isnt much out there. I only can say that its better than dianabol for your liver....
05-23-2006 08:07 PM
i would say 2 weeks 20mg Pheraplex and 5mg Superdrol
I did first 2 weeks at 2mg Superdrol and 20mg Pheraplex and
05-24-2006 03:01 PM
Originally Posted by choco
let me know what you find! from the little i have been able to find online it should be easier on my liver than any oral other than anavar. however, it should have much better results!
as for my pct, i am thinking about dropping the reboundxt and just sticking to nolva. i am not sure i like the idea of an untested product which has been consistantly used with superdrol in cases of delayed gyno. (obviously nothing proven, but why risk it?)
05-25-2006 11:52 AM
i`ll do.... you and the other guys please too.
let me know what you find! from the little i have been able to find online it should be easier on my liver than any oral other than anavar.
I think this is true, from all what i have heard and read.
better results than what? with OT you can gain clean mass and keep it good, strength goes up a bit too !
however, it should have much better results!
sounds ok for OT, clomid or nolva would be enough !
as for my post cycle therapy, i am thinking about dropping the reboundxt and just sticking to nolva.
For other steroids we use as pct: creatin and , clomid or nolva,and tribulus.
05-25-2006 12:00 PM
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
Drop it, RXT is not needed for non-aromatizing cycle. And same_old is right, completely decimating your Est in Post Cycle may lead to rebound (Well, I think so, but I'm a tard)
Originally Posted by nattyHST
05-25-2006 12:14 PM
2weeks 30mg ed 6 weeks 50mg ed T-Bol
Bloodwork: his liver data was only slightly higher.
(this 8 weeks was with tren and testo, and all guys think that with tren+testo, T-bol they dont feel!)
40-50mg ed good in mass and strength gain.
4weeks 50mg ed massgain was 8kg.
4weeks 30mg ed massgain was 6kg.
8weeks massgain 10kg
ok, but hmmm, nothing more about liver toxicity
when you dont know how much you should take, you can use this formula:
0.5 mg / kg Körpergewicht (this should be fine for BB'ers)
05-25-2006 04:02 PM
Originally Posted by choco
good finds on the OT cycles. the "1guy" liver test results are encouraging. from everything i have read OT is the best aas for sides vs. gains.
ill post if i find any blood tests, other please do as well. thanks for the input everyone.
05-26-2006 12:38 AM
ok so please everybody who has some information from reports from users from t-bol about liver toxicity please post the infos....
here i have found a *.pdf file which eventually would be interesting about t-bol. (i haven`t had time to read it completely at this time, maybe someone who reads ist can summarize it short?)
02-21-2010 02:23 PM
(I'm New) Has anyone cycled T-BOL with Hydroxycut Hardcore? I'm trying to gain muscle and cut bodyfat @ the same time...but i'm new to the game/want to make sure i'm on the right track.
02-21-2010 03:12 PM
Dude, really OLD thread. This is about a different T-Bol, Turanibol, a steroid. The current ph for this is halodrol or h-drol. I am sure the t-bol you are referring to is from ThermoLife and it is a test booster.
Originally Posted by bushi187
Gaining muscle and dropping BF can be done by manipulating your diet and training. Most test boosters will help also.
When an omega male is born it's game over
06-07-2011 11:00 PM
I was wondering if they were talking about a difff T-Bol...
Originally Posted by p5sky
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