Clomid vs Nolva for post cycle...

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  1. Thanks for posting that Lgoosey! I could have swore PA saying to take them all at once at dinner.
    No problem,

    BTW PA claims that the results from his study regarding 6-oxo effectiveness are very promising indeed.


  2. What dosage of nova should I use for post cycle. I did a search but all I found were posts regarding milligrams and I would think that would be for tabs. I have a liquid medicine dropper that is in ml.'s that I plan to use for the nolva.
    My post cylce is 6-oxo (2 bottles), liquid nolva, flax oil, ZMA, keep the cals up for a couple of weeks, and stick to my routine that I have been on.
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  3. Originally posted by metacat
    What dosage of nova should I use for post cycle. I did a search but all I found were posts regarding milligrams and I would think that would be for tabs. I have a liquid medicine dropper that is in ml.'s that I plan to use for the nolva.
    My post cylce is 6-oxo (2 bottles), liquid nolva, flax oil, ZMA, keep the cals up for a couple of weeks, and stick to my routine that I have been on.
    one bottle of liquid-nolva should last you one post cylce. most out there contains a total of 1000mg of tamoxifen citrate (around 20mg/mL concentration in a 50mL bottle). 2 mL/day (40mgs) would be a good dose. Sage

  4. So - with Nolva/6-oxo post...

    It should be 40mg/nolva per day?

    BigV

  5. Originally posted by BigVrunga
    So - with Nolva/6-oxo post...

    It should be 40mg/nolva per day?

    BigV
    you really only need one. 600mg/day 6oxo to start, tailing down to 400mg/day or 40-50mg/day nolvadex (thats 2mL) tailing down to 25-30mg/day would do the trick. If you have both and want to use the two together, 300-400mg/day 6oxo + 20-25mg/day nolva would work. Its not that hard BigV ( ) Sage
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  6. Thanks sage Replied in the other thread

  7. this should be a sticky.

  8. Thanks sage I got it now.
    I'll use 400mg/day of 6 oxo and 2ml/day of liquid nolva untill both are gone.
    Sage, it's sounds like ,by reading your post above, that one bottle of 6oxo will be enough for post cycle as long as I'm also using liquid nolva. I've been on a 6wk moderate dosage cycle.
    And I also want to say thanks sage for all your help on this subject.

  9. Originally posted by metacat
    Thanks sage I got it now.
    I'll use 400mg/day of 6 oxo and 2ml/day of liquid nolva untill both are gone.
    Sage, it's sounds like ,by reading your post above, that one bottle of 6oxo will be enough for post cycle as long as I'm also using liquid nolva. I've been on a 6wk moderate dosage cycle.
    And I also want to say thanks sage for all your help on this subject.
    here to help brah. and you right MC, with the use of both anti-est, you will be done with the 6oxo after 15 days (thats if you dont tail off to a lower dosage towards the later weeks of post). you'll be running the liquid nolva (assuming thats what you're using, and not tabs) will last you 25 days. That will be just fine to run 6oxo along side of nolvadex for the inital 2 weeks plus, and run nolva alone for the remaining. Sage

  10. That will be just fine to run 6oxo along side of nolvadex for the inital 2 weeks plus, and run nolva alone for the remaining. Sage
    Here's what Im planning on doing:

    6-oxo at 6 tabs/day for 2 weeks
    Nolva at 20mg/day for 4 weeks

    This way I will have a little less than 1/2 the vial of liqua-nolva left, I have 3/4 of a bottle of T1 left too. Another bottle of 6-oxo and I will have a 3week T1 cycle and enough for a solid post-cycle later on.

    BigV

  11. I wanted to ask, can one get away with running 20mg a day of (Nolva only), post cycle for 25 days? (I would be running a 4wk cycle of 1-test and 4ad). This way one vial would be good for two post cycle recoverys. In the clomid/ nolva article, it mentions nolva to be run at 20-40mg a day.......just trying to get the most bang for my buck.........or I could always go with the clomid.

  12. I would run the nolva at 40mg/day for the 1st week or two, then taper off to 20mg/day.

  13. It should be mentioned that while nolva may be the better choice by itself post cycle, clomid may be the better choice if combined with letrozole. Reports are that letrozole may decrease the effectiveness of nova by as much as 30%. Thus clomid + letrozole will probably be superior to nova by itself and may even be more effective than nova + letrozole.

  14. i've heard people stack nolva with 6-oxo and its a strong recovery, but what about clomid and 6-oxo? would that be okay to put together during a recovery?

  15. Originally posted by 2gcorey
    i've heard people stack nolva with 6-oxo and its a strong recovery, but what about clomid and 6-oxo? would that be okay to put together during a recovery?
     

    bumping for a response.

  16. I would say yes to the clomid/6-oxo for post. Nolva and clomid both work the same way - they block estrogen receptor sites. 6-oxo is an Aromatase inhibitor. (it stops testosterone from being converted into estrogen).

    I stacked Nolva with 6-OXO after 4 week T1 cycle and had an awesome recovery. The second week of recovery was rough, but after that, kept making gains as if I was on cycle! It was amazing. (gains in strength, not so much in muscle mass...) I was on 20mgNolva/day for 4 weeks and 6 6-OXO/day for the first week, and then 3 6-OXO a day until it ran out.

    I am planning on one more T1 cycle I will do the same post-cycle medication. You might want to consider 40/mg Nolva for the first week or so, or even substituting the 6-OXO with Arima-dex.

    Also - another vital tip for a good post cycle recovery is to UP THOSE CALORIES when you see the weight starting to drop...just up the clean carbs and back off the protien a little because you wont be able to use as much without the androgen in your system. (I used a 40-40-20 (p-c-f)ratio while on cycle and 30-45-25 while in recovery - the extra fats came from flax oil/seed and the extra carbs from brown rice and oatmeal.)

    Hope that helped...

    BigV

  17. I use Nolva, despite the price. I have never tried Clomid, but many people experience acne from it. I have problems with acne on-cycle, so I use Nolva. I used Nolve the 1st time, & got no acne, so I've stuck with it. It's only 10 bucks more anyway.
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