I just popped my first Ergomax...
12-02-2005 09:22 AM
What does an iffy prostate feel like? Just wondering?
12-02-2005 09:26 AM
Bloating, primarily. Uncomfortable to sit (which I do all day). Even uncomfortable to walk. Urination a bit restricted...
12-02-2005 12:24 PM
Cissus works gradually stregthens bones and tendons, it has angeleslic properties as well. I think it would be a great addition to your stack due to your pre condition plus the strength increase you will have which may cause further stress on your shoulder when working out other area that indirectly work the shoulder.
Are you taking anything for Cholesterol? 209 is a little high and additional androgens will only increase that number. Niacin, garlic, red yeast rice all are good, easy to get additions.
12-02-2005 07:33 PM
Another FYI. I'm having a little less prostate trouble after using the Saw Palmetto and Beta Sitosterol. Maybe it's just a placebo affect, but that's good enough for me. It's not perfect, but an improvement. Let's see how I feel tomorrow...
12-04-2005 12:01 AM
I've been reading here about how PP is a lot like Ergo with less Androgenic side effects.. I just purchased two bottles of PP and even though I'm doing better as far as my prostate in concerned (the Saw Palmetto and Beto Sitosterol are helping) - I still have a tiny bit of discomfort. I'm curious about whether or not PP will have even less effect on my prostate. Would it be okay to switch right now since both Ergo and PP are relatively similar?
Thanks in advance...
12-05-2005 10:48 PM
I haven't been going as heavy as I'd like, but I've been training consistently. I earned a few new stretchmarks tonight - or atleast I only noticed them tonight - after doing chest and triceps. My triceps exploded all over the gym.
Otherwise.. What do new stretchmarks actually mean? A bigger pump than usual? I'm guessing that's the case because I really didn't notice these new marks last week...
12-06-2005 10:46 AM
One other question.. I'm feeling soreness inbetween my pecs and shoulders.. It's not too bad when I'm actually lifting - the discomfort is mostly afterwards.. Sort of like a burning/sore feeling.. Can something like this be attributed to the Ergomax or FiniGenX?
12-06-2005 11:25 AM
Avant's #1 Stunna'
I think Pat Arnold said ErgoMax is about 70% DMT (Phera-Plex) and 30% of an isomer. Both E Max and PP will probably have fairly similar effects on your prostate.
The stretch marks probably just mean you're growing. I got some near my underarms the first time I did One+.
12-06-2005 01:51 PM
On my grind
From what DS AX and SNS have said, PP is all the B isomer while E max LMG is a mix between the A and B isomer. This makes PP much stronger then E max LMG but E max is stil a good product.
PP is either all of the A or all of the B whichever one of those is stronger, im pretty sure its the B though.
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12-07-2005 10:14 PM
Hey all. I thought I'd make mention of how I'm doing. I'm on my 9th day and I've gained 6lbs. I'm getting 14 reps with what I struggled to get 4 with a week ago. Remember that I can't go too heavy because of my shoulder handicap. I'm responding pretty well. I haven't done as AAS cycle in over 10 years...
I'm taking a small dose of FiniGenx at 9am; a dose of Ergomax at 10am; another small dose of FiniGenx at 4pm; a dose of Ergomax at 10pm; and a small dose of FiniGenx at 11pm. I'm also taking CEE daily.
I'm feeling that the late doses will help the healing while I'm asleep. What I find very strange is how I have an extremely full, full-body pump when I wake up in the morning. It's like I just got out of the gym and had an amazing workout.
Is this normal? I don't remember anything like this with Deca, Sustanon, Dianabol, Andriol or Finiplex (which I took wrong anyway)...
12-07-2005 11:12 PM
One+... I loved that stuff! wish I had more. My best gains yet!
Originally Posted by Sir Savage
Hey Zero, great log! I have a bottle of the Ergo waiting for Feb 1st.
12-08-2005 04:47 PM
Avant's #1 Stunna'
Yeah, One+ was the shizzle. Stuff made you blow up.
I agree, this is a great log. So much so that I think I've decided to take FiniGenx with my Phera-Plex when I start in a week or two...
12-08-2005 05:14 PM
Thanks. I didn't even mean for this to be a log but I suppose it's "something" of a log.. If any moderators see this, could you please rename my topic to Ergomax LMG / FiniGenx MiniLog?
12-08-2005 09:32 PM
Man, I had a wierd workout. Tonight was back and bis.. My whole back had a ridiculous pump. One of my lats shot out and hit somebody in the back of the head. He jumped up, turned around, looked at me for a second, and then acted like nothing happened..
Anyway, I think I'm experiencing the "back pump" people on SD talk about. It must be.. It was intense, and it screwed-up the second half of my back workout and the first half of my bicep workout.
I have to admit my head got a little bigger before the gym tonight. Somebody was telling me how big I looked and that psyched me up. I worked out hard enough to feel naseaus and I was on the verge of getting a headache. I wonder if my blood pressure is going up. It's normally considered "low" - so I figure I have something to work with.. Maybe I'll start with some of the blood pressure supps right now. I didn't think I'd have to bother but I'm guessing I experienced a little high blood pressure this evening.. What do you think?
12-08-2005 09:34 PM
Oh, P.S. My shoulders are always such a problem. That "discomfort" I'm feeling between my delts and pecs affected my curls today. Hammer curls were almost impossible - so I cut down from 3 or 4 sets to 2.. What the heck is this problem?
12-10-2005 11:30 AM
I'm overwhelmed by all the feedback and help provided...
Anyway. I'm still at about 6lbs gained and I'm now on my 12th day in.. On Monday night, I up my FiniGenx to the recommended double dose that I'm taking now. My strength is still going up. I'm doing 14 reps with perfect form with weight I couldn't do more than 4 sloppy reps with two weeks ago.
I'd probably be gaining more weight if I could blast 6-8 heavy reps but my shoulders prevent me from doing that. Still, with the little bit I've gained, people are noticing. That's interesting. I'll probably be on this cycle for 8-10 weeks (6 for the Ergomax) and maybe I'll mix Prostanazol or something else toward the end (FiniGenx lasts 8-10 weeks).
I think this cycle is really helping me to stay in the gym. Normally, I have to struggle with the weights and I think that's where my problem is with injuries. Now that I can lift quite a bit of weight for a lot of reps and actually do it extremely cleanly with excellent form, I'm not running into any problems...
12-10-2005 11:46 AM
I'm sure a lot of people are reading your log with interest but don't want to clog it with useless non-advice and it's difficult to diagnose you by examining the computer screen.
No matter, I'll be my usual maverick of the message boards and suggest you add Cissus Rx because this injury could be anything from tendon to muscle to (who knows?) ligament related. Since it's only your 12th day of many, it might have time to get delivered to you before you reach halfway through...
Worth a try, IMO. The reviews are good.
12-10-2005 12:16 PM
I do have Cissus. I'm a supplement freak and buy as much as I can as often as I can. It's a strange addition. Thank you for replying. When I did shoulders last night, the issue didn't really bother me. It's so strange. I'll start the Cissus, though...
12-15-2005 04:32 PM
Nothing new as of late. I took a few much needed days of rest. It felt like a waste but then I felt much better in the gym last night. I did back and biceps, but took it easy on back - the last time my pump was just too much.. I'm still gaining strength - enough to do more weight with perfect form for high reps than I could do 4 cheating reps a few weeks ago...
12-15-2005 05:04 PM
It's good, man. You know, if you can't take a break during your cycle, then you sure as heck can't take one during PCT, so WHEN will you take a break?
I'd much rather take 2-3 days off while on cycle to avoid overtraining or a cold, than get sick in the first few days of PCT and have all my gains wiped off by 2 weeks sick...
Keep us posted on what the Cissus does if you're taking it.
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