Best sarm for strength gains

[ER47]

Strength is basically my one and only concern so yeah what sarm would be best for strength gains

 

[S.Dedication]

LGD is pretty good, S4 has been giving me some strength gains. Might want to use the search feature, there is already a post on this. I think it was called “Strength Gains from SARMs” I just typed in sarms and found it.

 

[Cgkone]

S4 is a trip
Dry and strong
I'm on it now for the second time
and am blown away on the effects.
But that s23 is suppose to be even stronger.

 

[Davy25]

S4 is a trip
Dry and strong
I'm on it now for the second time
and am blown away on the effects.
But that s23 is suppose to be even stronger.

Interesting. I just cant rationalize messing with my eyesight even if it is temporary.

 

[jameschoi]

What does it do to your eyes

 

[Cgkone]

It give me a yellow tint to my vision.
Lights are bright at night
If you bump mg up slowly it hardly noticeable.
I went right to 100mg this time
Within a week.
But I don't drive or anything at night.
I get up at 330am go to bed at 6pm
I can see it being a deal breaker.
But its not that bad at all

 

[Davy25]

It give me a yellow tint to my vision.
Lights are bright at night
If you bump mg up slowly it hardly noticeable.
I went right to 100mg this time
Within a week.
But I don't drive or anything at night.
I get up at 330am go to bed at 6pm
I can see it being a deal breaker.
But its not that bad at all

Its just like the risk with GW "causing cancer".... i know its overly dramatized but for me the reward is not worth the risk when you can achieve great fat loss with osta. And great strength gains with LGD... granted S4 is a dry bulk and LGD is commonly associated with water retention and a wet bulk but still great strength gains.

 

[justhere4comm]

Strength is basically my one and only concern so yeah what sarm would be best for strength gains

What is the purpose of needing strength gains? Are you competing?
You have 2 posts, and I need a lot more information regarding your experience.

To all whom are recommending anything.
You're out of line, and should be asking some more open ended questions.

Having discussions such as "Sight" or "Cancer" where the OP has yet to disclose his knowledge level are irresponsible, and not even a part of the discussion. Just because some guy with 2 posts asks about SARMS doesn't mean the solution is SARMS.

His other question?

Hey guys new here has anyone ever taken epilean by epg . What results can I expect from epiandersterone . For pct I will be buying tudca just in case . If anyone would like to suggest another brand of epiandersterone please private message me . I'm only interested in taking epiandersterone.

He doesn't even know what a PCT is, or how to spell the product in question. He's either a troll or severely undereducated and some of you are recommending SARMS to him.

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My initial response includes:

1. A great diet
2. Plenty of rest
3. Hydration
4. A great program

Maybe some staples, and nothing else.

 

[Cgkone]

Its just like the risk with GW "causing cancer".... i know its overly dramatized but for me the reward is not worth the risk when you can achieve great fat loss with osta. And great strength gains with LGD... granted S4 is a dry bulk and LGD is commonly associated with water retention and a wet bulk but still great strength gains.

No where near ...
S4 totally smokes lgd in strength gains.
LGD can help you put on more size.
I've ran lgd 40 a couple times.
I don't even consider buying it any more.
I powerlift and am really only concerned with strength gains.
I ran back to S4 for my current hypertrophy phase.
I'm trying to get as lean as possible while continuing to keep strength up.
S4 is killer for that.
I'm on a cruise so that's another reason s4 is the choice.
I don't want liver or BP stress right now.
But S4 is light years ahead of LGD 40 in strength.

 

[Cgkone]

Its just like the risk with GW "causing cancer".... i know its overly dramatized but for me the reward is not worth the risk when you can achieve great fat loss with osta. And great strength gains with LGD... granted S4 is a dry bulk and LGD is commonly associated with water retention and a wet bulk but still great strength gains.

Oh the cancer scare has been debunked.
You would have to massively over dose GW to get near the amounts used in that test.
The only side of GW is liver.....if your liver is already jacked up

 

[nubioso]

s23 was pretty amazing for strength gains. It was a bit harsh on the liver though and I know at least one other guy was noticing it affect his hair line, but that really only happens if you're already prone to hair loss.

 

[justhere4comm]

Try something natural: Follidrone 2.o (Natural is better, and I just started this myself.)

brundel

 

[Davy25]

What is the purpose of needing strength gains? Are you competing?
You have 2 posts, and I need a lot more information regarding your experience.

To all whom are recommending anything.
You're out of line, and should be asking some more open ended questions.

Having discussions such as "Sight" or "Cancer" where the OP has yet to disclose his knowledge level are irresponsible, and not even a part of the discussion. Just because some guy with 2 posts asks about SARMS doesn't mean the solution is SARMS.

His other question?



He doesn't even know what a PCT is, or how to spell the product in question. He's either a troll or severely undereducated and some of you are recommending SARMS to him.

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My initial response includes:

1. A great diet
2. Plenty of rest
3. Hydration
4. A great program

Maybe some staples, and nothing else.

Calm down bud, he is in the anabolic section of this forum seeking advice on strength related SARMS therefore that is the input he is recieving. If he wanted natty/ diet suggestions he would post elsewhere. Given his lack of knowledge on the topic i'd argue the FIRST thing he should be aware of are the side effects.

That being said, i was unaware the abobolic to androgenic ratio of S4 was stronger than LGD. I thought Rad and LGD were the clear standouts in terms of strength... but having never run S4 i suppose i am not the one to elaborate on this.

 

[justhere4comm]

Calm down bud, he is in the anabolic section of this forum seeking advice on strength related SARMS therefore that is the input he is recieving. If he wanted natty/ diet suggestions he would post elsewhere. Given his lack of knowledge on the topic i'd argue the FIRST thing he should be aware of are the side effects.

That being said, i was unaware the abobolic to androgenic ratio of S4 was stronger than LGD. I thought Rad and LGD were the clear standouts in terms of strength... but having never run S4 i suppose i am not the one to elaborate on this.

Did you just tell me to calm down? I'm almost 53. All I can do is be calm these days. (lol).
The first thing to do is get more information about the person asking the question. Without such information as:

- Age
- Weight
- Body Fat %
- Resting Heart Rate and Blood Pressure
- Experience
- Current supplements

What we do know is:

- He has 2 posts, two questions about anabolics and does not have any idea what a PCT is, only TUDCA which is not PCT.

Anything suggested in the way of anabolics would be irresponsible. (Calmly stated).
That's my experience in educating anyone and lending supportive scientific backed information on their needs, not their wants.

Would you not rather sway someone to try natural solutions who's never tried one before or push them towards anabolics first off?

 

[Cgkone]

Try something natural: Follidrone 2.o (Natural is better, and I just started this myself.)

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Better than what?

 

[Cgkone]

What is the purpose of needing strength gains? Are you competing?
You have 2 posts, and I need a lot more information regarding your experience.

To all whom are recommending anything.
You're out of line, and should be asking some more open ended questions.

Having discussions such as "Sight" or "Cancer" where the OP has yet to disclose his knowledge level are irresponsible, and not even a part of the discussion. Just because some guy with 2 posts asks about SARMS doesn't mean the solution is SARMS.

His other question?



He doesn't even know what a PCT is, or how to spell the product in question. He's either a troll or severely undereducated and some of you are recommending SARMS to him.

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My initial response includes:

1. A great diet
2. Plenty of rest
3. Hydration
4. A great program

Maybe some staples, and nothing else.

The question was Sarms for strength......
So the answers are about Sarms a d strength.

 

[justhere4comm]

The question was Sarms for strength......
So the answers are about Sarms a d strength.

I disagree.
Why does he think he needs to get stronger?
I restate my initial question. Competition?

SARMS are a bad idea for just strength. You would have him shut down his HPTA for strength gains?
He doesn't know what a PCT is, nor does he know what a proper cycle is, and he's yet to respond to anyone in his own thread.

The OP would profit more from this: (204 pages of it)
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/270011-sarms-mk-gw.html

 

[Cgkone]

I disagree.
Why does he think he needs to get stronger?
I restate my initial question. Competition?

SARMS are a bad idea for just strength. You would have him shut down his HPTA for strength gains?
He doesn't know what a PCT is, nor does he know what a proper cycle is, and he's yet to respond to anyone in his own thread.

The OP would profit more from this: (204 pages of it)
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/270011-sarms-mk-gw.html

That's on him
I'm not his daddy
I just answered his question.
That's what this section is for.
Hell yeah I'd shutdown my HPTA for strength gains.
But I'm addicted 100%
All those choices are for him to make.
You can answer how you want
But really the way others choose to respond is up to them.

 

[justhere4comm]

You're right.
For me however, I'm going to assume the following until told otherwise.

- 21yo (Probably not)
- 25% body fat
- 280 pounds
- 5'9"
- No training experience
- No supplement knowledge

Because that is what I have to assume when they are not forthcoming with any information.
That's on me though.

I did however help the OP by linking to a 204 page article on AM that serves to educate on SARMS.

 

[Cgkone]

You're right.
For me however, I'm going to assume the following until told otherwise.

- 21yo (Probably not)
- 25% body fat
- 280 pounds
- 5'9"
- No training experience
- No supplement knowledge

Because that is what I have to assume when they are not forthcoming with any information.
That's on me though.

I did however help the OP by linking to a 204 page article on AM that serves to educate on SARMS.

Totally.
But do you have answer to his question.
Best Sarms for strength?

 

[justhere4comm]

Totally.
But do you have answer to his question.
Best Sarms for strength?

S23. There is none stronger, even S4.
YK11 isn't technically a SARM it's got a Steroid Backbone, and it acts on Myostatin and Follistatin.

There is no way the OP will understand any of this, nor should they attempt to use any of them IMHO.
I think if they are new and their receptors are clean, natural will yield some amazing results in strength and size.

Of course I have no idea of their goals. Just strength. I think that's ridiculous.

 

[gav86]

S23, also. Reminded me of winstrol. sarms are weak compared to steroids and ph's. S23 is not. It's a monster

 

[AndroRage]

S23, also. Reminded me of winstrol. sarms are weak compared to steroids and ph's. S23 is not. It's a monster

Maybe i sound stupid but what is S23? Im more into AAS as tried Osta and LGD a couple years back and was abit underwhelmed.

Havent tried S4 but hear its similar to DHT derivatives in affect? But yet to try

 

[AndroRage]

S4 is a trip
Dry and strong
I'm on it now for the second time
and am blown away on the effects.
But that s23 is suppose to be even stronger.

Hi Bro, how would you liken S4 to traditional AAS in affect? similar or alot weaker?

help greatly appreciated

 

[Cgkone]

Hi Bro, how would you liken S4 to traditional AAS in affect? similar or alot weaker?

help greatly appreciated

Pretty close
I've never ran winstrol but its suppose to feel like that.
It makes me strong and dry.
I like it a lot
Its obviously not AS strong as methylated orals but close.
Very vascular. Tight pumps. Very few sides besides vision

 

[Davy25]

Pretty close
I've never ran winstrol but its suppose to feel like that.
It makes me strong and dry.
I like it a lot
Its obviously not AS strong as methylated orals but close.
Very vascular. Tight pumps. Very few sides besides vision

S4 come with the associated vision problems or is that exclusive to s23?

 

[Cgkone]

S4 come with the associated vision problems or is that exclusive to s23?

Just S4 gives vision sided. Not S23

 

[AndroRage]

Pretty close
I've never ran winstrol but its suppose to feel like that.
It makes me strong and dry.
I like it a lot
Its obviously not AS strong as methylated orals but close.
Very vascular. Tight pumps. Very few sides besides vision

Just after something which isnt liver toxic and doesnt send bp sky high to add to test cycle.
Have you ever ran it with testosterone?

How would you recommend first cycle with S4 in terms of doseage etc?

Thanks again

 

[Cgkone]

Just after something which isnt liver toxic and doesnt send bp sky high to add to test cycle.
Have you ever ran it with testosterone?

How would you recommend first cycle with S4 in terms of doseage etc?

Thanks again

I'm on TRT and taking S4
If your going to do a blast of testosterone(350+)
But keep test low and S4 around 80mg
You could run that for 10 weeks
If you get bored bump up test.
But IMO , the test will just over shadow the S4 if your over 300mg

 

[Cgkone]

No BP . hair Loss. Prostate issues

 

[AndroRage]

I'm on TRT and taking S4
If your going to do a blast of testosterone(350+)
But keep test low and S4 around 80mg
You could run that for 10 weeks
If you get bored bump up test.
But IMO , the test will just over shadow the S4 if your over 300mg

Well its around 400mg testosterone but trying to keep it dry and reasonably clean.

was looking at winstrol but feel will try S4 instead, as bp kinda sucks with methyl orals

ill try the S4 with your commendation, im looking for good dry pump Think it will be worthwhile for the aforementioned?

whats the least amount of time you run itand long was it before you felt it 'kick' sort of speak?

Chers Bro

 

[Cgkone]

Well its around 400mg testosterone but trying to keep it dry and reasonably clean.

was looking at winstrol but feel will try S4 instead, as bp kinda sucks with methyl orals

ill try the S4 with your commendation, im looking for good dry pump Think it will be worthwhile for the aforementioned?

whats the least amount of time you run itand long was it before you felt it 'kick' sort of speak?

Chers Bro

You have to get to 60mg to really feel it
But you want to get there slow .
At least that's what I do
Start at 40mg for a week
Then go 50mg for a week
Then 60mg for a week
Then keep bumping up
You should feel something after a week but it gets good at 60+
That being said you probably will need more than one bottle
That's the one down side.
It is a little pricey to run 100mg a day.
I got a good deal BOGO and freebie.
I think you'll like the S4 it will be good with low test.

 

[AndroRage]

You have to get to 60mg to really feel it
But you want to get there slow .
At least that's what I do
Start at 40mg for a week
Then go 50mg for a week
Then 60mg for a week
Then keep bumping up
You should feel something after a week but it gets good at 60+
That being said you probably will need more than one bottle
That's the one down side.
It is a little pricey to run 100mg a day.
I got a good deal BOGO and freebie.
I think you'll like the S4 it will be good with low test.

Great info brother. whats the duration of your runs usually and whats a good cycle length? Thanks again

 

[Cgkone]

10weeks