1st test e cycle help !

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Ok guys Im 38 years old been lifting 8yrs or so. I decided to run a low dose of test a 250mg 1x a week. 3to 4 days after my first pin I felt great good energy libido seemed elevated great mood coulda been placebo but i felt great. Took my second pin 3 days ago. Yesterday i started feeling very anxious and lathargic i could barely finish my workout now i have absolutely no appetite can barely swallow water anxiety is a bitch i couldnt sleep at all last night i feel dehydrated although im drinking adequate amounts of water dry mouth and lips ..Im thinking anabolics not for me ......if i were to stop now what should my pct be i have nolva on hand ...i just want to feel normal again. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
 
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So you’ve only taken 2 shots?
 

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Ok guys Im 38 years old been lifting 8yrs or so. I decided to run a low dose of test a 250mg 1x a week. 3to 4 days after my first pin I felt great good energy libido seemed elevated great mood coulda been placebo but i felt great. Took my second pin 3 days ago. Yesterday i started feeling very anxious and lathargic i could barely finish my workout now i have absolutely no appetite can barely swallow water anxiety is a bitch i couldnt sleep at all last night i feel dehydrated although im drinking adequate amounts of water dry mouth and lips ..Im thinking anabolics not for me ......if i were to stop now what should my pct be i have nolva on hand ...i just want to feel normal again. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
you using an AI?
 
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It's in your head, and 250mg/week is a complete waste of a cycle
 

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No ai i figured with the low dose i wouldnt need it ..researching this forum sounds like i may have low e .....the loss of appetite and anxiety is not normal for me so its not in my head
 
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No ai i figured with the low dose i wouldnt need it ..researching this forum sounds like i may have low e .....the loss of appetite and anxiety is not normal for me so its not in my head
If you aren't using an AI, but are using Test, you definitely shouldn't have low E.
 
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These test cycle under 400 mg are kinda silly.
If your going to run 250 not much is going to happen in 3months.
Your obviously nervous that's why your running g it so low.
Add some 1 andro or s4 or Msten
Or bump that dose up .

2 shots and I'm sure its mental
 

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Your right i am nervous thats why im running a lower dose for my 1st time just to see how i react.... hot sweats anxiety and loss of appetite just came on yesterday so i dont think its all mental im not sure if i should just ride it out or just give up on aas ....should i pct even after 2 shots?
 
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Was it after you injected? Possibly hit a vein which is pretty common. There’s also a thing called test flu, I don’t know if two shots will be enough to bring it on but maybe someone else can chime in on that.
 
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Your right i am nervous thats why im running a lower dose for my 1st time just to see how i react.... hot sweats anxiety and loss of appetite just came on yesterday so i dont think its all mental im not sure if i should just ride it out or just give up on aas ....should i pct even after 2 shots?
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Continue with cycle.
Go to a walk in lab
Get every thing checked
If your in good ranges that should ease your mind.
But I wouldn't waste time on just 250 mg
Unless you want to run it for a year.
You'd see good keepable gains in a year
4-10lb if diet is good?
 

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Thats why I think i'd rather just stop completely and stay natty aas just not for me .....should i pct with nolva or just stop everything and get some daa and tribilus to help me bounce back
 
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Thats why I think i'd rather just stop completely and stay natty aas just not for me .....should i pct with nolva or just stop everything and get some daa and tribilus to help me bounce back
After 2 shots just stop. No need for a pct. I think you elevated your estrogen not lowered it personally. But at the end of the day if its not for you them don't do it. You should feel comfortable about who you are and the decisions you make.
 

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Thanks dude!!! im just gonna stop i love lifting and was feeling great before i started so natty for me from here on out
 
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The most ridiculous thing in the steroid game is saying your running a pointless dose of any givin compound to "See how you react" it's ****in retarded
 
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The most ridiculous thing in the steroid game is saying your running a pointless dose of any givin compound to "See how you react" it's ****in retarded
Tiny amount of the benefits, all of the shut down haha
 

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Sounds like maybe you had elevated e2, only thing that really makes sense, as Renew1 said you definitely wouldn't have low e injecting test without an ai right? Anyway sounds like you may not be ready to cycle dude, no offense meant. Either bump it up to 500mg a week and get an ai or just come off.
 
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No
Continue with cycle.
Go to a walk in lab
Get every thing checked
If your in good ranges that should ease your mind.
But I wouldn't waste time on just 250 mg
Unless you want to run it for a year.
You'd see good keepable gains in a year
4-10lb if diet is good?
I gained 10lbs in 4-5 months from 100mg of Test....250mg is ABSOLUTEY enough to see gains you are WAY over what a normal male is producing. kickstart with an oral and in 10-12 weeks you’ve got respectable and quite keepanle gains.
 
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I gained 10lbs in 4-5 months from 100mg of Test....250mg is ABSOLUTEY enough to see gains you are WAY over what a normal male is producing. kickstart with an oral and in 10-12 weeks you’ve got respectable and quite keepanle gains.
250 is a trt dose
Keeps patients high normal
Commonly prescribed dose
Not sure why you would think it has levels WAY over normal?
 
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250 is a trt dose
Keeps patients high normal
Commonly prescribed dose
Not sure why you would think it has levels WAY over normal?
First cycle- 19 years old Mexican testosterona enanthate. 250 a week for 10 weeks gained 13 pounds kept 8. 250 a week will easily put you over a thousand which is supraphysiological levels. Is 500 better and a standard? Yes but if someone is comfortable running 250 it will definitely give you an idea and get your feet wet and it's still a cycle in my opinion.

For a 40 year old man who's been using juice on and off for years and test levels have declined has already reached their Peak physical state threw years of lifting 250 a week is not going to do the same as someone who runs it for their first cycle.
But it will put you well above thousand and upper range close to 1,500 ng/dl depending on the individual.

You will also see increased glycogen storage, increased nutrient partitioning and strength gains. All these things will also contribute to gains. Of course nowhere near what 500 will do but a safe easy cycle for a first-timer. Honestly I would recommend 350-400 for a first time.
 
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First cycle- 19 years old Mexican testosterona enanthate. 250 a week for 10 weeks gained 13 pounds kept 8. 250 a week will easily put you over a thousand which is supraphysiological levels. Is 500 better and a standard? Yes but if someone is comfortable running 250 it will definitely give you an idea and get your feet wet and it's still a cycle in my opinion.

For a 40 year old man who's been using juice on and off for years and test levels have declined has already reached their Peak physical state threw years of lifting 250 a week is not going to do the same as someone who runs it for their first cycle.
But it will put you well above thousand and upper range close to 1,500 ng/dl depending on the individual.

You will also see increased glycogen storage, increased nutrient partitioning and strength gains. All these things will also contribute to gains. Of course nowhere near what 500 will do but a safe easy cycle for a first-timer. Honestly I would recommend 350-400 for a first time.
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I probably won't go over 300mg anymore so I'd be lying if I said it didn't do anything.
 
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First cycle- 19 years old Mexican testosterona enanthate. 250 a week for 10 weeks gained 13 pounds kept 8. 250 a week will easily put you over a thousand which is supraphysiological levels. Is 500 better and a standard? Yes but if someone is comfortable running 250 it will definitely give you an idea and get your feet wet and it's still a cycle in my opinion.

For a 40 year old man who's been using juice on and off for years and test levels have declined has already reached their Peak physical state threw years of lifting 250 a week is not going to do the same as someone who runs it for their first cycle.
But it will put you well above thousand and upper range close to 1,500 ng/dl depending on the individual.

You will also see increased glycogen storage, increased nutrient partitioning and strength gains. All these things will also contribute to gains. Of course nowhere near what 500 will do but a safe easy cycle for a first-timer. Honestly I would recommend 350-400 for a first time.
IMO I d say run more or even better 250 is perfect to stack with. Just my opinion
My first test cycle I was surprised how underwhelmed just test was even at 750.
I felt good but my lifts actually went down
The next time I added deca and fell in love.
I'm jealous of the guys who do there first test cycle and get the best cycle ever.
But I was already 250ish when I did my first cycle been lifting for many years.

But for the OP stopping was the best idea forsure
 
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250 is a trt dose
Keeps patients high normal
Commonly prescribed dose
Not sure why you would think it has levels WAY over normal?
I just can’t see 250 being a trt dose unless the doctor that prescribed it is fcuking retarded or the body just metabolizes it very fast. Don’t get me wrong, I have seen it before but it is either self prescribed or very rare. 75-150 is a lot more common. I have also seen 200 split twice a week. I don’t think many doctors would be comfortable prescribing 250 a week, I could be wrong though.
 
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I just can’t see 250 being a trt dose unless the doctor that prescribed it is fcuking retarded or the body just metabolizes it very fast. Don’t get me wrong, I have seen it before but it is either self prescribed or very rare. 75-150 is a lot more common. I have also seen 200 split twice a week. I don’t think many doctors would be comfortable prescribing 250 a week, I could be wrong though.
There are members on here that are prescribed 300mg
 
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I just can’t see 250 being a trt dose unless the doctor that prescribed it is fcuking retarded or the body just metabolizes it very fast. Don’t get me wrong, I have seen it before but it is either self prescribed or very rare. 75-150 is a lot more common. I have also seen 200 split twice a week. I don’t think many doctors would be comfortable prescribing 250 a week, I could be wrong though.
Hopefully the dose is split unless it sust right.
No matter the dose splitting is ideal
 
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I gained 10lbs in 4-5 months from 100mg of Test....250mg is ABSOLUTEY enough to see gains you are WAY over what a normal male is producing. kickstart with an oral and in 10-12 weeks you’ve got respectable and quite keepanle gains.
Uhm. 100mg test is wayyy to low. Must be a Joke. I've NEVER heard anyone ever run such a low dose... It would probably not even work. 250 minimum.

I gave my buddy sus 250 and it lowered his test! His body already produces more than that
 
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I just can’t see 250 being a trt dose unless the doctor that prescribed it is fcuking retarded or the body just metabolizes it very fast. Don’t get me wrong, I have seen it before but it is either self prescribed or very rare. 75-150 is a lot more common. I have also seen 200 split twice a week. I don’t think many doctors would be comfortable prescribing 250 a week, I could be wrong though.
But I wouldn't call a Dr. Retarded that prescribes 250 mg
If 250 mg is what keeps you high normal
Estro controllable
Patient energy, libido, sex drive and mood all at a healthy level.
Split that 250 in to 125 twice a week.
I'd say that Dr. Is ok in my book.
 
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But I wouldn't call a Dr. Retarded that prescribes 250 mg
If 250 mg is what keeps you high normal
Estro controllable
Patient energy, libido, sex drive and mood all at a healthy level.
Split that 250 in to 125 twice a week.
I'd say that Dr. Is ok in my book.
150 a week puts me between 800 and 900 test levels. I know from others experiences a lesser dose puts them at that level. I understand people respond differently but 250 just seems very unreasonable and would put a doctors’ practice at risk. The general rule of thumb is to attain the best desired outcome with the least amount of medication, no? I have seen 250 previously like I said but I believe it is rare. I am not saying you are wrong but to be prescribed 300 a week? That is a blast to some. There are others in the male anti aging sub forum I am sure that can chime in. That “ksaj” guy (or something like that) seems to be pretty knowledgeable in this regard.

To the OP sorry if I am hijacking your thread.

If you feel the need to cut your cycle short, then by all means cut your cycle short. You and only you are the one that is familiar with your body. I highly doubt you would need even a mini pct after only two injections but to put your mind at ease I would get bloods done.
 
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But I wouldn't call a Dr. Retarded that prescribes 250 mg
If 250 mg is what keeps you high normal
Estro controllable
Patient energy, libido, sex drive and mood all at a healthy level.
Split that 250 in to 125 twice a week.
I'd say that Dr. Is ok in my book.
Also, if I had a doctor that was prescribing me 250 a week that would be great. I would just save the remainder for a blast later on.
 
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Also, if I had a doctor that was prescribing me 250 a week that would be great. I would just save the remainder for a blast later on.
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250 is the high end but I wouldn't think it would put a Doctors practice at risk.
If the numbers are cool then its cool.
 
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I just can’t see 250 being a trt dose unless the doctor that prescribed it is fcuking retarded or the body just metabolizes it very fast. Don’t get me wrong, I have seen it before but it is either self prescribed or very rare. 75-150 is a lot more common. I have also seen 200 split twice a week. I don’t think many doctors would be comfortable prescribing 250 a week, I could be wrong though.
TRT is 200mg standard from most docs. Usually in the form of cyp. Neighbor does it twice a week. I met a female to male person in a porn shop (lmfao) I heard her mention test injections so naturally I inquired. She/he does it once a week. 200mg cyp.
 
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But I did see a member prescribed 300mg
Yes, and it was called a mini blast. You can search excelmale and other sites that specialize in it and would basically site the same common dosages.
 
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My first cycle was sus 250.

OG Organon LEGIT Sustanon.

Blew the F up. 1 shot. 10 weeks. 20lbs
 
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Yes, and it was called a mini blast. You can search excelmale and other sites that specialize in it and would basically site the same common dosages.
His doctor didn't call it a mini blast did he?
I don't remember exactly but his 300mg dose still didn't have him over normal range right?
 
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Yes, and it was called a mini blast. You can search excelmale and other sites that specialize in it and would basically site the same common dosages.
I'm not on the same page as you calling the 250 mg a week crazy.
I think 1 shot every 2 weeks is stupid
But 250mg is cool for lots of guys
100 mg is cool for lots of guys
 
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I'm not on the same page as you calling the 250 mg a week crazy.
I think 1 shot every 2 weeks is stupid
But 250mg is cool for lots of guys
100 mg is cool for lots of guys
100mg works? I can barely feel 250 a week now
 
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In fact, 100 would be a complete waste for me PERSONALLY.
 
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In fact, 100 would be a complete waste for me PERSONALLY.
I bet it wouldn't if you came off and had nothing... Your test levels would be ****.... And the 100 mg a week would put you in normal range.


250-300 is going to put you in supraphysiological levels. In other words it will be higher than what you were natty.

True hrt/trt is meant to put you in normal range. Not above normal. Do most people want 200 mg/week for trt sure it doesn't mean they need it. You're making jokes about the doctors who prescribe 125 a week Etc but those are actually the doctors who take the time to get a patient dialed into what is actually the right dose for them not just some throw it against the wall 200 mg a week will stick for everybody dose. Those are the doctors who actually know what they're doing and will adjust you up or down.
 
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I bet it wouldn't if you came off and had nothing... Your test levels would be ****.... And the 100 mg a week would put you in normal range.


250-300 is going to put you in supraphysiological levels. In other words it will be higher than what you were natty.

True hrt/trt is meant to put you in normal range. Not above normal. Do most people want 200 mg/week for trt sure it doesn't mean they need it. You're making jokes about the doctors who prescribe 125 a week Etc but those are actually the doctors who take the time to get a patient dialed into what is actually the right dose for them not just some throw it against the wall 200 mg a week will stick for everybody dose. Those are the doctors who actually know what they're doing and will adjust you up or down.
And some people get adjusted up to 250 correct?
Or nah?
 
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100mg works? I can barely feel 250 a week now
Its not about feeling it bro lol when you get older your levels decline ( also those of us who have used and abused AAS our natty levels are shot) it's about putting you back in the normal range of what you were when you were younger. You're looking for a dose to "feel something". 300 mg is probably about right for that that is a low cycle dose buddy that's not trt
 
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Its not about feeling it bro lol when you get older your levels decline ( also those of us who have used and abused AAS our natty levels are shot) it's about putting you back in the normal range of what you were when you were younger. You're looking for a dose to "feel something". 300 mg is probably about right for that that is a low cycle dose buddy that's not trt
Most people get on trt to feel something.
Better energy mood sex.
That's actually the point of trt is to feel better.
 

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