Tbol help

[Jsgym]

Finally got my tbol pills to start my cycle, is it essential to take anything along side it? Obviously I have my PCT planned for after

 

[RickyBlobby]

Not essential. Tbol is pretty easy on the body.

 

[Jsgym]

Okay that's a plus, anything you recommend just to keep everything running okay?

 

[RickyBlobby]

CEL cycle assist should improve your overall health while on cycle. That's all I would run. Some will recommend a liver supplement but Tbol is mild on the liver IMO and unless you are running it for several months I think your liver will be fine.

 

[Jsgym]

CEL cycle assist should improve your overall health while on cycle. That's all I would run. Some will recommend a liver supplement but Tbol is mild on the liver IMO and unless you are running it for several months I think your liver will be fine.

Okay cheers mate, know your stuff. Any tips while I'm cycling it?

 

[RickyBlobby]

Eat and train like crazy and drink a lot of water

 

[Jsgym]

Eat and train like crazy and drink a lot of water

Of course mate! Do you recommend taking a liver protector?

 

[Chados]

Of course mate! Do you recommend taking a liver protector?

Not really, if you have an healthy liver you can probably run tbol for years but it would be quite a waste of money running it that long. I would suggest test though but I'm sure you're not planning on that.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

I ran tbol as a kickstart a few weeks ago and felt fine without cycle support. I’ve always ran cycle supports in the past, but decided to experiment and see how I felt without one and on a mild compound. You should be fine. You can always add one though if you want the assurance that you’ll be safe.

 

[Davy25]

No test base you’re running an oral only cycle? You’ll prolly feel like hell towards the end of the cycle but if your only running 4-6 weeks you might feel alright.

 

[christ83189]

No test base you’re running an oral only cycle? You’ll prolly feel like hell towards the end of the cycle but if your only running 4-6 weeks you might feel alright.

I could be wrong cause ive never ran it but isnt tbol one of them "feel good" compounds? That may make a test base unnecessary but i feel like test will always make a cycle better. Ill never run a cycle without it after running em with it. I mean im on trt so ill always have at least my trt dose.

 

[Davy25]

I could be wrong cause ive never ran it but isnt tbol one of them "feel good" compounds? That may make a test base unnecessary but i feel like test will always make a cycle better. Ill never run a cycle without it after running em with it. I mean im on trt so ill always have at least my trt dose.

Ive been told with anavar you can get away fine with dermacrine as opposed to actual test and id assume tbol would be the same but i remember drinking upwards of 6 cups of coffee a day trying to combat lethargy, i think SOMETHING would be advisable.

 

[christ83189]

Ive been told with anavar you can get away fine with dermacrine as opposed to actual test and id assume tbol would be the same but i remember drinking upwards of 6 cups of coffee a day trying to combat lethargy, i think SOMETHING would be advisable.

To combat lethargy from tbol?

 

[Jsgym]

My first cycle, after a lot of research decided to go with oral only before I add test in on my next cycle

 

[RickyBlobby]

Dbol can be ran without a test base because it converts to estrogen and strong androgen. Tbol doesn't aromatize so when your natural T levels drop so will you estrogen, to the point you begin feeling ****ty. If you don't want to run test with it you can run a SERM like torem alongside and that should keep your testosterone production going for the most part.

 

[heckler7]

My first cycle, after a lot of research decided to go with oral only before I add test in on my next cycle

if you plan on running test I would save the tbol for the test cycle, its a very mild drug, run something else or start prepping for a test cycle now.
note: this is just my opinion to help you consider options, not here to debate the anobolic ratings and what carbon molecules make up what

 

[AnabolicGuru]

if you plan on running test I would save the tbol for the test cycle, its a very mild drug, run something else or start prepping for a test cycle now.
note: this is just my opinion to help you consider options, not here to debate the anobolic ratings and what carbon molecules make up what

I agree that it would be better with test, but it’s not that mild imo. Sure, it’s not dbol or anadrol, but it’s still up there with halodrol, epistane, etc.

 

[heckler7]

I agree that it would be better with test, but it’s not that mild imo. Sure, it’s not dbol or anadrol, but it’s still up there with halodrol, epistane, etc.

I hear ya man and agree, just my opinion if I was gonna go oral only it would be trest, I would save the tbol for test run it would be a good add

 

[thefrenchmen]

Just go for some halo. Doesn’t it convert to turinabol?

 

[thefrenchmen]

Just go for some halo. Doesn’t it convert to turinabol?

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Just go for some halo. Doesn’t it convert to turinabol?

It’s rumored to have a very slight amount of conversion to turinabol, but it’s effects are mainly just from the compound itself. I haven’t tried halodrol, but tbol had the least amount of side effects I’ve experienced from an oral.

 

[Chados]

I could be wrong cause ive never ran it but isnt tbol one of them "feel good" compounds? That may make a test base unnecessary but i feel like test will always make a cycle better. Ill never run a cycle without it after running em with it. I mean im on trt so ill always have at least my trt dose.

If it wasn't for your many comments I would think you were trying to find a leaphole not to inject haha. Didn't feel much on tbol, felt like everyday really. Dbol I think has that feel good feeling.

 

[Chados]

Just go for some halo. Doesn’t it convert to turinabol?

Yeah not the whole pill, not sure about the percentage but a part of it is it's own thing.

 

[mixedup]

People say took is mild but it's still a methylated and your liver and lipids will take a hit. Id consider at least a low dose of Tudcal

 

[mikeymike85]

Why wouldn't you run cycle support for 30$ is the question. I've abused my body as bad as the next guy but jeez I take a 30$ precaution when running a "mild" oral for 8 weeks

 

[Transhuman]

Why wouldn't you run cycle support for 30$ is the question. I've abused my body as bad as the next guy but jeez I take a 30$ precaution when running a "mild" oral for 8 weeks

Milk thistle can be found for cheap on Amazon. Better than nothing to protect the liver.

 

[mikeymike85]

Milk thistle can be found for cheap on Amazon. Better than nothing to protect the liver.

I run 3 cycles a year so I opt for something a little higher on the totem pole

 

[Chados]

I run 3 cycles a year so I opt for something a little higher on the totem pole

Lol

 

[christ83189]

If it wasn't for your many comments I would think you were trying to find a leaphole not to inject haha. Didn't feel much on tbol, felt like everyday really. Dbol I think has that feel good feeling.

Lol i was just trying to understand why he was going for tbol with no test

 

[Davy25]

I just started tbol and test last week and absolutely am using cycle support. I like arimicare because it has tudca and generally speaking if you buy tudca alone your going to be spending $20 on one ingredient.

 

[Chados]

I have always used liver support but to be honest if I ran a tbol only cycle and didn't take an insane amount I'm not sure id even bother paying 30 euros/dollars extra. They put patients on 150mg anadrol for months without noticing much difference if any in liver values. If you have the money and wanna pay for it then for sure get it. My concern with a mild oral will be cholesterol and blood pressure not my liver.

This 4-6 weeks max is some bro science from phs entering the market. They're basically creating a legal steroid that most likely will be banned and that they need to put a dosage and length on to not have you sue them out of business.

There are some orals that should be used with concern, M1T comes to mind.

 

[christ83189]

I have always used liver support but to be honest if I ran a tbol only cycle and didn't take an insane amount I'm not sure id even bother paying 30 euros/dollars extra. They put patients on 150mg anadrol for months without noticing much difference if any in liver values. If you have the money and wanna pay for it then for sure get it. My concern with a mild oral will be cholesterol and blood pressure not my liver.

This 4-6 weeks max is some bro science from phs entering the market. They're basically creating a legal steroid that most likely will be banned and that they need to put a dosage and length on to not have you sue them out of business.

There are some orals that should be used with concern, M1T comes to mind.

And Superdrol. Man from what ive heard about those 2 im pretty sure i wont try them. Although the amount of fast results you get from superdrol is tempting

 

[Chados]

And Superdrol. Man from what ive heard about those 2 im pretty sure i wont try them. Although the amount of fast results you get from superdrol is tempting

Superdrol Is pretty bad but it's depended on dosage. M1T I believe is way worse but don't quote me on this

 

[Transhuman]

I run 3 cycles a year so I opt for something a little higher on the totem pole

As do I. My comment was directed at the OP and only adding to yours that liver support supplements can be bought for cheap. No reason not to have something for an oral imho.

 

[Nac]

What kind of tbol doses you guys typically use? Ive been reading around 50mg per day, but sh1t that makes this stuff quite expensive for a 6 week run (not var expensive, but def not dbol cheap either).
Chados

 

[Transhuman]

What kind of tbol doses you guys typically use? Ive been reading around 50mg per day, but sh1t that makes this stuff quite expensive for a 6 week run (not var expensive, but def not dbol cheap either).

I usually stick with 40mg but a low dose of 30mg for a longer duration also works. I haven't tried 20mg because that's what I tend to go with for Dbol.

I prefer lower oral dosages so it depends on the individual.

 

[Chados]

What kind of tbol doses you guys typically use? Ive been reading around 50mg per day, but sh1t that makes this stuff quite expensive for a 6 week run (not var expensive, but def not dbol cheap either).
Chados

I dosed it at 60 but I don't see it being worth the price especially with halodrol being about as strong. And yeah the price is just too much, people in the us get it so much cheaper than me. I'd also argue that epistane doesnt fall far behind and these two produce the same type of gains.

 

[Nac]

Thanks men.

I usually stick with 40mg but a low dose of 30mg for a longer duration also works. I haven't tried 20mg because that's what I tend to go with for Dbol.

I prefer lower oral dosages so it depends on the individual.

Aye true.

I dosed it at 60 but I don't see it being worth the price especially with halodrol being about as strong. And yeah the price is just too much, people in the us get it so much cheaper than me. I'd also argue that epistane doesnt fall far behind and these two produce the same type of gains.

Yeah? Damn, I thought epi was crap. Ill stick with var and winny then.

 

[Chados]

Thanks men.



Aye true.



Yeah? Damn, I thought epi was crap. Ill stick with var and winny then.

Well it is stronger but also take in to account that tbol dosage is normally recommended in the 50-60mg range if I'm not mistaken.

You can run superdrol at 10mg and not have much if any androgenic sides. It's definitely stronger than var and it should be stronger than winstrol but I definitely take winny. Epistane is actually stronger than var just normally dosed lower and arguably (don't quote me ) var could be better in a deficit to maintain gains

 

[Nac]

Well it is stronger but also take in to account that tbol dosage is normally recommended in the 50-60mg range if I'm not mistaken.

You can run superdrol at 10mg and not have much if any androgenic sides. It's definitely stronger than var and it should be stronger than winstrol but I definitely take winny. Epistane is actually stronger than var just normally dosed lower and arguably (don't quote me ) var could be better in a deficit to maintain gains

Sdrol scares the fuk outta me tbh, I typically try to stay away from orals cos the sides are just sh1tty.

Epi did jack for me, whereas var recomps me like nothing else (for me it rivals tren in this respect, and is only surpassed by trest IM, as a recomper).

 

[Chados]

Sdrol scares the fuk outta me tbh, I typically try to stay away from orals cos the sides are just sh1tty.

Epi did jack for me, whereas var recomps me like nothing else (for me it rivals tren in this respect, and is only surpassed by trest IM, as a recomper).

It's very dose dependent how you get results and for how long you run it. I mean running epi at 30 mg vs car at 50 might not be a fair comparison. Superdrol isn't bad at low dosage and actually not more androgenic than var but has a much higher muscle building potency. There are women running sdrol at 2-5 mg.

Nanodrol is just as strong as sdrol but with far lesser sides reported. Kinda gives me a more tren/winstrol type look while sd feels like a powerful tbol or an anadrol mixed with masteron

 

[Nac]

It's very dose dependent how you get results and for how long you run it. I mean running epi at 30 mg vs car at 50 might not be a fair comparison. Superdrol isn't bad at low dosage and actually not more androgenic than var but has a much higher muscle building potency. There are women running sdrol at 2-5 mg.

Nanodrol is just as strong as sdrol but with far lesser sides reported. Kinda gives me a more tren/winstrol type look while sd feels like a powerful tbol or an anadrol mixed with masteron

Yeah you and anabolicguru had me tempted on the nanodrol but price and Im overseas. Now youve got me thinking of at least trying sdrol lol

 

[Chados]

Yeah you and anabolicguru had me tempted on the nanodrol but price and Im overseas. Now youve got me thinking of at least trying sdrol lol

Haha hey I don't wanna be responsible. didn't feel any negative sides on sdrol. I think you'd see a lot just from 2-3 weeks.

I am going to cease with the in depth comparisons, as I believe I have adequately made my point, but if I would have continued, it would’ve been revealed that Pheraplex is similar to Dianabol in potency… that Epistane gives results very similar to Anavar (yet builds more muscle per mg)… that Halo Extreme gives nearly identical effects to Turinabol on a mg to mg basis…etc. So, the next time you read on the forums that OTC designers aren’t “real” steroids…or that ”real AAS work better”, you will have enough information in order to dissect and destroy such ignorant arguments.

(Copied from Mike Arnold.)

I actually didn't know epistane was stronger than var but by my own testing i came to the conclusion that epistane halodrol tbol and var are very similar in terms of how you look after using them. Apparently halodrol even converts to tbol to some degree so might be worth checking out if you haven't.

 

[Nac]

Yeah sorry for derail.
Chados clear PM

 

[Chados]

Yeah sorry for derail.
Chados clear PM

Cleared

 

[Chados]

Yeah sorry for derail.
Chados clear PM

Did you send or did I accidentally delete it?

 

[Nac]

Nah its all good bro

 

[AnabolicGuru]

What kind of tbol doses you guys typically use? Ive been reading around 50mg per day, but sh1t that makes this stuff quite expensive for a 6 week run (not var expensive, but def not dbol cheap either).
Chados

I ran it at 40mg and had good results. No side effects at all. If I did run it again, I’d probably go to 60mg personally though. My traps and delts filled out nicely while on it.

 

[mikeymike85]

Sdrol scares the fuk outta me tbh, I typically try to stay away from orals cos the sides are just sh1tty.

Epi did jack for me, whereas var recomps me like nothing else (for me it rivals tren in this respect, and is only surpassed by trest IM, as a recomper).

Yes I agree, Var transforms your body if your diet and workouts are on point. Stomach leans out more than any Compound I've ever ran. What are thoughts on running Var with Hdrol? Seems like it should be a good run..no?

 

[Smont]

It's very dose dependent how you get results and for how long you run it. I mean running epi at 30 mg vs car at 50 might not be a fair comparison. Superdrol isn't bad at low dosage and actually not more androgenic than var but has a much higher muscle building potency. There are women running sdrol at 2-5 mg.

Nanodrol is just as strong as sdrol but with far lesser sides reported. Kinda gives me a more tren/winstrol type look while sd feels like a powerful tbol or an anadrol mixed with masteron

Isint nanodrol msten? If so superdrol is far stronger. To the point is say 10mg sd=30mg msten