I just popped my first Ergomax...

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  1. I haven't been going as heavy as I'd like, but I've been training consistently. I earned a few new stretchmarks tonight - or atleast I only noticed them tonight - after doing chest and triceps. My triceps exploded all over the gym.

    Otherwise.. What do new stretchmarks actually mean? A bigger pump than usual? I'm guessing that's the case because I really didn't notice these new marks last week...

  2. One other question.. I'm feeling soreness inbetween my pecs and shoulders.. It's not too bad when I'm actually lifting - the discomfort is mostly afterwards.. Sort of like a burning/sore feeling.. Can something like this be attributed to the Ergomax or FiniGenX?

  3. I think Pat Arnold said ErgoMax is about 70% DMT (Phera-Plex) and 30% of an isomer. Both E Max and PP will probably have fairly similar effects on your prostate.

    The stretch marks probably just mean you're growing. I got some near my underarms the first time I did One+.

  4. From what DS AX and SNS have said, PP is all the B isomer while E max LMG is a mix between the A and B isomer. This makes PP much stronger then E max LMG but E max is stil a good product.

    PP is either all of the A or all of the B whichever one of those is stronger, im pretty sure its the B though.
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  5. Exclamation Interesting...

    Hey all. I thought I'd make mention of how I'm doing. I'm on my 9th day and I've gained 6lbs. I'm getting 14 reps with what I struggled to get 4 with a week ago. Remember that I can't go too heavy because of my shoulder handicap. I'm responding pretty well. I haven't done as AAS cycle in over 10 years...

    I'm taking a small dose of FiniGenx at 9am; a dose of Ergomax at 10am; another small dose of FiniGenx at 4pm; a dose of Ergomax at 10pm; and a small dose of FiniGenx at 11pm. I'm also taking CEE daily.

    I'm feeling that the late doses will help the healing while I'm asleep. What I find very strange is how I have an extremely full, full-body pump when I wake up in the morning. It's like I just got out of the gym and had an amazing workout.

    Is this normal? I don't remember anything like this with Deca, Sustanon, Dianabol, Andriol or Finiplex (which I took wrong anyway)...

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Sir Savage
    I think Pat Arnold said ErgoMax is about 70% DMT (Phera-Plex) and 30% of an isomer. Both E Max and PP will probably have fairly similar effects on your prostate.

    The stretch marks probably just mean you're growing. I got some near my underarms the first time I did One+.
    One+... I loved that stuff! wish I had more. My best gains yet!

    Hey Zero, great log! I have a bottle of the Ergo waiting for Feb 1st.

  7. Yeah, One+ was the shizzle. Stuff made you blow up.

    I agree, this is a great log. So much so that I think I've decided to take FiniGenx with my Phera-Plex when I start in a week or two...

  8. Thanks. I didn't even mean for this to be a log but I suppose it's "something" of a log.. If any moderators see this, could you please rename my topic to Ergomax LMG / FiniGenx MiniLog?

  9. Man, I had a wierd workout. Tonight was back and bis.. My whole back had a ridiculous pump. One of my lats shot out and hit somebody in the back of the head. He jumped up, turned around, looked at me for a second, and then acted like nothing happened..

    Anyway, I think I'm experiencing the "back pump" people on SD talk about. It must be.. It was intense, and it screwed-up the second half of my back workout and the first half of my bicep workout.

    I have to admit my head got a little bigger before the gym tonight. Somebody was telling me how big I looked and that psyched me up. I worked out hard enough to feel naseaus and I was on the verge of getting a headache. I wonder if my blood pressure is going up. It's normally considered "low" - so I figure I have something to work with.. Maybe I'll start with some of the blood pressure supps right now. I didn't think I'd have to bother but I'm guessing I experienced a little high blood pressure this evening.. What do you think?

  10. Oh, P.S. My shoulders are always such a problem. That "discomfort" I'm feeling between my delts and pecs affected my curls today. Hammer curls were almost impossible - so I cut down from 3 or 4 sets to 2.. What the heck is this problem?

  11. I'm overwhelmed by all the feedback and help provided...

    Anyway. I'm still at about 6lbs gained and I'm now on my 12th day in.. On Monday night, I up my FiniGenx to the recommended double dose that I'm taking now. My strength is still going up. I'm doing 14 reps with perfect form with weight I couldn't do more than 4 sloppy reps with two weeks ago.

    I'd probably be gaining more weight if I could blast 6-8 heavy reps but my shoulders prevent me from doing that. Still, with the little bit I've gained, people are noticing. That's interesting. I'll probably be on this cycle for 8-10 weeks (6 for the Ergomax) and maybe I'll mix Prostanazol or something else toward the end (FiniGenx lasts 8-10 weeks).

    I think this cycle is really helping me to stay in the gym. Normally, I have to struggle with the weights and I think that's where my problem is with injuries. Now that I can lift quite a bit of weight for a lot of reps and actually do it extremely cleanly with excellent form, I'm not running into any problems...

  12. I'm sure a lot of people are reading your log with interest but don't want to clog it with useless non-advice and it's difficult to diagnose you by examining the computer screen.

    No matter, I'll be my usual maverick of the message boards and suggest you add Cissus Rx because this injury could be anything from tendon to muscle to (who knows?) ligament related. Since it's only your 12th day of many, it might have time to get delivered to you before you reach halfway through...

    Worth a try, IMO. The reviews are good.

  13. I do have Cissus. I'm a supplement freak and buy as much as I can as often as I can. It's a strange addition. Thank you for replying. When I did shoulders last night, the issue didn't really bother me. It's so strange. I'll start the Cissus, though...

  14. Nothing new as of late. I took a few much needed days of rest. It felt like a waste but then I felt much better in the gym last night. I did back and biceps, but took it easy on back - the last time my pump was just too much.. I'm still gaining strength - enough to do more weight with perfect form for high reps than I could do 4 cheating reps a few weeks ago...

  15. It's good, man. You know, if you can't take a break during your cycle, then you sure as heck can't take one during PCT, so WHEN will you take a break?

    I'd much rather take 2-3 days off while on cycle to avoid overtraining or a cold, than get sick in the first few days of PCT and have all my gains wiped off by 2 weeks sick...

    Keep us posted on what the Cissus does if you're taking it.

  16. Thanks. I held off on the Cissus as I've modified my training a bit - and the three day rest has helped. I'm training chest and tris tonight so I'll post back on how things go. I've gained 8 or 9 pounds but I haven't been going crazy with calories. I don't want too much fat gain. I'm on my 17th day.

    Something keeps telling me to switch from Ergomax LMG to my PP or SD right now.. I'm still doing the two doses of Ergomax per day as well as 6cc's of FiniGenx, three times daily...

  17. Maybe I'm just a big puss but I think I'm being smart.. I'm getting very strong but I'm not maxing out. Maybe that's the whole point of doing AAS - get stronger to lift more weight to get bigger - but I feel like I'll get hurt.

    Just to report on sides, like I mentioned earlier, I was having some prostate issues but that's under control. My skin is VERY oily and I'm a sweat-machine - so I'm getting acne.. My "crown" area on my scalp looked a little thin before, but I'm probably just being paranoid. I didn't have any gel in my hair so I think that was it.. I'm not finding any hair in the shower or anywhere - but my hair is very short so I guess it would just go down the drain. I'm not worried, I think if it IS falling out, it'll grow back afterwards. I use Minoxidil with Azelaic (spelling?) Acid and topical Spironolactone 5% lotion...

    I feel good. Sometimes I'm a little tired during the day. Lucky me, I get to nap. I think my stomach is getting bigger.. Bloated.. Another reason I can't eat too much - I gain weight very easily..

  18. Just a quick update. I've gained 10 pounds so far (tonight makes my third week). Keep in mind that I'm not lifting nearly as heavy as I can (I can't) and I'm not eating very much (don't want to gain too much fat). I'm doing this cycle as an experiment to see how well these compounds work for me and they're working very well...

  19. Today is my 35th day. I'm up 12lbs as of this morning. For the past few days, I've been taking 10mg of Ergomax in the morning, 10mg of Superdrol at night and 6ml of Finigenx 3x daily. I'll probably stop the Ergomax altogether and replace the morning dose with Superdrol in a day or two. My strength has gone up a lot on this cycle. I'm getting 6 reps with weight I couldn't budge beforehand. I'm being very careful because of various injuries - otherwise I'd likely have gained much more weight and strength by now..

  20. Holy crap! I think I have to be finished with SD. A couple of nights ago, I woke up with an incredibly bad cramp in my right arm. I couldn't straighten it at all - I had done heavy biceps and light back that night. I figured it was just because my workout was very intense..

    Today so far, I had a terrible cramp in my jaw when biting my breakfast sandwich, a terrible cramp in my neck while yawning, and now I just got a cramp in my stomach bad enough where I thought I was going to die. All I did was my normal abdominal flex to "sit up" in my chair and answer the phone..

    What the heck is going on? This morning was the first morning I took 10mg of SD in the AM instead of Ergomax. There's no way I can continue on like this. It's very damn scary...

  21. Anybody ever hear of this happening or what?

  22. I get bad cramps while on cycle as well. I take potassium and taurine and they seem to help. Extreme stretching after training seems to help me even more than the supps. They also seem to help with gains and recovery, but I don't think this is applicable to your jaw unless anyone out there knows of some wierd facial stretching exercise.

    On another note...

    One of my lats shot out and hit somebody in the back of the head.
    I'm trying to picture this... I have never experienced this particular side effect, lol.

  23. Are these cramps sought of the same thing as the "back pumps" I read about? I do have Taurine and I'll start taking it right now if it'll allow me to stay on the SD for my 2 or 3 weeks.. I just wasn't sure if what I was feeling was the same thing. Any more input would be greatly appreciated..

    And yes, the "lat shoot" is a wierd side effect.

  24. Drink lots of water on SD.

  25. Ive not tried SD yet but when I was on m1T I had a cramp in my jaw that was so bad it almost brought me to tears...ha ha ha. But of course I didn't stop and fortunately it was the only one I had. Ive heard the two are close.

    When u first started on Ergo when did you feel it kick in? Like I said I have used M1t several times in the past and it always kicked in about 5-6 days in. This is day three on Ergo(20) and swear I already feel the ****. I don't think it placebo because to be honest I am skeptical that it will do much...but my attitude is defiantly changing after reading your results.


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