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ok if 4-ad converts to test at 16% or so. how much 4-ad do you need to a) apply transdermally and b) intermuscuarly to equal 200mg a week.

i guess im asking what is the absorbtion of transdermal and IM.

also, i am thinking of using t1 for 6 weeks here soon, and then take a little bit off before another 6 weeker. then some time off before i try out a 10 week cycle of 4AD cyp IM, and maybe a transdermal 1-test, or just to 4ad cyp.


also have you used 4ad cyp and where your experience as far as strength goes.
 

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Curt2go's transdermal calculator, it has spaces to fill in and will tell you the amount you will absorb per week/day very good stuff! (just reduce the 1-test to 0 and play with the 4-ad to meet your needs)
http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=105crn=58&action=show&show_products_mode=cat_click

THe dosing scheme for t1-pro which also includes the amount you will absorb.
http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=335

Most important of all is this link it is your friend :) (Forum search)
http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/search.php?s=

Also are you talking about getting 200mg of test per week? Then im you would need about 1300 mg of 4-AD (1300*.16=205) But remember 4-ad has sides unconverted, and also is effective on it's own (maybe about 90% as active as test)

If you only want 200mg of 4-Ad a week, then injecting with non-cyp 4-Ad then you would need to inject ED or EOD or 200/7, if you it is a cyp-inject then you will need a little more 4-AD because of the extra weight the changes make to the molecule. But you can inject 2x a week and get the same results. Either way 200 mg of 4-ad injected = 200 mg of 4-ad.

There are numerous threads about injecting 4-ad, and the effects of 4-ad read them! They are in the prohormone section, and again use the search button.
 

DoubleDenim

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thank you that answered everything pretty much
 

elijah_123

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Not a problem, if you need anything else let us knwo :)
 

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Also realize that you need enzymes to convert the 4-AD. I dont know that it is something that can be easily calculated. 200/week I think is doable, but I do not know how much higher you can go, due to lack of enzymes.
 
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So, as far as enzymes are concerned, how much test from 4AD conversion do I get with my usual 1800mg oral dose?

If I take anything less than 1200mg. a day, I wouldn't get greasy skin, so that's how I gauge its effects..
 

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