Is there much of a point of running test solo during a cut? Just curious. I’d stack it with Var myself but hypothetically would there be much of a benefit?
Yeah there’s definitely better options than solo test. To prevent muscle loss I’d just use a sarm though. I feel like Test could aid in fat loss but not to a great extent.Maybe to help prevent muscle loss, but if I wanted a steroid for cutting, I’d go for something with actual hardening effects such as winny, mast, tren, etc
All of that goes away when you go off cycle. You could cut on dbol or any other androgen for that matter.Maybe to help prevent muscle loss, but if I wanted a steroid for cutting, I’d go for something with actual hardening effects such as winny, mast, tren, etc
Have you used alcar before? I'm interested...Anavar has been clinically proven to burn stomach fat, in particular, more than test.
250mg/week of test + 50mg of var + clenbuterol would be a potent, mild combo. If youo want you could also add ALCAR, it is very good sh!t too for burning fat with no side effects.
I’m glad you said that. I’m cutting on 22mg of lgd even though people recommend bulking with this sarm.All of that goes away when you go off cycle. You could cut on dbol or any other androgen for that matter.
Yes, it worked great for me. Also I turned a co worker onto it, who was on a strict diet/ workout regimine and he went from losing 1lb peer week to 2.5lbs per week! I think it has other benefits too other than fat burning.Have you used alcar before? I'm interested...
Let me know how that goes, I was thinking of doing the same thing for curiosity sake.I’m glad you said that. I’m cutting on 22mg of lgd even though people recommend bulking with this sarm.
It depends on how much self control you have, because LGD makes most people super hungry. I tried it for 4 weeks during a cut and found myself constantly eating. Dropped it and stayed on S23 and found S23 to be pretty damn good during a cut.Let me know how that goes, I was thinking of doing the same thing for curiosity sake.
That's only bc of the watter retention that it causes. Watter goes away when you go off cycle. This are just bodybuilding rules, ie. you wont use a "bulker" for a show prep in the last weeks bc it wont make you look hard and grainy. But for us that dont compete this doesn't make much sense as all the hardness from winny or all the veins from var will go away when you go off cycle - which you willonce you are finishd with your cut.I’m glad you said that. I’m cutting on 22mg of lgd even though people recommend bulking with this sarm.
Wow, I have to check this stuff out lol.It depends on how much self control you have, because LGD makes most people super hungry. I tried it for 4 weeks during a cut and found myself constantly eating. Dropped it and stayed on S23 and found S23 to be pretty damn good during a cut.
How do you not include Var in there? Var makes me extremely hard. No homoMaybe to help prevent muscle loss, but if I wanted a steroid for cutting, I’d go for something with actual hardening effects such as winny, mast, tren, etc
Var would fit into the “etc” part hahah.How do you not include Var in there? Var makes me extremely hard. No homo
Well not really.. people use SD and Drol just to get that pump in the muscles before a show but yeah for the average beachboy you'd be good with some winny. You can look grainy with anything if you mix compounds.That's only bc of the watter retention that it causes. Watter goes away when you go off cycle. This are just bodybuilding rules, ie. you wont use a "bulker" for a show prep in the last weeks bc it wont make you look hard and grainy. But for us that dont compete this doesn't make much sense as all the hardness from winny or all the veins from var will go away when you go off cycle - which you willonce you are finishd with your cut.
Anabolics are nutrient partitiioners. All of them. Plus they are anticatabolic. But as Ricky said, if it makes you hungry it probably isn't a good cutter Like for me, using mk677 in a cut just makes me suffer to much.
Imo var is waste if your diet is on point test is fine. If ur dead set on a stack tren, or if u get low enough in bf mast is great but only if ur low in bf
I can try and find the study, but they did an experiment pitting anavar vs testosterone to see if either promoted abdominal fat loss. The test group did not lose any significant abdominal fat however the anavar group lost a substantial amount. Var directly targets abdominal fat, I tell ya.Imo var is waste if your diet is on point test is fine. If ur dead set on a stack tren, or if u get low enough in bf mast is great but only if ur low in bf
Anavar increases metabolism and prevents muscle waste while in deficit. It doesn't directly target fatcells. It basically makes it easier to get lean compared to testosterone but you'd also have to look at effective dose for this.Here we go
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8574271
Oral anabolic steroid treatment, but not parenteral androgen treatment, decreases abdominal fat in obese, older men.
Lovejoy JC1, Bray GA, Greeson CS, Klemperer M, Morris J, Partington C, Tulley R.
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Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
To compare the effects of testosterone enanthate (TE), anabolic steroid (anavar) (AS) or placebo (PL) on regional fat distribution and health risk factors in obese middle-aged men undergoing weight loss by dietary means.
DESIGN:
Randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial, carried out for 9 months with primary assessments at 3 month intervals. Due to adverse blood lipid changes, the AS group was switched from oral oxandrolone (ASOX) to parenteral nandrolone decaoate (ASND) after the 3 month assessment point.
SUBJECTS:
Thirty healthy, obese men, aged 40-60 years, with serum testosterone (T) levels in the low-normal range (2-5 ng/mL).
MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES:
Abdominal fat distribution and thigh muscle volume by CT scan, body composition by dual energy X-ray absorptiometry (DEXA), insulin sensitivity by the Minimal Model method, blood lipids, blood chemistry, blood pressure, thyroid hormones and urological parameters.
RESULTS:
After 3 months, there was a significantly greater decrease in subcutaneous (SQ) abdominal fat in the ASOX group compared to the TE and PL groups although body weight changes did not differ by treatment group. There was also a tendency for the ASOX group to exhibit greater losses in visceral fat, and the absolute level of visceral fat in this group was significantly lower at 3 months than in the TE and PL groups. There were significant main effects of treatment at 3 months on serum T and free T (increased in the TE group and decreased in the ASOX group) and on thyroid hormone parameters (T4 and T3 resin uptake significantly decreased in the ASOX group compared with the other two groups). There was a significant decrease in HDL-C, and increase in LDL-C in the ASOX group, which led to their being switched to the parenteral nandrolone decanoate (ASND) after 3 months. ASND had opposite effects on visceral fat from ASOX, producing a significant increase from 3 to 9 months while continuing to decrease SQ abdominal fat. ASND treatment also decreased thigh muscle area, while ASOX treatment increased high muscle. ASND reversed the effects of ASOX on lipoproteins and thyroid hormones. The previously reported effect of T to decrease visceral fat was not observed, in fact, visceral fat in the TE group increased slightly from 3 to 9 months, although SQ fat continued to decrease. Neither TE nor AS treatment resulted in any change in urologic parameters.
CONCLUSIONS:
Oral oxandrolone decreased SQ abdominal fat more than TE or weight loss alone and also tended to produce favorable changes in visceral fat. TE and ASND injections given every 2 weeks had similar effects to weight loss alone on regional body fat. Most of the beneficial effects observed on metabolic and cardiovascular risk factors were due to weight loss per se. These results suggest that SQ and visceral abdominal fat can be independently modulated by androgens and that at least some anabolic steroids are capable of influencing abdominal fat.
I agree, and can concur. Var can transform your midsection if your diet and cardio is on point. No other AAS or DS have ever cut me up like Var. You discover new cuts week 3-8.I can try and find the study, but they did an experiment pitting anavar vs testosterone to see if either promoted abdominal fat loss. The test group did not lose any significant abdominal fat however the anavar group lost a substantial amount. Var directly targets abdominal fat, I tell ya.