LGD 4033

[Delboss731]

What's everyone favorite cycle protocol? Duration, dosage, on cycle support, pct, ect. GO!

 

[K3flex]

What's everyone favorite cycle protocol? Duration, dosage, on cycle support, pct, ect. GO!

In for the info

 

[Kolorado]

60 days.
10mg/ 1ML perday.
Shouldn’t have to take on cycle support since sarms are non-liver/kidney toxic but it never hurts to use them.

Suppression is slight. Mini pct to be taken

 

[Delboss731]

What do you like for your pct after a 60 day lgd run?

 

[Kolorado]

I’m doing 1ML of LGD a day for 60 days
Along with RAD at 2ML a day.

Mini PCT then MK677

 

[Kolorado]

Dude honestly the suppression with sarms SHOULD be practically nothing. I have used LGD for 60 days. Took a pct for 2 weeks then jumped on MK677. I used some “generic” test booster **** from anabolic warfare.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

I’m doing 1ML of LGD a day for 60 days
Along with RAD at 2ML a day.

Mini PCT then MK677

What is a 'mini pct' ?

 

[Kolorado]

What is a 'mini pct' ?

A 2 week pct rather than 30 day

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Dude honestly the suppression with sarms SHOULD be practically nothing. I have used LGD for 60 days. Took a pct for 2 weeks then jumped on MK677. I used some “generic” test booster **** from anabolic warfare.

A 2 week pct rather than 30 day

LOL I think you should go back to evolutionary fairy forum....

 

[SFreed]

What is a 'mini pct' ?

I'm guessing, not an actual PCT??

 

[Delboss731]

I'm glad you have good experiences running them. Suppression is also person dependent. Do you know what the supplement profile was on your pct. Like ingredients?

 

[Kolorado]

LOL I think you should go back to evolutionary fairy forum....

If you’re taking legit sarms that don’t effect your hormones then why need a 30 day pct?

Like why take clomid or nolva?

 

[hairygrandpa]

2-3 month. 10-15mg/d with a test base (Trest/4-ad/Test), to curb lethargy. Lethargy can be a biatch with LGD, joint pain reported in some users too.
Ancillaries: Nac 1.2gr/d (saw bloods from members with elevated liver enzymes while on LGD), Cardarine at 20mg/d (counteracts cholesterol sides of LGD)
BP meds on hand, preferred: Telmisartan: ups metabolism, ups insulin sensitivity, lowers "bad cholesterol", ups lypolisis (fat burning)
AI on hand, like exemestane/adex.

Currently on LGD cycle:
6mg/day (down from 12.5mg due to lethargy, besides test base)
400mg test-u/w

PCT: Clomid/Nolva or both for 4 weeks

 

[Delboss731]

Wow impressive. Assuming one can deal with the lethargy and not use a test base do you think the same cycle will be fine? Meaning everything you said just no test base included.

 

[Kolorado]

I'm glad you have good experiences running them. Suppression is also person dependent. Do you know what the supplement profile was on your pct. Like ingredients?

I don’t man. I keep an AI on hand. And I use “regular” PCT types. Not to worried about suppression with sarms.

Which isn’t the best answer. And not the safest route. But I’ve been fine this past 2 cycles now.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Wow impressive. Assuming one can deal with the lethargy and not use a test base do you think the same cycle will be fine? Meaning everything you said just no test base included.

I wouldn't. Everyone responds differently. Problem is, when lethargy strikes and you have no test base on hand, you have to either: fight through with stims -or whatnot, or abandon the cycle before you see any progress.
LGD should be treated as it would be any other steroid. It's suppressive and has sides.
I did an LGD cycle before, tolerated up to 18mg/day. Now I ran into trouble with lethargy, one never knows.

 

[Delboss731]

From all the information on them I have seen they are all suppressive to an extent. Everybody reacts different to each compound. Bloodwork would be the main truth teller but a lot of us just go off how we feel. Reguardless I believe at most a natural test booster should be ran for pct. Maybe even a serm for most. Just my 2 cents.

 

[hairygrandpa]

I don’t man. I keep an AI on hand. And I use “regular” PCT types. Not to worried about suppression with sarms.

Can you read, bro?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22459616

Abstract:

LGD-4033 administration was associated with dose-dependent suppression of total testosterone, sex hormone-binding globulin, high density lipoprotein cholesterol, and triglyceride levels. follicle-stimulating hormone and free testosterone showed significant suppression at 1.0-mg dose only.

significant suppression at 1.0-mg dose

 

[K3flex]

Took 10 mg a day for 60 days, no cycle support but didn't really experience lathargy. I didn't PCT and I have gyno from it.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Took 10 mg a day for 60 days, no cycle support but didn't really experience lathargy. I didn't PCT and I have gyno from it.

Do a short PCT then follow Raloxifene protocol. A Nolva (Tamox) PCT could be enough to reverse/shrink gyno, if not, follow with Ralox as described by me here:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/299102-help-testosterone-support.html

 

[SwoleNation]

Do a short PCT then follow Raloxifene protocol. A Nolva (Tamox) PCT could be enough to reverse/shrink gyno, if not, follow with Ralox as described by me here:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/299102-help-testosterone-support.html

hairygrandpa dropping some knowledge in this thread... Good stuff, very insightful posts. Thanks.

 

[Davy25]

2-3 month. 10-15mg/d with a test base (Trest/4-ad/Test), to curb lethargy. Lethargy can be a biatch with LGD, joint pain reported in some users too.
Ancillaries: Nac 1.2gr/d (saw bloods from members with elevated liver enzymes while on LGD), Cardarine at 20mg/d (counteracts cholesterol sides of LGD)
BP meds on hand, preferred: Telmisartan: ups metabolism, ups insulin sensitivity, lowers "bad cholesterol", ups lypolisis (fat burning)
AI on hand, like exemestane/adex.

Currently on LGD cycle:
6mg/day (down from 12.5mg due to lethargy, besides test base)
400mg test-u/w

PCT: Clomid/Nolva or both for 4 weeks

Arnt you only supposed to take 4-andro for 4 weeks.. or epi/ 1 andro for that matter?

Given this, wouldnt you have to shorten your LGD to 4 weeks as well as you could only run your test base for a short period of time? Is it best to only start taking your test base like 3 weeks in or something?

 

[SFreed]

Arnt you only supposed to take 4-andro for 4 weeks.. or epi/ 1 andro for that matter?

Given this, wouldnt you have to shorten your LGD to 4 weeks as well as you could only run your test base for a short period of time? Is it best to only start taking your test base like 3 weeks in or something?

Negative. Most Andros are best ran for 8 weeks.

 

[Davy25]

Negative. Most Andros are best ran for 8 weeks.

Good to know

 

[user567]

10 weeks at 10mg. Takes my test from around 700 to 150 give or take

 

[user567]

I don’t man. I keep an AI on hand. And I use “regular” PCT types. Not to worried about suppression with sarms.

Which isn’t the best answer. And not the safest route. But I’ve been fine this past 2 cycles now.

And what did your blood work show? Or did you just "feel" fine?