Pct help

[Nora9259]

Hey everyone,

I’m brand new here I’m starting my first cycle on Monday (hopefully). I’m doing a cycle of prohormones to get my feet wet. Any feedback is appreciated.

6 week cycle:
OL sup3r-1
330/330/330/330/330/330
OL sup3r-4
220/220/220/220/220/220

OCT:
OL Ar1macare
8/8/8/8/8/8
CEL cycle assist
6/6/6/6/6/6

PCT:
Clomid 50/50/25/25
And/or (need advice)
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Kings Blood

Should I have an AI on hand or is that going overboard?

For sources, has anyone had recent success w adc? A lot of good reviews but haven’t seen many recently. Ordered my clomid from them. Thanks for any feedback you can give me

 

[RickyBlobby]

I would recommend starting clomid @ 25mg/ day a minimum of 2 weeks before your cycle ends so you don't have lag time between the compounds leaving your system and your natural test production starting back up.

 

[Nora9259]

Okay so you’re saying clomid for a total of 6 weeks? 25/25/50/50/25/25? First 2 25s during last two weeks of cycle. Or you’re saying 25/25/12.5/12.5? Thanks

 

[DennisC1986]

I would extend your Andros to 8 weeks. Also cycle assist and arimacare seems like overkill to me, I would pick one or the other. I prefer arimacare. No disrespect to rickyblobby, there's been a lot of talk about clomid on cycle but since this is your first cycle and it's a relatively mild one I would just wait until pct to run your clomid. That's a proven recipe for success. The other way might be good too but for my first cycle I'd wanna stick with what's tried and true

 

[Nora9259]

Thanks Dennis,

I would also like to extend it to 8 weeks but I’m traveling in 10 weeks so I want to finish up the pct right before I go away so I don’t need to travel with anything. Next cycle will definitely be the full 8 weeks. As for the AI, do you think it’s necessary on this type of cycle?

 

[RickyBlobby]

Okay so you’re saying clomid for a total of 6 weeks? 25/25/50/50/25/25? First 2 25s during last two weeks of cycle. Or you’re saying 25/25/12.5/12.5? Thanks

First, lol

 

[Nora9259]

Sweet thanks. I’m definitely excited to start but also have some nerves about it. It’s mild but trying something new is always like that. Starting Monday

 

[RickyBlobby]

Understandable, and good luck. I think your decision to utilize a SERM earlier in your cycle was a wise one.

 

[Whisky]

I would extend your Andros to 8 weeks. Also cycle assist and arimacare seems like overkill to me, I would pick one or the other. I prefer arimacare. No disrespect to rickyblobby, there's been a lot of talk about clomid on cycle but since this is your first cycle and it's a relatively mild one I would just wait until pct to run your clomid. That's a proven recipe for success. The other way might be good too but for my first cycle I'd wanna stick with what's tried and true

Yep, personally I agree with this OP. I’ve run the andros and found it a nice cycle.

You’ve obviously spent a bit of time researching which is nice to see. You 4-andro dose is a touch low so be prepared to have to push through some days as that lethargy from the 1-andro can bite.

Cycle Assist or ar1macare are both solid - save money though, you only need one of them.

Likewise your serm, just either one or the other is fine.

Personally I just started it (clomid) the day after my last andro dose and ran 50/25/25/12.5 - recovered great (got bloods to confirm) and keep nearly all gains.

Have fun bro

 

[Nora9259]

Thanks whisky I appreciate all the help I can get. What do you recommend for the 4–andro?

 

[Whisky]

Thanks whisky I appreciate all the help I can get. What do you recommend for the 4–andro?

No problems, 330 would be standard. I ran 340/340 (was an all in one and the closest I could get to 330) and had minimal sides. Felt some lethargy but nothing too crazy.

I used epiandro as well, you’ll see that commonly used in this stack. Worth looking into but not essential.

 

[DennisC1986]

As far as the ai, you may need it, you may not. I would err on the safe side and get some exemestane or arimidex (you can get them from the place that someone who isn't me told you about ). 4 andro can aromatize. Would rather have it and not need it than the other way around.

 

[Nora9259]

Awesome. As for the epiandro mentioned above, I need to do my research on it but would I need to modify my OCT and PCT if it was added or would I simply just add it? Would you recommend it even for the first cycle/benefits of adding it?

 

[Whisky]

Awesome. As for the epiandro mentioned above, I need to do my research on it but would I need to modify my OCT and PCT if it was added or would I simply just add it? Would you recommend it even for the first cycle/benefits of adding it?

No need to change otc or pct, just add it at 700+ per day (mostly pwo). Very lean strength gains and provides a boost to energy and libido.

 

[Nora9259]

700+mg Per day? Any product/brand you recommend? I think I’m going to add it if I can get it in time

 

[Nora9259]

I bought sup3r-Epi and plan on dosing it 750mg per day. With each of the supps I should take them morning afternoon and night correct?

 

[DennisC1986]

I'd spread the 1 and 4 out 3x per day but I'd take all the epi an hour before the gym

 

[Nora9259]

Awesome thanks for all the help fellas. Monday I dive in, wish me luck.

 

[Whisky]

I'd spread the 1 and 4 out 3x per day but I'd take all the epi an hour before the gym

Yeah this ^^^