KICKSTART WITH DMZ!

[Mak1990]

I was wondering can someone kick start their cycle with 20mg dmz for two weeks?

 

[Jebrook]

I was wondering can someone kick start their cycle with 20mg dmz for two weeks?

Of course you could but I don’t think that will do much other than damage liver and lipid levels. I would prefer to kickstart with 30-40 mg of DMZ for 4-5 weeks. Or even 20 mg for 5-6 weeks.

 

[Renew1]

I was wondering can someone kick start their cycle with 20mg dmz for two weeks?

Why only 2 weeks??

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Dmz would make a great kickstarter, but as everyone else has said, it would definitely shine best at 4-6 weeks.

 

[Mak1990]

Dmz would make a great kickstarter, but as everyone else has said, it would definitely shine best at 4-6 weeks.

I only have 28- 10mg pills

 

[Mak1990]

Why only 2 weeks??

Only have 28-10mg caps

 

[Mak1990]

Of course you could but I don’t think that will do much other than damage liver and lipid levels. I would prefer to kickstart with 30-40 mg of DMZ for 4-5 weeks. Or even 20 mg for 5-6 weeks.

Only have 28-10mg caps

 

[AnabolicGuru]

I would just buy more then. Vicious Labs is supposed to be great stuff and they’re currently selling it. They’re a board sponsor here as well, so you have easy access to the owner, representatives, discount codes, etc

 

[Jebrook]

I would just buy more then. Vicious Labs is supposed to be great stuff and they’re currently selling it. They’re a board sponsor here as well, so you have easy access to the owner, representatives, discount codes, etc

I’ve used their DMZ. It is indeed quality stuff.

 

[Renew1]

I’ve used their DMZ. It is indeed quality stuff.

Me too. I've used 3 of their products. They're one of the best.

 

[PoSiTiVeFLoW]

Of course you could but I don’t think that will do much other than damage liver and lipid levels. I would prefer to kickstart with 30-40 mg of DMZ for 4-5 weeks. Or even 20 mg for 5-6 weeks.

Dang 30-40mg daily, that's a high dose to me... I used BSL and German Pharma DMZ (aka M-Drol) mainly to start at 10mg caps and I usually start with 10mg and work up to 20mg after a week acclimation. DMZ is easily a favorite, puts mass on like a mofo when eating and training.

I have some PRO brand DMZ at 25mg caps, but I plan on start with German Pharma at 10mg when I finally get back on the horse here soon and use the PRO at 25mg once I'm acclimated again. And perhaps use a Test E base this time, it does supress a bit at end of cycle lol.

Never tried 30-40mg DMZ yet. Need like a full gram of TUDCA daily? Full cycle support support too. Sh*t ton of H20 imagine.

Definitely agree 4 weeks is where it's at for cycle length of DMZ, even 3-4. Stuff acts fast, can see initial results week one.

 

[mikeymike85]

Ive used low dose DMZ as a kickstart for 3-4 weeks or so....I actually liked it a lot as a kickstart. Kicks in very quickly.

 

[Jebrook]

Dang 30-40mg daily, that's a high dose to me... I used BSL and German Pharma DMZ (aka M-Drol) mainly to start at 10mg caps and I usually start with 10mg and work up to 20mg after a week acclimation. DMZ is easily a favorite, puts mass on like a mofo when eating and training.

I have some PRO brand DMZ at 25mg caps, but I plan on start with German Pharma at 10mg when I finally get back on the horse here soon and use the PRO at 25mg once I'm acclimated again. And perhaps use a Test E base this time, it does supress a bit at end of cycle lol.

Never tried 30-40mg DMZ yet. Need like a full gram of TUDCA daily? Full cycle support support too. Sh*t ton of H20 imagine.

Definitely agree 4 weeks is where it's at for cycle length of DMZ, even 3-4. Stuff acts fast, can see initial results week one.

Yes, the length of time is the key here. I’m definitely not saying a 20 mg daily dose is worthless. But 20 mg at only 2 weeks would leave a lot to be desired. The only Kickstarter I use less than 4 weeks is Superdrol. 40 mg is a hefty dose that most will tolerate well while adding 15-20 lbs right at the beginning of a long cycle. 750-1000 mg of TUDCA and an all around cycle support like KingsGuard is what I typically use.

 

[PoSiTiVeFLoW]

Hey Jebrook, quick question. What about 1-Alpha (M1AD I think from PRO). I have that in 25mg caps, and also a couple bottles of 20mg caps of M1T coming from Advanced Pharma in UK.

After the Test E and DMZ start up, thinking of adding some M1T or M1AD. I've already ran Blackstone Labs Alpha 1 Max a couple times, so I know how M1AD feels, pretty potent. I assume 20mg M1T is not overkill? I see some forums suggesting 10mg ramp to 20mg, etc? If I'm blasting mad TUDCA and Cycle Support, with enough H20 should be OK?

 

[YoungThor]

I’d wait until you have more and run it longer as others have said. Be careful if you’re prone to anxiety or panic attacks. DMZ can worsen these issues by a lot.

 

[PoSiTiVeFLoW]

I’d wait until you have more and run it longer as others have said. Be careful if you’re prone to anxiety or panic attacks. DMZ can worsen these issues by a lot.

Naw I'm good, used DMZ before one of my favorites, no panick attacks... if anything I feel more confident on it.

Right now, I just started a Test E + EQ warmup 300mg:300mg per week. Once I finish my EQ, I'll cut over to Test E + DMZ run, I have plenty of DMZ and have plenty of 1-alpha (M1AD) @ 25mg and 2x bottles of M1T @ 20mg coming from UK, and also if bored: Superdrol bottles, Epistane, etc. And for Sarms, LGD-4033, RAD-140, also in the cabinet. I have enough stuff to run longer cycles, I was not planning on doing a short 2-week cycle, someone else was saying that (Mak1990).

Just curious what Jebrook thought about M-Sten and M1T daily dosing, relative to his advice on DMZ assuming still 4 week PH cycle length.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Naw I'm good, used DMZ before one of my favorites, no panick attacks... if anything I feel more confident on it.

Right now, I just started a Test E + EQ warmup 300mg:300mg per week. Once I finish my EQ, I'll cut over to Test E + DMZ run, I have plenty of DMZ and have plenty of 1-alpha (M1AD) @ 25mg and 2x bottles of M1T @ 20mg coming from UK, and also if bored: Superdrol bottles, Epistane, etc. And for Sarms, LGD-4033, RAD-140, also in the cabinet. I have enough stuff to run longer cycles, I was not planning on doing a short 2-week cycle, someone else was saying that (Mak1990).

Just curious what Jebrook thought about M-Sten and M1T daily dosing, relative to his advice on DMZ assuming still 4 week PH cycle length.

Didn’t you just finish an injectable cycle not long ago?

 

[Jebrook]

Hey Jebrook, quick question. What about 1-Alpha (M1AD I think from PRO). I have that in 25mg caps, and also a couple bottles of 20mg caps of M1T coming from Advanced Pharma in UK.

After the Test E and DMZ start up, thinking of adding some M1T or M1AD. I've already ran Blackstone Labs Alpha 1 Max a couple times, so I know how M1AD feels, pretty potent. I assume 20mg M1T is not overkill? I see some forums suggesting 10mg ramp to 20mg, etc? If I'm blasting mad TUDCA and Cycle Support, with enough H20 should be OK?

20 mg of M1T is fine. I would run the M1T over the precursor M1A. Def need top notch cycle support.

 

[PoSiTiVeFLoW]

Didn’t you just finish an injectable cycle not long ago?

About 2-3 months ago I went off-cycle and out of the gym entirely, just was cruising on Test and EQ at the time.

New dad, expecting a 2nd with work stress so thats why the sudden pause... But I am determined to get back here even if I have to lift at home, long story also had a full seizure 1st week of July so the PT and lifting to regain range of motion is important... PM me if you're curious.

 

[PoSiTiVeFLoW]

20 mg of M1T is fine. I would run the M1T over the precursor M1A. Def need top notch cycle support.

Thanks, good deal.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

About 2-3 months ago I went off-cycle and out of the gym entirely, just was cruising on Test and EQ at the time.

New dad, expecting a 2nd with work stress so thats why the sudden pause... But I am determined to get back here even if I have to lift at home, long story also had a full seizure 1st week of July so the PT and lifting to regain range of motion is important... PM me if you're curious.

Ahhh gotcha man

 

[jtbull]

I know the thread is a bit old, but relevent for what i plan to do. I am on TRT and will be starting my first test only cycle in about a month. It will be my trt 200mg cypionate every 10 days ( i know that sucks, but stay with me) and sustonan 300 every 10 days. So i will be using a shot of sust on day 5 then cypionate on day 10. My second cycle so far will be the same test protocal, but with 500mg of eq per week. I will probably pin once as i have been told i can. I was wondering about yk11, s23 or even lgd as a kickstarter or would DMZ, MSTEN, DBOL and so be the way to go? I have not seen any sarms mentioned here. I also thought of hdrol, which i have been told is like turnibol

 

[AnabolicGuru]

I know the thread is a bit old, but relevent for what i plan to do. I am on TRT and will be starting my first test only cycle in about a month. It will be my trt 200mg cypionate every 10 days ( i know that sucks, but stay with me) and sustonan 300 every 10 days. So i will be using a shot of sust on day 5 then cypionate on day 10. My second cycle so far will be the same test protocal, but with 500mg of eq per week. I will probably pin once as i have been told i can. I was wondering about yk11, s23 or even lgd as a kickstarter or would DMZ, MSTEN, DBOL and so be the way to go? I have not seen any sarms mentioned here. I also thought of hdrol, which i have been told is like turnibol

Why pin every 10 days? I’d go for at least once per week, preferably twice a week. Not too familiar with sarms, but dmz, msten, tbol, etc would all be wonderful kickstarters.

 

[jtbull]

Why pin every 10 days? I’d go for at least once per week, preferably twice a week. Not too familiar with sarms, but dmz, msten, tbol, etc would all be wonderful kickstarters.

10 days is how the doc had it done. I will do 10 days on my cruises ( i am on trt) i will be over 10 days doing 300mg sust and 200mg cypionate test ( day one and then day 5 of every 10 days.......which of those gives dry gains with good strength gains.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

10 days is how the doc had it done. I will do 10 days on my cruises ( i am on trt) i will be over 10 days doing 300mg sust and 200mg cypionate test ( day one and then day 5 of every 10 days.......which of those gives dry gains with good strength gains.

Kinda a bit confused with the test layout still lol. Dmz msten and tbol all are great for dry gains and good strength.

 

[BarryScott]

Kinda a bit confused with the test layout still lol.

He's pinning every 5 days, alternating between his 200mg TRT dose and the 300mg sust.

 

[jtbull]

Kinda a bit confused with the test layout still lol. Dmz msten and tbol all are great for dry gains and good strength.

OK i am on Testosterone replacement from a doctor. The way they prescribed it was 200mg every 10 days. I responsed good as i went from total t with clomid ( i did that for years since we did not want to start test in the children ages, but sadly we never had any) of like 510 ( 3 50mg tabs a week) to 930 with the test every 10 days. I was going to go to 100mg every 5 days or 150 every 7 days, but the wife is not real knowlegable so i figure keeping it at 10 days those shots ( she gives me) i can give my self the equipoise and sustonon. I am TRYING to pin as little as possible. I am wondering about mixing compounds in the same syringe when i can.

 

[Old Witch]

I’d say try something like 60mg dmz for the two weeks and then drop it down to 45 when the test kicks in and ride it out for six weeks.

 

[jtbull]

I’d say try something like 60mg dmz for the two weeks and then drop it down to 45 when the test kicks in and ride it out for six weeks.

I think i will try that. DMZ seems more cost effective with less sides than dbol for me.