Tren Xtreme.. ever heard?
- 08-04-2009, 06:10 AM
I'm 54 and tried tren extreme by Americell labs after hearing about it on a news segment. It worked great for me. All gym performaces went up at least 30%. I ran it solo but I want to run another cycle as I lost most of my gains from the first run because I was told no pct was needed. Tren Extreme is no longer available due to gov/fed BS (go figure) but I found Exteme Tren which is the same supposedly. Can anyone recommend what to stack with it this time? I have read a lot about running H-drol in conjunction or either stagger it weekly. Also, what's a good pct? Forgive me if I don't know all the forum slang/lingo. I'm a newbie just like everyone was at one time or another.
- 08-18-2009, 04:25 PM
how was your liver damaged prior to you starting? have you got blood work done? at your age i wouldn't even start another cycle because even though its not methylated it is still hepatoxic
- 08-18-2009, 04:46 PM
08-18-2009, 05:45 PM
i cannot really give good advice on liver support, but i have taken the following.
AI cycle support, fish oil, hawthorn berry on cycle, along with multivitamins and tons of water and no fats. 16 oz of pure cranberry juice (organic)
pct nolva, 100% cranberry juice, vitamin C & E. Himalaya Liver Care aka Liv52 and tons of water.
I was told the liver responds really well to fresh squeezed lemon and grapefruit with epsom salt and cold pressed olive oil.
that's all i got. i'm assuming you don't drink anymore right? good luck
08-19-2009, 05:09 AM
No I didn't but I'll get the panel and ultra-sound done pre and post cycle this time. My ammonia level was elevated at one time but it had flutuated with or without supplements. I did a solo cycle of cyclobolan with novadex XT (bad sides i.e. testicular discomfort/pain) for pct prior to the solo Tren-Xteme cycle with six weeks in between. My best results were from the Tren-X but this time I'm wanting to stack it and got some feedback that H-drol (which I've already purchased) was the best. You recommend mma-3 over H-drol?
BTW, thanks for all the liver info. I will definitely include that in my arsenal.
08-19-2009, 06:59 PM
let me kno how your blood work goes because you my friend are brave or stupid. i also would like to compare. none of these guys have post blood work stats which would shed light on the dangers and how to do it right.
there was an actual case on the FDA ban info that a 37 year old needed a liver transplant and had significant kidney damage. i wonder if the ******* took double the dosage and stacked other things. its sucks they dont add that info when warning us. seems like a scare tactic, but thanks to that guy, this product is jumping in price.
i am on the fence about mma3 and h-drol. i have never tried h-drol but i have equal amount of buddies who swear by it. i had good gains from it. i gained 21 lbs and kept 19 lbs and still working out with less strength, but 6 months after i am up 23 lbs from my baseline pre-tren. i just use 3 types of protein and tons of it.
i will say this, its a great cheater pill but i could have gained the 20 lbs without it. it would have just taken 3 years or so...
08-19-2009, 09:09 PM
I've been called a little of both but the way I look at it is God, guardian angel or whoever didn't keep my on this side of the dirt to sit on my a** and do nothing. So I'm taking full advantage of the extended time I've been afforded. Although some say I push it to the limit including my cardiologist. I see my internal med doc tomorrow. I'm going to tell him about the cycle (tren/H-drol stack) and I want labs and bi-weekly blood work till I'm through with the pct.
There's two people you don't lie to and that's your doctor and your lawyer.
Like you said, I could probably get the gains I'm looking for without all the pharmacuticals but I'm on borrowed time as it is so why not tweak it a little? Have you ever tried 'cycle assist'? It's supposedly has all the liver support you mentioned earlier (hawthorn berry, etc.) already in it. 3 types of protein? I eat a lot of egg whites, fish, chicken, peanut butter and a good whey protein.
I'll keep you posted on the blood work stats.
08-20-2009, 04:30 AM
whey isolate protein; fastest absorption, hydrolyzed whey; general protein fast bloodstream absorption and easily digested, and casein protein slow-digesting protein.
your isolates are used in the a.m. and postworkout for rapid absorption. your hydrolyzed whey used in addition to or in between meals, your casein used before bedtime and also added to postworkout drinks.
08-20-2009, 04:45 AM
08-20-2009, 09:54 AM
08-26-2009, 12:11 PM
Thanks. I made the mistake of ordering from paramount supplements and I'm STILL waiting for them to send the rest of my order so I can start my cycle. I was going to order from nutraplanet in the beginning but they didn't have in stock what I was lookin for.
08-26-2009, 03:30 PM
Guy i know took it he grew breasts. Other friends who took it however had no problems and got noticeably bigger. The guy i knew who got tits made me not even consider this
09-01-2009, 07:27 PM
09-01-2009, 08:45 PM
I'm still on the learning curve but if nothing else I've learned that pct is very important.
BTW mlapid, blood work pre-cycle was almost texbook perfect. Almost because cholesterol was a little elevated. Been on cyclobolan for 2 wks and will have my blood drawn again tomorrow. I'll post the #'s as soon as I get the labs.
03-14-2011, 03:05 PM
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