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So, what do you guys think of this blend of this 4 powerful ph's, dossage, experience with this compounds, etc...? I would use it as kickstart (3 caps per day) to my offseason cycle with 600mg of sustanon 300. This contains Epistane, DMZ, Msten, and something called DECA
 
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So, what do you guys think of this blend of this 4 powerful ph's, dossage, experience with this compounds, etc...? I would use it as kickstart (3 caps per day) to my offseason cycle with 600mg of sustanon 300. This contains Epistane, DMZ, Msten, and something called DECA
I think your going to make huge gains!

Is it 3 caps a day?

Remember liver support, heart...

You know what try to find a supplement that is meant to take "on cycle"

A support supp, usually says "heart, kidneys, liver" etc.
 
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I believe the last compound is Max-lmg just different chemical makeup
 
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Thanks for your reply, yeah, I got all of that things. Liv 55, fish oil, k2 vitamin, etc...
 
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Jesus, that’s quite the concoction.....
 
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What do you mean? (Sorry, english is not my nativ language)
 
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What do you mean? (Sorry, english is not my nativ language)
It's going to be a very powerful supplement.

If you want, you can probably take 2 pills a day to make it last longer.

It says 90 pills. So the directions probably say 3 a day yes?
 
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Direction says 2-3 caps per day... I was thinking to tak 2 caps for first 7 days, and later bump it up to 3 caps.
 
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Hope it's gonna help me make some good, lean gains...
 
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So, what do you guys think of this blend of this 4 powerful ph's, dossage, experience with this compounds, etc...? I would use it as kickstart (3 caps per day) to my offseason cycle with 600mg of sustanon 300. This contains Epistane, DMZ, Msten, and something called DECA
I’m personally not a fan of these stacked methyl ph’s but I’ve seen way worse blends. The Epistane is on the low side but that won’t matter as it’s stacked with DMZ and Msten at high doses. This has 3 DHT derived compounds, so it will be very dry and probably rough on the joints. Not to mention serious liver toxicity. I would recommend KingsGuard plus 750 mg of additional TUDCA minimum while on this. The DECA is something I’m unfamiliar with. I don’t believe it is methylated. I’ve seen anecdotal reports of it being similar to Max LMG. This will certainly kickstart your cycle with quick mass and strength gains.
 
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Damn! So leaning more towards a 19nor compound? Deca?
This is old info and newer info may be around but I haven’t searched for it. I just remember this info from old research:

18-methylestr-4-en-3-one-17b-ol (DECA)
Recommended Dosage- 40-80mgs a day
Average Cycle Length- 4-6 weeks
Advanced Cycle Length- 6-8 weeks
Methylated-No its Ethylated
Toxicity Level- Low
Estrogen Conversion-No
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio: N/A



This compound is very new and there is no exact write up to its exact properties of action. It has been said to be very similar to 13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)dien-17-one known as MAX-LMG. There is very contradicting info on this compound from it being a derivative of methylnortest down to it being a ethylated nor testosterone based chemical. It is also said that MAX-LMG is thePro-Hormone to this potent powerhouse. Meaning this would and could possibly be considered a Designer Steroid.

Its basically norbolethone without the 17a-ethyl meaning this futhers the evidence of it being very similar in action as
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)dien-17-one. When there is more proven documentation on this we will post it.
 
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I’m personally not a fan of these stacked methyl ph’s but I’ve seen way worse blends. The Epistane is on the low side but that won’t matter as it’s stacked with DMZ and Msten at high doses. This has 3 DHT derived compounds, so it will be very dry and probably rough on the joints. Not to mention serious liver toxicity. I would recommend KingsGuard plus 750 mg of additional TUDCA minimum while on this. The DECA is something I’m unfamiliar with. I don’t believe it is methylated. I’ve seen anecdotal reports of it being similar to Max LMG. This will certainly kickstart your cycle with quick mass and strength gains.
Right. Epi @ 8mg a cap?

But then again, if it's stacked with others, it will have a synergistic affect
 
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So, what do you guys think of this blend of this 4 powerful ph's, dossage, experience with this compounds, etc...? I would use it as kickstart (3 caps per day) to my offseason cycle with 600mg of sustanon 300. This contains Epistane, DMZ, Msten, and something called DECA
Shet I forgot TUDCA!!!

Very important when taking orals.

It has to do with your bile.

Helps keep the liver healthy!
 
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This is old info and newer info may be around but I haven’t searched for it. I just remember this info from old research:

18-methylestr-4-en-3-one-17b-ol (DECA)
Recommended Dosage- 40-80mgs a day
Average Cycle Length- 4-6 weeks
Advanced Cycle Length- 6-8 weeks
Methylated-No its Ethylated
Toxicity Level- Low
Estrogen Conversion-No
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio: N/A



This compound is very new and there is no exact write up to its exact properties of action. It has been said to be very similar to 13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)dien-17-one known as MAX-LMG. There is very contradicting info on this compound from it being a derivative of methylnortest down to it being a ethylated nor testosterone based chemical. It is also said that MAX-LMG is thePro-Hormone to this potent powerhouse. Meaning this would and could possibly be considered a Designer Steroid.

Its basically norbolethone without the 17a-ethyl meaning this futhers the evidence of it being very similar in action as
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)dien-17-one. When there is more proven documentation on this we will post it.
Roll the dice...

Probably in the 19nor family...
Progesterone...
 

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This is old info and newer info may be around but I haven’t searched for it. I just remember this info from old research:

18-methylestr-4-en-3-one-17b-ol (DECA)
Recommended Dosage- 40-80mgs a day
Average Cycle Length- 4-6 weeks
Advanced Cycle Length- 6-8 weeks
Methylated-No its Ethylated
Toxicity Level- Low
Estrogen Conversion-No
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio: N/A



This compound is very new and there is no exact write up to its exact properties of action. It has been said to be very similar to 13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)dien-17-one known as MAX-LMG. There is very contradicting info on this compound from it being a derivative of methylnortest down to it being a ethylated nor testosterone based chemical. It is also said that MAX-LMG is thePro-Hormone to this potent powerhouse. Meaning this would and could possibly be considered a Designer Steroid.

Its basically norbolethone without the 17a-ethyl meaning this futhers the evidence of it being very similar in action as
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)dien-17-one. When there is more proven documentation on this we will post it.
Basically no one is sure what the hell it is so they are taking guesses. I'm interested in people's experiences with this DECA compound, but it's very hard to find in a solo product. The majority of products it is in are stacked with several other PHs. I can't bring myself to take something that has such little info out there on it, but I'd be interested to learn more about it.
 
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Basically no one is sure what the hell it is so they are taking guesses. I'm interested in people's experiences with this DECA compound, but it's very hard to find in a solo product. The majority of products it is in are stacked with several other PHs. I can't bring myself to take something that has such little info out there on it, but I'd be interested to learn more about it.
The lab rats will take it...
Including me lol.

Nah my younger self would lol.

Time will tell...
 
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Basically no one is sure what the hell it is so they are taking guesses. I'm interested in people's experiences with this DECA compound, but it's very hard to find in a solo product. The majority of products it is in are stacked with several other PHs. I can't bring myself to take something that has such little info out there on it, but I'd be interested to learn more about it.
Yeah, that is my concern also, I'm scared for my libido
 

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Yeah, that is my concern also, I'm scared for my libido
Never used it, but I would at least be prepared for a significant impact on libido. A product marketed as deca can very well kill your sex drive.
 
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Never used it, but I would at least be prepared for a significant impact on libido. A product marketed as deca can very well kill your sex drive.
Would proviron and sustanon at 600mg per week help to prevent impact on libido?
 
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Has anyone of you had any experience with DMZ, Msten or Epistane and how it was, gains, strenght, recovery?
 
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Has anyone of you had any experience with DMZ, Msten or Epistane and how it was, gains, strenght, recovery?
Epi did nothing for me, dmz didn't do much, never tried methylstenbolone...

Msten was sdrol replacement

I think I'm just not a PH responder because a lot of guys go ape**** over epi, dmz msten etc
 
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Has anyone of you had any experience with DMZ, Msten or Epistane and how it was, gains, strenght, recovery?
I did indulge in sdrol quite a bit. Holy crap!!!

My buddy and I gained 20lbs in 4 weeks.

We ruled the gym lol jk
 
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I did indulge in sdrol quite a bit. Holy crap!!!

My buddy and I gained 20lbs in 4 weeks.

We ruled the gym lol jk
So far I've tried Test enan, cyp, EQ, Dbol, Lgd 4033 and Anadrol... Just hope this wouldn't be a dissapointment
 
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Didn’t read through this thread but is there test in this run???
 
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I think that is just common sense to do it that way, with test
 
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Anyone else who tried one of these compounds?
 
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I’ve tried them all but not all at once, seems a bit over the top imo and would never forgo a cycle of this nature. The MSTEN gave me terrible stomach issues, DMZ is nice, good size and strength, epistane will dry the **** out of you. Not sure on that DECA nomenclature max LMG maybe. Too much organ stress, would not suggest it, but if your body can take it good luck
 
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I’ve tried them all but not all at once, seems a bit over the top imo and would never forgo a cycle of this nature. The MSTEN gave me terrible stomach issues, DMZ is nice, good size and strength, epistane will dry the **** out of you. Not sure on that DECA nomenclature max LMG maybe. Too much organ stress, would not suggest it, but if your body can take it good luck
I think I could handle it well... When I run Anadrol, my organs and body were completly fine, except the horrible aggression and dark mind I got on it, so I think this won't be problematic for 30 days... Thanks for the input guys
 
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Anadrol is one compound and imho no where near the organ killer as all these compounds put together. Curious how you fair though. Report back here with your progress.
 
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So far I've tried Test enan, cyp, EQ, Dbol, Lgd 4033 and Anadrol... Just hope this wouldn't be a dissapointment
I've tried test e, c, d, a, (abcdefg...) Lol.

For Real I've tried test ace. It was in a bottle called "megatest 500"

Sust... Eq, deca, dbol, adrol,sdrol, hdrol, max, Tren e, Tren a, Tren hex. Lol

Primobolan, uhh did I miss any?

Mentabolan, trest, I can't remember the rest!
 
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Dmz blew me up and got crazy strength gains on it. Stacked dmz and msten with no issues with all support supps. If you got all supports and test i think you'll be fine. Everyone responds differently so dont sue me if you have issues... Lol
 
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Dmz blew me up and got crazy strength gains on it. Stacked dmz and msten with no issues with all support supps. If you got all supports and test i think you'll be fine. Everyone responds differently so dont sue me if you have issues... Lol
Everyone does. Absolutely, so it's hard to give advice!
 
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Thank you for your opinion guys, it sure helps
 
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Hey can you tell me more about anadrol? Recommended solo for a 1st cycle or not?
 
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Hey can you tell me more about anadrol? Recommended solo for a 1st cycle or not?
Well, the strength was awesome, but not like on Dianabol. It will fill up your muscles, and carbs are your friends on Androl, full look, but it will shine if you have low bf. Apetite is a bit suppersed on Anadrol, and it ****s with your head a lot! I'm calm guy, get along with everyone, but on Anadrol..
I becom someone else! Aggressive and nasty... Don't take it for a first cycle, and don't take it without test, bc you'll piss most of the gains...
 
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If you are scared to pin, take turinabol 50 mg for 5-6 weeks, it will be nice for first time.
 
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