Halodrol-50 vs Phera-Plex

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by poopypants
    Damn man everyone sign a petition and send it to em' id gladly take a bottle of PP or a JOB


    No im just a firm beliver in sharing a good thing. it goes for everything that i find that works for me. And i work in a sales company so i know how to relate to the customer, especially with real world results.

    but ya i meant to actually quote both you guys if you read the first half adresses your part and the second adresses his

    SO WHATS UP AX SNS DS? you guys need someone to shout for you?
    You PHERAPLEX whore. I taught i was bad with FINIGENX :-)


  2. For the record, b/c of diplomat, I just orderd some FiniGenX. I would have ordered some PP also, but I think I am done with methyls for a while. You both deserve some recognition for salesmen of the year.
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  3. [QUOTE=poopypants] And i work in a sales company so i know how to relate to the customer, especially with real world results.
    QUOTE]
    I knew it!!!!
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  4. Well i can second the results of pp, i have pics, and doing a recomp with the help of basic Cuts. I am running pp at 8 weeks with my last dose being on the 3 of Dec 2005 so i will be posting pics to show the effects of this wonderful supp !!!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by desmo996
    For the record, b/c of diplomat, I just orderd some FiniGenX. I would have ordered some PP also, but I think I am done with methyls for a while. You both deserve some recognition for salesmen of the year.
    Dude you are going to love it!!!

  6. Question for you PP Users:

    I started out PP with 20mg for first few days, and have upped it to 30mg for over a week. I am also using Prostan at 100mg, and haven't noticed much. (I gained about a pound...eating 3500 cals)
    I responded great to SD (2nd cycle was at 20mg)
    weight is 205.

    Should I:

    a) stay at 30mg for the next 2 weeks
    b) increase to 40mg
    c) cut PP to 20mg, and add 10mg of SD
    d) increase calories dramatically

    Thanks in advance

  7. [quote=EESCHMan]Question for you PP Users:

    I started out PP with 20mg for first few days, and have upped it to 30mg for over a week. I am also using Prostan at 100mg, and haven't noticed much. (I gained about a pound...eating 3500 cals)
    I responded great to SD (2nd cycle was at 20mg)
    weight is 205.

    Should I:

    a) stay at 30mg for the next 2 weeks
    Why did you start out so high?
    b) increase to 40mg
    Increasing to 40mg may amplify the side effects
    c) cut PP to 20mg, and add 10mg of SD
    Do not stack them together bro
    d) increase calories dramatically
    Calories were supposed to be increased two-three weeks before you started this cycle

    Thanks in advance

    This is what you should have ran

    WEEK 1 pp=10MG
    WEEK 2 PP=20MG
    WEEK 3 PP=20MG--- Superdrol=10mg
    WEEK 4 PP=30MG ---Superdrol=10mg
    WEEK 5 ------------ Superdrol=20mg
    WEEK 6 ------------ Superdrol=20-30mg

    WEEK 7 to 12 PCT

  8. Quote Originally Posted by EESCHMan
    Question for you PP Users:

    I started out PP with 20mg for first few days, and have upped it to 30mg for over a week. I am also using Prostan at 100mg, and haven't noticed much. (I gained about a pound...eating 3500 cals)
    I responded great to SD (2nd cycle was at 20mg)
    weight is 205.

    Should I:

    a) stay at 30mg for the next 2 weeks
    b) increase to 40mg
    c) cut PP to 20mg, and add 10mg of SD
    d) increase calories dramatically

    Thanks in advance
    i suggest the same as far as doing a transition to SD but you want to save the PP portion of your cycle too. DO NOT UP THE DOSAGE! you dont need more hormones especially with such a strong compound like PP. dont just up your kcals dramatically either. reasses your entire diet, make sure its in line then set it up so your getting adequate Protein and Complex carbs and at the right times throughout the day. id take your PP with high carb meals, i did and would get pumps just from eating, then it increases your glycogen storage wich translates into tons of in gym strength and endurance.

    hope this helps and the rest of your cycle is a success.

  9. I started at 20mg, at about 2900 calories.
    About 5 days in I wasn't noticing any sides/changes, so upped it to 30mg, and increased calories to 3400, and eventually to 3500/3600, which they are now. Wed will be the start of week 2.
    I started the prostan at 75mg, and increased to 100mg (when I increased the PP).

    c) cut PP to 20mg, and add 10mg of SD
    Do not stack them together bro
    Isn't this what you suggest later?

    This is what you should have ran

    WEEK 1 pp=10MG
    WEEK 2 PP=20MG
    WEEK 3 PP=20MG--- Superdrol=10mg
    WEEK 4 PP=30MG ---Superdrol=10mg
    Should I def. do 4 weeks?
    I was planning a 3 week cycle

    Thanks

  10. i just realized you only a week in? now most guys start to feel it kick in their first week but just cause it doesnt for you dont start throwin back the pills, try one more week @ 20mg see how it goes, keep you cals high and make sure to hit the gym at least 4 times this week. if you dont see any changes and your certain everything is straight then up to 30mg till its all gone, wich should be only another week or so. if it doesnt work for you then youll be the first one ive heard of thats a nonresponder, that is if your being truthfull with us about your diet/training.
    either way good luck bro.
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  11. Thanks Poopy...
    I workout 3 days on/1 off, and my diet is approx 40/40/20...basically the same as my SD Diet in which I gained 13 lbs in 3 weeks.

    I'll drop it down to 20mg and see how it goes. I've got 2 bottles of PP coming, with some Prostan (2), and I still have one full bottle of SD, and a little left of my original SD bottle.

    After this I'll take a long time off, and maybe use it before spring to cut/recomp.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by EESCHMan
    SD Diet in which I gained 13 lbs in 3 weeks.
    You may have followed your previous SD cycle with your current PP cycle to soon. Even if this is the case you can still recomp your body and increase muscle size...just let the mirror not the scale reflect your results.

    Quote Originally Posted by EESCHMan
    I workout 3 days on/1 off
    I know you said you followed this routine during your SD cycle and gained BUT I would suggest that you hit each muscle group at least twice per week. You recover quicker on prohormones/AAS so why not take advantage of this and the increased protein synthesis?

    On SD I replaced my 3 days on 1 day off with 3 days on 0 days off hitting each body part 7 times in 3 weeks.

    These are just a couple of thoughts...may or may not be helpful.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Apowerz6
    Well i can second the results of pp, i have pics, and doing a recomp with the help of basic Cuts. I am running pp at 8 weeks with my last dose being on the 3 of Dec 2005 so i will be posting pics to show the effects of this wonderful supp !!!
    Def. let us know when you get the pics up. Some hard facts about the effectivness of PP would be really welcomed.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  14. I keep trying to put pics up on my basic cuts log, and i cannot do it !!! So I am going to try to load once more

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Apowerz6
    I keep trying to put pics up on my basic cuts log, and i cannot do it !!! So I am going to try to load once more
    if you have to go to a site like photobucket.com and open account then upload your photos there. its free and then you can link picks insert HTML's and all sorts of jazz from there site.

  16. I have one pic now, but it seems i have committed a faux pas by taking a pic by the mirror. Anyway, thanks poop, i mean a pimp named poopypants, i want to know can i have all your Phera plex knowledge since you are on m-trn. Keep Pimpin alive !!!

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Apowerz6
    I have one pic now, but it seems i have committed a faux pas by taking a pic by the mirror. Anyway, thanks poop, i mean a pimp named poopypants, i want to know can i have all your Phera plex knowledge since you are on m-trn. Keep Pimpin alive !!!
    haha, ya man its ok im hoping blood turns out ok on the tren so i can throw PP on the end, but in all honesty i dont see that happening. M-TRN is some tough stuff and im certain its doing a number on my liver, oh well I can hope.

    and i dont got no knowledge i just make **** up. j/k

  18. Quote Originally Posted by poopypants
    yes and no.

    many of the guys have contemplated doing the same, run PP for 6 weeks cause they feel so good on, but now that you point it out i dont see why not stay on PP by itself as long as the lipids look good and gains are still comin.

    i actually suggested it that way cause i used it @ 10/20/30/20 and really liked what i saw with 30 and it uses the entire botlle. but when i did it like above it was cause i was switching to SD and i most like to end their cycle at higher dosages to push the gains to the end.

    as for the 6 weeks thing its not something id suggest though if its your first time on PP youll want to see how PP effects you and if you can tolerate it.

    ill tell you it seems to me to be heads and tails above EMAx. one its all the superior 2-ene and much cleaner then EMax. many have found the good effects of emax to be pronounced and the bad sides experienced seemed to diminish until not existant or "a little acne". no one ive talked to or myself have gotten really bad acne or oily skin or gyno and the few guys i talked to that said specifically that they new they were proned to MPB didnt see any negative effect in their hairline. i think that any MPB aggrivation can easily avoided with minimal measures and might be a consideration incase it really worries you.

    hope that helps bro
    I just dont see how PP Can be be so androgenic yet not produce androgenic sides such as hair loss. Has anyone who is prone to MPB run a cycle of it? Its hard to tell what the hell half of these new PH's are. I wish there was an honest, no BS write-up on PP telling what AAS is most closely resembles and what it actually IS in your system. At least with Halodrol-50 you know its basically Tbol and knowing what it is makes the decision easier.
    I still dont know what the hell PP is hah.
    That which does not kill us makes us stronger - Friedrich Nietzsche

  19. In many cases comparing things to something else based on similarities "on paper" is simply a guess. By altering chemicals even slightly you can dramatically impact their effects. Take for example boldenone vs dbol. Boldenone is a very lean dry gainer yet when you methylate it bang you have mass building wet dbol. A lot of the comparisons that are made to existing compounds are as much marketing as anything. Beyond that some of the new chemicals are just that....new,...unexplored terrain.

  20. its true these new chems are sometimes only able to be likened in the way they effect you to the old ones and not allways are the comparisons accurate.

    i thought i said in this thread but it must have been another ive talked to a acouple guys who ran this which were proned to MPB and neither saw negative effects. one said hewas taking letro (i think) and the other saif he just took the PP and didnt see any loss.

    ya its a little hard to belive its so strong without the sides but isnt that exactly what weve been asking for and the developers looking for? a superior supp w/o the sides? so its very logical that one of these compounds have been found and its 2-ene. i cant make you belive bro and neither can any of these other bros, which there are many on here now running PP (w/o sides i might add, check magikks log and cybermuscles log) but youll have to see the insanity for yourself.

    good luck on your choice though bro . peace!

  21. I'm wondering how PP with 1ad and 4ad stand in a cycle? I couldn't find any info on this - with 1AD & PP both being quite androgenic i guess it would be better to split it up than to run them together. How would this look:

    week 1-4 = 1AD & 4AD
    week 5-8 = PP
    week 9-12 = PCT

    Or would this be better ran as two seperate cycles?

  22. i wanted to know if halodrol would show positive on a drug test, and if it would for how long in ur system. thanks

  23. Man after reading this i'll have to buy some pp. since i know where to get some for 27 bucks a bottle.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by ross21
    i wanted to know if halodrol would show positive on a drug test, and if it would for how long in ur system. thanks
    Drug test for what?

  25. I started out PP with 20mg for first few days, and have upped it to 30mg for over a week. I am also using Prostan at 100mg, and haven't noticed much. (I gained about a pound...eating 3500 cals)
    I responded great to SD (2nd cycle was at 20mg)
    weight is 205.
    Well, I guess it just took a while for the PP to kick in. (and I dropped it back to 20mg)
    I've been eating approx 3600 calories (pretty much the same as when I first posted in this thread) and I just weighed in at 213 this morning! (today is the end of my 3rd week)
    That's about 8lbs in a week...pretty good.
    I have about 5 or so days left of the PP and then I start PCT with Ultra Hotter (need to get rid of it), and Retain.
    I'll be getting 2 NHA Stacks and wasn't sure if I should wait till after PCT to use one, or take some time off from everything before using.

    What do you guys think?

    Thanks

  26. Quote Originally Posted by David220
    Man after reading this i'll have to buy some pp. since i know where to get some for 27 bucks a bottle.
    Where?
    That which does not kill us makes us stronger - Friedrich Nietzsche

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Jmart603
    check sponsors. i think some tropical one has some...
    I looked into it. It is indeed a sponsor - Island Supplements.

    They have an amazing sale on Anabolic Xtreme stuff right now. All his prices look extremely competitive. Many are lower than Bulk Nutrition. His feedback appears to be very solid also. I'm going to be giving this guy some business. Its the smaller/new supplement companies that really need the support of our community.
    That which does not kill us makes us stronger - Friedrich Nietzsche

  28. I know this thread has kinda strayed from the original topic but I didn't think one post was worth starting a new thread over. I had a couple packs of Halodrol-50 that were on backorder and I got a call this morning from the vendor I ordered from saying that Gaspari had placed a recall on the product and was discontinuing it.... aparently no reason was given yet. I changed my order to Phera-Plex but I'm in PCT time now so won't be getting to it until later, perhaps February since I'm going to China for a month right after Christmas and I may not have a gym to train at. So for now, I'm just enjoying everyone else's logs.

  29. I just bought two bottles of Phera-Plex myself..

  30. Oops. Okay, I just bought two more bottles, this time from Island...

    And half price, at that!!
  

  
 

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