Tren Xtreme.. ever heard?
- 04-16-2008, 12:57 AM
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- 04-16-2008, 06:54 PM
thanks a lot heebs u changed my whole vision toward tren haha now ill jus tell my friends that wen they brag to me how much stronger they are.
04-20-2008, 11:34 AM
I've also heard that if you us PH at a young age (18) your gains later (in life) will not be the same as if you had used at an appropriate age. is this true?
03-03-2009, 09:41 PM
Sorry for the thread jack. Back on topic.......
03-03-2009, 09:52 PM
make sure if you do the cycle you do it correctly with all the blockers and preventives the whole cycle will probably cost around 300
03-03-2009, 10:11 PM
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03-04-2009, 09:58 AM
03-04-2009, 10:12 AM
Your ignorance is keeping you from getting the point...
Most guys don't like to open up a thread at the top of the days page to find out some tool dug up a four year old thread...
It annoys the hell outta me, I don't need a nap.. I need you to get a clue, that I do care about very much.. I think there is hope for you, all you gotta do is take some self responsibilty and not try to blame me... that's the first step to pulling your head outta your ass before you suffocate.. I'm pullin for you, no pun intended..
03-04-2009, 11:45 AM
If you really want to make good gains that you're going to keep stay away from PH/PS/AAS, and stick with a good whey protein, BCAAs, creatine, and maybe a natural test booster like Activate Xtreme (but at your age it would prolly be a waste of $). I personally recommend AAEFX kre-alkalyn and Ergopharm Mass Meal to any high school kids that consult with me. I've seen high school athletes simply blow up on these products, and they're 100% safe.
As for worrying about what your friends are doing, DONT! (A lot of my friends in high school that i played football with used steroids and i never even supplemented with whey protein untill i was 17, but everyone thought i was the one on steroids because i knew how to train and diet properly.) Get yourself some reading materials and make sure your diet and training are on point. You're going to be healthier in the long run, and you'll still be gaining while they are plateuing from improper diet, training, and supplemenatation.
03-04-2009, 04:40 PM
Change your tampon and chill the fck out.
03-26-2009, 05:17 AM
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03-28-2009, 09:33 PM
speaking of Tren xtreme by ACL...was thinking of ruinning it for 4 weeks, AI cycle support and Novedex afterwards. any advice?
08-04-2009, 06:10 AM
I'm 54 and tried tren extreme by Americell labs after hearing about it on a news segment. It worked great for me. All gym performaces went up at least 30%. I ran it solo but I want to run another cycle as I lost most of my gains from the first run because I was told no pct was needed. Tren Extreme is no longer available due to gov/fed BS (go figure) but I found Exteme Tren which is the same supposedly. Can anyone recommend what to stack with it this time? I have read a lot about running H-drol in conjunction or either stagger it weekly. Also, what's a good pct? Forgive me if I don't know all the forum slang/lingo. I'm a newbie just like everyone was at one time or another.
08-18-2009, 04:25 PM
how was your liver damaged prior to you starting? have you got blood work done? at your age i wouldn't even start another cycle because even though its not methylated it is still hepatoxic
08-18-2009, 04:46 PM
08-18-2009, 05:45 PM
i cannot really give good advice on liver support, but i have taken the following.
AI cycle support, fish oil, hawthorn berry on cycle, along with multivitamins and tons of water and no fats. 16 oz of pure cranberry juice (organic)
pct nolva, 100% cranberry juice, vitamin C & E. Himalaya Liver Care aka Liv52 and tons of water.
I was told the liver responds really well to fresh squeezed lemon and grapefruit with epsom salt and cold pressed olive oil.
that's all i got. i'm assuming you don't drink anymore right? good luck
08-19-2009, 05:09 AM
No I didn't but I'll get the panel and ultra-sound done pre and post cycle this time. My ammonia level was elevated at one time but it had flutuated with or without supplements. I did a solo cycle of cyclobolan with novadex XT (bad sides i.e. testicular discomfort/pain) for pct prior to the solo Tren-Xteme cycle with six weeks in between. My best results were from the Tren-X but this time I'm wanting to stack it and got some feedback that H-drol (which I've already purchased) was the best. You recommend mma-3 over H-drol?
BTW, thanks for all the liver info. I will definitely include that in my arsenal.
08-19-2009, 06:59 PM
let me kno how your blood work goes because you my friend are brave or stupid. i also would like to compare. none of these guys have post blood work stats which would shed light on the dangers and how to do it right.
there was an actual case on the FDA ban info that a 37 year old needed a liver transplant and had significant kidney damage. i wonder if the ******* took double the dosage and stacked other things. its sucks they dont add that info when warning us. seems like a scare tactic, but thanks to that guy, this product is jumping in price.
i am on the fence about mma3 and h-drol. i have never tried h-drol but i have equal amount of buddies who swear by it. i had good gains from it. i gained 21 lbs and kept 19 lbs and still working out with less strength, but 6 months after i am up 23 lbs from my baseline pre-tren. i just use 3 types of protein and tons of it.
i will say this, its a great cheater pill but i could have gained the 20 lbs without it. it would have just taken 3 years or so...
08-19-2009, 09:09 PM
I've been called a little of both but the way I look at it is God, guardian angel or whoever didn't keep my on this side of the dirt to sit on my a** and do nothing. So I'm taking full advantage of the extended time I've been afforded. Although some say I push it to the limit including my cardiologist. I see my internal med doc tomorrow. I'm going to tell him about the cycle (tren/H-drol stack) and I want labs and bi-weekly blood work till I'm through with the pct.
There's two people you don't lie to and that's your doctor and your lawyer.
Like you said, I could probably get the gains I'm looking for without all the pharmacuticals but I'm on borrowed time as it is so why not tweak it a little? Have you ever tried 'cycle assist'? It's supposedly has all the liver support you mentioned earlier (hawthorn berry, etc.) already in it. 3 types of protein? I eat a lot of egg whites, fish, chicken, peanut butter and a good whey protein.
I'll keep you posted on the blood work stats.
08-20-2009, 04:30 AM
whey isolate protein; fastest absorption, hydrolyzed whey; general protein fast bloodstream absorption and easily digested, and casein protein slow-digesting protein.
your isolates are used in the a.m. and postworkout for rapid absorption. your hydrolyzed whey used in addition to or in between meals, your casein used before bedtime and also added to postworkout drinks.
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