Creating the best PH cycle with current stash

  1. Creating the best PH cycle with current stash


    So I'm planning my cycle which will hopefully be starting in the near future. I would like to use items which are already in my stash so any advice or input on what/how you experienced gentlemen and ladyboyz would run these compounds is appreciated.

    Current stats:
    31 y/o - 6'00" - 186lbs - unknown bf% (maybe 12-14)

    Goal:
    +10lbs muscle after PCT

    Stash:
    TD trest
    Cyclo 4AD
    Halodrol
    M1A
    Msten
    Tbol (probably will not use, legality/detection time)

    I'm leaning toward 8 weeks low dose TD trest with 4 week M1A kicker. (Then I have cyclo 4ad/halodrol for future cycle.

    I would appreciate any and all comments and feedback. Thanks guys!


  2. Td trest with m1a or msten would both make a killer bulking cycle imo.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicGuru View Post
    Td trest with m1a or msten would both make a killer bulking cycle imo.
    I agree, I've done both. That TD can cause major estrogen issues, so make sure you use a pharma grade AI.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicGuru View Post
    Td trest with m1a or msten would both make a killer bulking cycle imo.
    Awesome, thanks brother this is sounding pretty good.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Gridles View Post
    I agree, I've done both. That TD can cause major estrogen issues, so make sure you use a pharma grade AI.
    Awesome, I have exem on hand so I'm prepared for that. How were your results from those two cycles?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicGuru View Post
    Td trest with m1a or msten would both make a killer bulking cycle imo.
    Also, do you think 50mg TD trest will suffice for that cycle? I'd like to keep dose on the lower end as long as gains come.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by JahCure View Post
    Also, do you think 50mg TD trest will suffice for that cycle? I'd like to keep dose on the lower end as long as gains come.
    50 is perfect.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by JahCure View Post
    Awesome, I have exem on hand so I'm prepared for that. How were your results from those two cycles?
    Great gains - both size and strength with both. Used otc AI on first one and got bloated AF. Didn't run proper pharma grade PCT on either so lost everything but it was a good run...if only I knew what I knew now. Looking forward to hearing how it goes for you.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by JahCure View Post
    Also, do you think 50mg TD trest will suffice for that cycle? I'd like to keep dose on the lower end as long as gains come.
    Probably, but I cant say for sure since I havenít used it myself

  10. I'm currently running halo. Imo 100mg is the sweet spot not too many sides and everything I've put on has been lean. Granted it's only about 7 or 8 lbs but I've still got a week left and it's really addictive after about 2 weeks in

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Apsmith4992 View Post
    I'm currently running halo. Imo 100mg is the sweet spot not too many sides and everything I've put on has been lean. Granted it's only about 7 or 8 lbs but I've still got a week left and it's really addictive after about 2 weeks in
    Nice, I've had good results with halo many years ago (old hdrol). Are you running it solo?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by JahCure View Post
    Nice, I've had good results with halo many years ago (old hdrol). Are you running it solo?
    4dhea as a base but I'm not impressed with it's ability to counteract some of the sides

  13. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicGuru View Post
    Td trest with m1a or msten would both make a killer bulking cycle imo.
    What about oral Trest from PRE stacked similarly?

    My pet ectodragon did PCT prior and now just finished a short recomp for 2 weeks with dien-diol and sr9009... but ready to rock 7 alpha ace research next.

    But its good to combine that with another strong methyl PH? Like S-drol or DMZ (or M-Sten)? Heck i have left over M1A without a good research purpose yet, too.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by PoSiTiVeFLoW View Post
    What about oral Trest from PRE stacked similarly?

    My pet ectodragon did PCT prior and now just finished a short recomp for 2 weeks with dien-diol and sr9009... but ready to rock 7 alpha ace research next.

    But its good to combine that with another strong methyl PH? Like S-drol or DMZ (or M-Sten)? Heck i have left over M1A without a good research purpose yet, too.
    Topical would be better from what Iíve heard, since it has a longer half life. Stacking it with other methyls shouldnít be too much of an issue since itís a 7a-methyl.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by PoSiTiVeFLoW View Post
    What about oral Trest from PRE stacked similarly?

    My pet ectodragon did PCT prior and now just finished a short recomp for 2 weeks with dien-diol and sr9009... but ready to rock 7 alpha ace research next.

    But its good to combine that with another strong methyl PH? Like S-drol or DMZ (or M-Sten)? Heck i have left over M1A without a good research purpose yet, too.
    They half life on the oral makes it more of a PWO in my opinion. Unless you want to be popping pills all day.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Gridles View Post
    They half life on the oral makes it more of a PWO in my opinion. Unless you want to be popping pills all day.
    Ahh i see, so liquid Ment as a pre workout... and other longer half life PH as daily?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by PoSiTiVeFLoW View Post
    Ahh i see, so liquid Ment as a pre workout... and other longer half life PH as daily?
    Ive discussed this with the PRE rep and per our conversation the liquid can be used as a test base for research but I would keep dosing around 50mg a day at most and split doses up so you are dosing at least 3 or 4 times a day for best results. Trest has a very short half life via oral administration.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by PoSiTiVeFLoW View Post
    What about oral Trest from PRE stacked similarly?

    My pet ectodragon did PCT prior and now just finished a short recomp for 2 weeks with dien-diol and sr9009... but ready to rock 7 alpha ace research next.

    But its good to combine that with another strong methyl PH? Like S-drol or DMZ (or M-Sten)? Heck i have left over M1A without a good research purpose yet, too.
    You could run oral trest with topical; a lot of people actually do this. They will just use the oral as a preworkout in a sense.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicGuru View Post
    You could run oral trest with topical; a lot of people actually do this. They will just use the oral as a preworkout in a sense.
    Are you suggesting running oral trest with TD trest in place of the M1A? That would then defeat the purpose of comprising a cycle with my current stash but I appreciate the input.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by JahCure View Post
    Are you suggesting running oral trest with TD trest in place of the M1A? That would then defeat the purpose of comprising a cycle with my current stash but I appreciate the input.
    No no no. I was saying that on top of the topical trest and m1a, you could add some oral trest as a pwo boost

  21. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicGuru View Post
    No no no. I was saying that on top of the topical trest and m1a, you could add some oral trest as a pwo boost
    Lol ohhh gotcha! Damn sounds like a lot for my first trest run! I'm excited though it seems many people are loving the compound

  22. Quote Originally Posted by JahCure View Post
    Lol ohhh gotcha! Damn sounds like a lot for my first trest run! I'm excited though it seems many people are loving the compound
    Itís optional
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