Discussion can continue in this thread without all the BS.
Posted by aspire:
"-Q) Will this require a PCT?
Yes it will. AND PCT/Retain from AX will be provided for testers. Anytime one increases a hypertrophic level there is some anti-hypertrophic response by the body (high or low, but there at some level). As such, it is always best to make sure that all natural pro-hypertrophic hormones are at their best post cycle, thus PCT for stimulation intent.
AX has already pitted the compound against test propionate, Ergomax and 4-AD looking for a good comparison reference point. They were, so far, very happy with the positive results and lack of negative ones."
" It should be a great product. Most of the first testers gained in average 9 lbs in 4 weeks.
It should be ErgoMax style gains. No matter how powerful this it, it will not be marketed as a pro-hormone so get used to "
AX Herbal Hypertrophic- Unofficial FAQ
"The product info will be up within 7 days on the AX site.
Experienced PH users found in 12 weeks they gained 6 and lost 4 lbs in bodyfat
Cycle time is 12 weeks most non PH users found they gained 9lbs in muscle and lost 6 in bofyfat."
New from ANABOLIC XTREME--HYPERDROL
" I would never tell you that Hyperdrol will give you the sort of gains that Superdrol, Phera-Plex, or ErgoMax gave you."
Hyperdrol
Q: "Is this the herbal hyper?"
A: " Yes it is."
New from ANABOLIC XTREME--HYPERDROL
There just seems to be a lot of inconsistencies here. If there was a change in formula that is fine. Maybe they decided to move in a different direction and that is understandable. However, apperently this product elliceted amazing gains in 4 weeks, but less so in 12.
I realize that if the product is crap it will EVENTUALLY fail. However, I am sure that everyone remebers the second run of superdrol problem. Where all the testers gave overwhelmingly positive reviews. Testers always give better than average reviews. Maybe its because they pick good testers and they utilize the supplement to its fullest or maybe testers feel obligated slightly to embellish a little to repay the companies. I don't know, both are viable really.
Maybe everyone can understand my fustration now. Have I taken it to far, absolutely. I just want answer or an explanation. If it was reformulated, thats fine. I will drop the issue forever, I just want to get to the bottom of this."